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		|  06-26-2025, 08:15 AM | #1521 |  
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					Originally Posted by Royle9  My mother goes in for cancer surgery this morning, so I won’t be as available as normal.I do have a few messages to go through and I’ll recap those ASAP.
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		|  06-26-2025, 08:26 AM | #1522 |  
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			Best wishes Royle. 
 In a hospital waiting room right now having an impromptu E=NG session with strangers and one other CPer. Small world.
 
 Maybe you can find a group session at your facility too.
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		|  06-26-2025, 08:27 AM | #1523 |  
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					Originally Posted by Enoch Root  Rome wasn't built in a day, and you can't trade everyone all at once (you become BUF / ARI).  Weegar is needed to teach the kids how to play.  In a few years, when some of the kids emerge as leaders on the blueline, THEN you can trade Weegar.
 Patience.
 
 Andersson now.
 Backlund (if interested) at the deadline.
 Coleman over the next 12-18 months (by next deadline)
 Kadri in a year or two, if/when it makes sense
 Weegar in maybe 3 years
 Huberdeau on a similar timeline
 
 You don't disrupt the team.  You don't blow up the dressing room.  You have a natural transition and continuity, along with a steady stream of new assets over the next couple years.  And you still trade all the players for assets, you just do it in a more controlled and positive manner.
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Suspect that other players lower down on your list would eventually expedite this process by asking for a trade. Doubt they will watch the rest of their career dwindle as the Flames do a structured search for the bottom over 4-5 years. A long term plan where Weegar waits and plays on a ####ty team for the next 3-4 years to allow the Flames to get a structured tear down does not really seem to be in Weegar’s best interest.
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		|  06-26-2025, 08:29 AM | #1524 |  
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					Originally Posted by Enoch Root  Also, you don't want all your extra draft picks in one year.  Having 5 firsts in one year isn't ideal - if the Flames feed these guys out over the next 3 or 4 seasons, they could have 2 1sts per year for the next 5 years.  That would build an incredible pipeline.
 And again, it doesn't blow up the team and destroy the room.
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Yeah. It just doesn’t make sense. 
 
I think you deal with Andersson now. Coleman, Lomberg, and maybe Backlund (he can choose, chase a cup or legacy) at this years deadline. Next year, Conroy can start sniffing around on Kadri and Huberdeau. 
 
I think out of all of them, Weegar might be the guy who is here for the long haul. Hopefully over the next 2-3 drafts the Flames get some luck and get a player or two to carry the next era of Flames hockey.
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		|  06-26-2025, 08:30 AM | #1525 |  
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			The importance of having Weegar around to mentor Parekh can't be under-stated. He's the perfect guy to do that, and if he's gone, who's going to be that veteran leader on the blueline?
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		|  06-26-2025, 08:31 AM | #1526 |  
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					Originally Posted by albertGQ  Benn off the market
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		|  06-26-2025, 08:32 AM | #1527 |  
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					Originally Posted by JTech780  You know you’re an awful GM when you are giving Viktor Arvidsson a NMC. |  
He probably doesn’t sign in Edmonton without one. Or he costs significantly more.
		 
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		|  06-26-2025, 08:36 AM | #1528 |  
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					Originally Posted by albertGQ  Benn off the market
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For 1 million.
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		|  06-26-2025, 08:39 AM | #1529 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina  The importance of having Weegar around to mentor Parekh can't be under-stated. He's the perfect guy to do that, and if he's gone, who's going to be that veteran leader on the blueline? |  
Trading away Rasmus and Weegar for futures would definitely give one a sense of the greatness of Wolf because the Flames would arguably have the worst defence in the league after those trades. Top pairing of Bahl - Parekh does not exactly inspire visions of Larry Robinson and Serge Savard for next year:
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		|  06-26-2025, 08:41 AM | #1530 |  
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			We need Weegar to finish the construction of the new rink. He stays.
		 
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		|  06-26-2025, 08:42 AM | #1531 |  
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			Best wishes to you and your mum Royle
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		|  06-26-2025, 08:47 AM | #1532 |  
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			It makes sense for the Flames to move most of their veterans this summer: the next two drafts have really high end (generational?) players projected as the first overall pick.  If you’re going to suck, might as well do that this year and next year
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		|  06-26-2025, 08:59 AM | #1534 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sec214  Interesting morning as teams move into draft mode... No new updates other then I would say the flames are not putting a for sale sign on the yard and selling everything cheap to bottom out. I think IF Ras gets moved, other players will want to explore their options over the next 0-24 months. 
 Flames have a good promising foundation already started unlike Chicago who sold their base when they went full send for bedard IE. Hagel ect.
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Anything further with the Batman post yesterday?
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		|  06-26-2025, 09:01 AM | #1535 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tbull8  Anything further with the Batman post yesterday? |  
My guess: 
Batman = Bettman and they're expected to announce the framework for a new CBA tomorrow.
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		|  06-26-2025, 09:02 AM | #1536 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tbull8  Anything further with the Batman post yesterday? |    
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		|  06-26-2025, 09:03 AM | #1537 |  
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			Thanks for the update, Sec.  Certainly a bit disappointing about the 'IF' on Ras being moved.
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		|  06-26-2025, 09:06 AM | #1538 |  
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					Originally Posted by 3thirty  I'll the talk about Jason Robertson and we end up with the lesser brother again, Nicholas. |  
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		|  06-26-2025, 09:07 AM | #1539 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sec214  Interesting morning as teams move into draft mode... No new updates other then I would say the flames are not putting a for sale sign on the yard and selling everything cheap to bottom out. I think IF Ras gets moved, other players will want to explore their options over the next 0-24 months. 
 Flames have a good promising foundation already started unlike Chicago who sold their base when they went full send for bedard IE. Hagel ect.
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What do you think the odds are of Ras staying vs leaving?
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		|  06-26-2025, 09:09 AM | #1540 |  
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					Originally Posted by savardandjokinen  What do you think the odds are of Ras staying vs leaving? |  
I’m no insider but he gone. The it’s a business line is usually the sign.
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