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Old 06-26-2025, 12:04 PM   #1621
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Why is a TOFAN here? Go to Toronto puck and share how much you love Treliving.
lol. Okay.

What was that trade you suggested? Adam Fantili for Andersson, Frost, 18OA, 32OA? That’s ridiculous. Would you trade one of the Flames top young players, Wolf or Parekh, for a 29 year old pending UFA, a mid and late first round pick in a widely considered thin draft, and a guy who looks to top out as a 3C, maybe?that’s not much more than a collection of ‘stuff’ for a franchise center. Good luck with that. If the Flames wanted Fantili the conversation starts with Parekh or Wolf and you start adding from there.

The same day, you then go on to, essentially, call Adams an idiot for the trade he made yesterday in one of your, what?, 40-50 posts yesterday. Oh, and on another related note proceeded to suggest there are several other GM’s who are idiots.

Cool, man.

If you’re going to unload both barrels on hockey executives around the league, you should probably demonstrate a higher level of awareness when suggesting trade proposals that no GM, regardless of how stupid you like to believe they are, would accept.
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Old 06-26-2025, 12:05 PM   #1622
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Update(kinda?)

Very busy, full house and all hands on deck from Coaching staff through to analytics and trainers.
May be one of the most unique drafts in that they've got people a part of the process that would typically never be present. Heavy into projecting these players long term, they feel there's not a single player that's ready to play in the NHL next year which is not the norm.
Again, high ceiling players as a priority. Skill & Speed a focus.

Flames remain very active, lots of interest in a number of their players.
Question remains what does Craig want to do?
How far does he want to tear this down?
Rasmus clearly the #1 target across the league, my source is still very confident he's moved as both sides have agreed this would be best.
I will echo what Sec said, both sides do have a great relationship and no hard feelings much like Tkachuk when he left. But fact remains they are millions apart in AAV.

Calgary hard at work, working every angle.
Belief still remains that moving up is #1 priority.
Think's a run on centers early will take them out of their "main target"
Not easy to move up, could require some unique moves.
Teams do see Calgary's log jam in the forward group, who is available and at what price?
A few of Calgary's prospects have garnered interest if Calgary wants to explore that.
Wolf & Parekh untouchable, full stop.
Thanks Royal, love the info.

I'm curious why there's any uncertainty around what Craig wants to do. You'd assume a clear, foundational plan for building and changing the roster is already established—at this point, it's more about executing on opportunities that fit that direction.

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Old 06-26-2025, 12:10 PM   #1623
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I'm curious why there's any uncertainty around what Craig wants to do. You'd assume a clear, foundational plan for building and changing the roster is already established—at this point, it's more about executing on opportunities that fit that direction.
There's a bit of poker face required though too. Can't show all the cards.
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I'm curious why there's any uncertainty around what Craig wants to do. You'd assume a clear, foundational plan for building and changing the roster is already established—at this point, it's more about executing on opportunities that fit that direction.
I think he meant to express that only a small group of people actually have all of the details of the plan. Thus everyone else on the outside of that group is uncertain as to the exact details of the plan.

This is good that Conroy is keeping some of his cards close to his chest and leaving people guessing.
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lol. Okay.

What was that trade you suggested? Adam Fantili for Andersson, Frost, 18OA, 32OA? That’s ridiculous. Would you trade one of the Flames top young players, Wolf or Parekh, for a 29 year old pending UFA, a mid and late first round pick in a widely considered thin draft, and a guy who looks to top out as a 3C, maybe?that’s not much more than a collection of ‘stuff’ for a franchise center. Good luck with that. If the Flames wanted Fantili the conversation starts with Parekh or Wolf and you start adding from there.

The same day, you then go on to, essentially, call Adams an idiot for the trade he made yesterday in one of your, what?, 40-50 posts yesterday. Oh, and on another related note proceeded to suggest there are several other GM’s who are idiots.

Cool, man.

If you’re going to unload both barrels on hockey executives around the league, you should probably demonstrate a higher level of awareness when suggesting trade proposals that no GM, regardless of how stupid you like to believe they are, would accept.
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lol. Okay.

What was that trade you suggested? Adam Fantili for Andersson, Frost, 18OA, 32OA? That’s ridiculous. Would you trade one of the Flames top young players, Wolf or Parekh, for a 29 year old pending UFA, a mid and late first round pick in a widely considered thin draft, and a guy who looks to top out as a 3C, maybe?that’s not much more than a collection of ‘stuff’ for a franchise center. Good luck with that. If the Flames wanted Fantili the conversation starts with Parekh or Wolf and you start adding from there.

The same day, you then go on to, essentially, call Adams an idiot for the trade he made yesterday in one of your, what?, 40-50 posts yesterday. Oh, and on another related note proceeded to suggest there are several other GM’s who are idiots.

