06-25-2025, 10:22 PM
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#121
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
I'm thinking a lot of that hinges on this Summer.
Adams has to make some big moves...and Andersson may have to be a target because of this. They have to do something to keep their current roster engaged...
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I don’t think anyone thinks Andersson is the difference maker for them in one year though. I think they sunk the value on this trade to try and get players instead of futures.
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06-25-2025, 10:23 PM
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#122
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Originally Posted by Wolven
But we do need to add a #1C this summer. It is the critical path of the Flames roster, especially if the player is young and needs time to develop before they can step into the role.
Wolf changed the timeline on the "rebuild", as did Huberdeau when he started to find his groove again. The Flames have an amazing young goalie, piles of wingers (with some looking very good), middle and bottom Cs, and solid RD depth.
The primary holes in the roster are #1C and #1LD. Wasting time and assets on wingers is just going to compound the problem of having a growing talent pool in the organization that is held back by the critical missing pieces.
C or bust (and then focus on LD).
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You can’t just find a 1C.
Even if the Flames manage to trade into the top-10, if that isn’t 2nd or 3rd overall, they aren’t likely getting a player with a 1C upside.
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06-25-2025, 10:27 PM
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#123
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Seems like a cheap acquisition cost for Utah. It's a pricey shorter term deal, but the player cost is not much here.
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06-25-2025, 10:28 PM
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#124
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Location: Calgary
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The Buffalo return is underrated here I think. Scorps comp of Bahl and Battaglia seems pretty close.
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06-25-2025, 10:29 PM
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#125
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To be fair to Adams, the savoie for McLeod deal looked terrible at the time, but McLeod is a great player for them
Doan and Kesslering are bith good young players with upside.
Wonder ifis speeds up the Byram deal.
Feels like this means they're out on Rasmus
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06-25-2025, 10:30 PM
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#126
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Sure, but Doan is already a pretty good bottom-six NHLer at age 23 and I think he has all the tools to follow a Marcus Foligno trajectory. That'd be a really nice outcome for Battaglia, even if not the best possible one.
Kesselring has played top-four minutes in Utah/AZ at points over the last two seasons and done very well. His ice time decreased last year after Marino and Durzi returned from injury but his results were strong across the board.
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Yeah, this isn't as bad a deal for BUF as people are making out. Utah got the best player (which is always the case when a player forces his way out), but the Sabres filled two needs: defensive RD with size who can play in the top four; bottom six winger with some jam and upside. And they're in that same age range (25 and 23) the Flames are looking at - recently established NHLers with upside.
Benson and Kulich both slot as top-six LW, so they have internal candidates to fill Peterka's role.
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06-25-2025, 10:31 PM
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#127
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I would not be happy paying Petkara just under 8 million a season
The acquisition cost wasn’t high , but Petkara has 20-25 goal scorer who doesn’t do much else written all over him . For 8 million that’s not great . I see why Buff didn’t want to pay him
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06-25-2025, 10:33 PM
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#128
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Kesslering is good, I'd probably have him having a bit more value than Bahl.
And Doan is probabky being underrated being compared to Battaglia. 28 points in his first 62 NHL games, really good AHL numbers.
Does somebody like Zary really have substantially more value than Doan...probably not... probably similar values.
Bahl and Zary is probably a similar package from the Flames.
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06-25-2025, 10:35 PM
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#129
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Oh man. I just realized that Kesselring was originally drafted by the Oilers. They sure are no good. They’d look so much better with McLeod, Broberg, Holloway, and Kesselring.
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06-25-2025, 10:35 PM
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#130
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Those extension numbers aren't bad at all.
I think this comes back to haunt Buffalo.
Again.
Flames weren't trading Bahl.
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06-25-2025, 10:36 PM
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#131
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Originally Posted by Royle9
Those extension numbers aren't bad at all.
I think this comes back to haunt Buffalo.
Again.
Flames weren't trading Bahl.
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I still don't understand the Bahl love.
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06-25-2025, 10:39 PM
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#132
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Every player should be available in the right deal.
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06-25-2025, 10:39 PM
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#133
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I like this trade for Buffalo. They are giving up a good winger but getting back a 25 year old, 6’5”, RHS defenseman that can play top 4. I don’t think the return is nearly as bad as some think it is.
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06-25-2025, 10:41 PM
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#134
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
I still don't understand the Bahl love.
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Did you see how the Flames played without him? Guy might be a second pairing dman, but he is a solid second pairing guy.
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06-25-2025, 10:42 PM
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#135
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I do think Peterka is a lot closer to Victor Olofsson than he is to Sam Reinhart. It's a very understandable gamble for Utah but I don't think it instantly transforms them or anything.
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06-25-2025, 10:42 PM
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#136
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I like this trade for Buffalo. They are giving up a good winger but getting back a 25 year old, 6’5”, RHS defenseman that can play top 4. I don’t think the return is nearly as bad as some think it is.
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Peterka looks like a high end finisher (could regress though). That’s ultimately why I don’t love the return. Kesserling and Doan aren’t top-end at their positions, and Peterka may be/is showing signs of being that.
Just one of those trades where I feel like Buffalo detracts from the top of their roster for depth, and I think Buffalo’s biggest problem is top-end of their forward group.
Kesserling could be a dude that rounds out their top-4 though…maybe it works out perfectly. Could also be Buffalo selling at the right time before Peterka’s shooting % collapses back down.
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06-25-2025, 10:43 PM
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#137
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Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I like this trade for Buffalo. They are giving up a good winger but getting back a 25 year old, 6’5”, RHS defenseman that can play top 4. I don’t think the return is nearly as bad as some think it is.
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It's a sneaky good return IMO.
I'm a big fan of Kesselring. Big, mean, solid defensively, RH shot, and had 7 goals and 29 points last year so he's not bad offensively either.
He's a better and meaner RH version of Bahl.
Doan is pretty good too. Good AHL numbers, decent NHL numbers, and had good underlying stats for a young player.
Reminds me a bit of the Savoie/Mcleod trade last year where at first glance it looks bad but then dig deeper and Buffalo is giving up a one dimensional player for players that are much better 200 ft players.
It probably depends on if Peterka can remain an elite finisher or if this year was a bit lucky. His 5v5 shooting percentage was abnormally high, and he was very dependent on rush chances and isn't good at driving possession, so there is some risk there for sure.
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06-25-2025, 10:47 PM
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#138
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06-25-2025, 10:58 PM
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#139
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Its easy to give a comparable and say why didn't we do that...the other GM has their own opinion though and obviously likes these players.
I mean his track record isn't very good but its his player to trade. Can't just say "don't make that trade take this deal we think is even value instead" Not how it works.
If you want to make the deal you don't have to match you have to blow the other offer out of the water
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06-25-2025, 10:58 PM
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#140
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I think Honzek is probably closer value to Doan than Battaglia
And I agree with those who think the Sabres did fairly well here.
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