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Old 06-27-2025, 06:58 AM   #1921
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And by twitter accounts, they're hiring glue gun. So whatever they do, it won't work lmao.
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We don’t really know what Dallas is doing guys.
We know that they didn’t make it to where they want to be.
We know they have significant interest in Rasmus
We know that they covet him
We know Robertson their leading scorer could be on the move
I wouldn’t rule anything out with Dallas… they’re changing the team to try and push them over the edge to get to a cup final..
I’d argue anything’s on the table for the right price.
Anderson 50% retained for

Robertson
Mavrik Bourque (sweetener to offset the cap dump of Robertson )
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Old 06-27-2025, 07:08 AM   #1923
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love Robertson. Not sure another LW is what we need though.
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Old 06-27-2025, 07:10 AM   #1924
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You’re massively underrating Wyatt Johnston
No I'm not. He isn't Connor McDavid. That is a stupidly large return for a current 70 point C.
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love Robertson. Not sure another LW is what we need though.
He’s also not particularly fast.
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love Robertson. Not sure another LW is what we need though.
Problem no one is talking about is all of them look at the depth chart. Huby probably not going anywhere Coleman another three years, Farabee locked for years. Zary? Where does he play?

We bring in another left wing long term our prospects are going to look at the numbers and want out. That problem is probably two year’s away but it will be a problem. If it costs a Battaglia or I Dar Suniev! ( although I would hate that) to trade into the top ten and get a Center i say you do it.
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Old 06-27-2025, 07:27 AM   #1927
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Looking at the Chycryn trade couple of years ago, he returned a 1st and 2 x 2nds. That's a good comparable what people should be expecting.
Chychrun was 24 years old with 2 years left on his deal though. I'd love that return for Andersson but not sure it's coming. Even a 1st and 2nd is good though.
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Old 06-27-2025, 07:31 AM   #1928
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Would only trade for Robertson if it was to flip him to another team to get a pick in the top 7 of the draft. Would get the flames within range of moving up to get Frondell or Misa.
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No I'm not. He isn't Connor McDavid. That is a stupidly large return for a current 70 point C.
If Wyatt Johnston was a Flame, would you consider trading him for a 29 year old top 4 D, a 33 year old winger and two late firsts? You’d laugh at that offer.

Sure, call him a 70 point C, conveniently leave out the fact that he’s 22 and in the mix to make our Olympic team
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Flames should stay away from Robertson. I don't think he's the type of player you build around. Him and Huberdeau as your top players is not a recipe for playoff success. That's a path that leads right back to underachieving. Acquisition cost plus he's going to need a big contract. He's not worth the price in assets and dollars.
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You are massively overrating Wyatt Johnston.
No I’m not. If he was a Flame, he’d be our most untouchable player
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Would only trade for Robertson if it was to flip him to another team to get a pick in the top 7 of the draft. Would get the flames within range of moving up to get Frondell or Misa.
7 you could walk out with Obrien?
I think Obrien is a little underrated in this draft. High end vision and passing. Good frame, good skater, can take over an offensive zone. Big fan.
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Old 06-27-2025, 07:39 AM   #1933
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Dallas really pushing hard on Andersson. I wonder with their cap issues and if Andersson is willing to sign a long term extension there after next year what the Flames would have to add to Andersson to pry Johnston out of there. RS C and 22. On pace to become a #1 C and makes $8M a year. Assuming Parekh and Wolf are untouchables what else does it take?
lol typical internet proposal

Give me your best proven soon to be 1C for my struggling soon to be departed D and something but not my top prospects
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7 you could walk out with Obrien?
I think Obrien is a little underrated in this draft. High end vision and passing. Good frame, good skater, can take over an offensive zone. Big fan.
I would be happy with Obrien for sure. But Misa is the dream scenario. If the flames somehow got to 7th/8th overall after giving up say Andersson (50% retained) + Posposil + 32nd overall, I would then look to trade 18th overall + 7th/8th overall + Mews + Gridin/Battaglia to get to 2nd/3rd overall.

Moot point because these kind of trades never seem to happen but here’s hoping this is a different kind of draft.
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Flames should stay away from Robertson. I don't think he's the type of player you build around. Him and Huberdeau as your top players is not a recipe for playoff success. That's a path that leads right back to underachieving. Acquisition cost plus he's going to need a big contract. He's not worth the price in assets and dollars.
Have to get the best asset for andersson. If it is a top line winger who is only 2 years older than Zary, you do it. Might force us to play Zary at C if there is no other upgrade available at that position. Maybe Zary is the answer at C. If acquiring Robertson helps to expedite this experiment, that’s not a bad thing.
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Old 06-27-2025, 07:48 AM   #1936
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Wyatt Johnston is not being traded for 4 random pieces off the scrap heap lmao
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Old 06-27-2025, 07:48 AM   #1937
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I would be happy with Obrien for sure. But Misa is the dream scenario. If the flames somehow got to 7th/8th overall after giving up say Andersson (50% retained) + Posposil + 32nd overall, I would then look to trade 18th overall + 7th/8th overall + Mews + Gridin/Battaglia to get to 2nd/3rd overall.

Moot point because these kind of trades never seem to happen but here’s hoping this is a different kind of draft.
Wouldn’t do that myself.
Happily walk out if the draft with Obrien, Cootes, Zonnon in the first round.

Personally dont see a lot of difference in the top end centers including misa.
All things being equal would i take Misa? Yes. However the cost is too much, the difference too little in my opinion and we need more than one center.

I think Zonnon is really underrated and wouldnt be aghast if they took him at 18.
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Here are a few PP percentages from last year:

EDM: 23.7%
FLA: 23.5%
WSH: 23.5% (that Ovechkin dude)
VAN: 22.5%
DAL: 22.0%
CGY: 21%

So what exactly do we think a 19 year old Parekh is going to do to those stats? Do we think the Flames are suddenly going to have a better PP than EDM and FLA and the rest of these teams? Can we reasonably expect that it would suddenly be better than VAN's (with Hughes)?

Hockey is a team game. And one player just doesn't change the standings much. Especially a 19 year old player
Not to mention what that boils down to.

Flames improve their powerplay by a whole percentage point with Parekh manning the point ... great news. Equals 2.2 goals on the season.

Missing the minute munching, tough situations, 5 on 5 guy has a greater impact than that.
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Wouldn’t do that myself.
Happily walk out if the draft with Obrien, Cootes, Zonnon in the first round.

Personally dont see a lot of difference in the top end centers including misa.
All things being equal would i take Misa? Yes. However the cost is too much, the difference too little in my opinion and we need more than one center.

I think Zonnon is really underrated and wouldnt be aghast if they took him at 18.
If we can land O'Brien, no way I trade a ton to move up any further. He could be the best center in this draft. Why pay a ton more? Just draft him if you can land the pick needed to take him.
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Old 06-27-2025, 07:53 AM   #1940
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If we can land O'Brien, no way I trade a ton to move up any further. He could be the best center in this draft. Why pay a ton more? Just draft him if you can land the pick needed to take him.
I think O'Brien has a chance of being a 2nd line centre in the NHL
I think Misa has a chance of being a 1st line centre

That's the gap in my view. It's not small.
(But I'd be thrilled w/ either of them)
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