Cool, man.

If you’re going to unload both barrels on hockey executives around the league, you should probably demonstrate a higher level of awareness when suggesting trade proposals that no GM, regardless of how stupid you like to believe they are, would accept.
Not everything is so serious. Go touch grass, and come back when your ears perk up when someone rags on Treliving.

Just like you chimed in on Boston not moving 7 when the posts right above yours said the opposite that they may want now players.
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Not everything is so serious. Go touch grass, and come back when your ears perk up when someone rags on Treliving.

Just like you chimed in on Boston not moving 7 when the posts right above yours said the opposite that they may want now players.
Telling someone to go 'touch grass' is always a strong indication that you yourself, do not often touch grass.
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If only the people that have these unhealthy vendetta's against other posters would realize how little the rest of us care ...
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Can Barzal or Dobson secure the Islanders the number 4 pick? Sounds like the Islanders would like to try and secure Hagens so I wonder if he is there at 4 if a Barzal for pick 4 trade would work?
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Florida with yet another smart move by the looks of it.

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Old 06-26-2025, 12:36 PM   #1633
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They had one of the oldest teams. This vet stuff is nonsense.
James Neal was a vet
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Coleman is a vet

Which one would you rather have teaching your up and comer?

It is not just age, but attitude and compete level of said vets
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Average age only matters if your team is not competing at the highest level.

Last year Florida was 5th oldest (29.32), and Edmonton was 1st( 30.13).
Dallas Carolina were 12th and 11th ( over 28.8).

Only 4 teams in the bottom half of the NHL even made the playoffs, and non of those teams made it into the second round.


Being an older team is fine if you're a top team. The only reason being younger is better, is that it gives you a chance to grow for the future. the Flames circumstance now it is good to get younger, but that should not always be the goal.

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Thanks Royal, love the info.

I'm curious why there's any uncertainty around what Craig wants to do. You'd assume a clear, foundational plan for building and changing the roster is already established—at this point, it's more about executing on opportunities that fit that direction.
Seems to me that this is actually the sticking point (Conroy's long term plan). If they are millions apart in AAV I would assume it's because of the contract term.

Short term I can see them paying him high $$ because we have the space, but long term he likely doesn't fit their projected budget allocations above a certain number. Any player in his position should want max $$ and max term, which doesn't make sense for the Flames long term if we have young guys like Wolf or Parekh that are going to get paid. Last thing I want to do is tie up space on a 36yr old Andersson with potential superstars looking for raises in 7 years.

So trade the asset now while you can and fill the spot with someone whose AAV number fits the long term plan.
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Seems to me that this is actually the sticking point (Conroy's long term plan). If they are millions apart in AAV I would assume it's because of the contract term.

Short term I can see them paying him high $$ because we have the space, but long term he likely doesn't fit their projected budget allocations above a certain number. Any player in his position should want max $$ and max term, which doesn't make sense for the Flames long term if we have young guys like Wolf or Parekh that are going to get paid. Last thing I want to do is tie up space on a 36yr old Andersson with potential superstars looking for raises in 7 years.

So trade the asset now while you can and fill the spot with someone whose AAV number fits the long term plan.

I suspect that it is also tying up roster spots. They would be okay with Andersson here but it probably has to be a good price and term. So, they are not upset if he ends up being a 2nd or 3rd pair in a few years.
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Can Barzal or Dobson secure the Islanders the number 4 pick? Sounds like the Islanders would like to try and secure Hagens so I wonder if he is there at 4 if a Barzal for pick 4 trade would work?
I mean, can any trade for a top 5 pick work without including one of Wolf or Parekh? ...

The Islanders are in a weird spot. Is this just a dip? Retool? Something more? Barzal has a 22 team NTL, would he waive for Utah? Also, how big of a hole does trading Barzal put in their lineup if this is meant to be just a dip? I don't think moving Barzal makes sense.

Their D group is overflowing and they are about to add Schaefer to the mix. Moving Dobson is not ideal because he plays RD and their other good young guys are LD. It would work better to sign Dobson and trade Romanov so that you can end up with Schaefer-Dobson as your future top pair to replace Pulock and Pelech.

But if you can't keep Dobson, flipping him into Hagens would be pretty awesome and Utah could certainly use a #1RD to shore up their right side and start competing for the playoffs.
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I don't see a ton of big moves happening for the Flames. Maybe I'll be wrong though.

I know there are lots of gifs and information on this site from some people. And I have no doubt Conroy is taking tons of calls. But so is every other GM.

I feel like any GM who's phone wasn't busy at this time of the year wouldn't be doing their job properly anyway. Hope to be wrong and that there are lots of big trades though!
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I dunno about you guys but my favourite thing to do is come into a thread looking for trade info and read two dip####s constantly going at each other.
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