[News] NHL investigating whether Oilers used Kane LTIR cap relief in compliance with CBA

[getbak]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

Turek agreeing to the restructure was a super class act from that guy. For those saying Calgary wasn’t up against the cap, you’re technically correct as there was no cap at the time (the cap came in after the 2004-05 lockout, and Turek restructured the summer before the lockout), but Calgary had a budget and there was the expectation from owners that the NHL was going to draw a hardline and negotiate a cap under the next labour agreement, which teams would need to manage.

The discussion was about the summer of 2005 after the lockout. Turek still had two seasons left on his contract at the time but chose to retire instead.

MegaErtz suggested that the Flames paid him off under the table in order to do that, but they didn't need to because they had the option of giving him a compliance buyout which wouldn't have counted against the cap.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

Interesting… site posted salaries in March, 2006, year after the lockout. Keith Tkachuk was the fourth highest paid player.

http://www.hockeynut.com/0506/salaries0506.html

Calgary looks to be roughly against the cap, but I think this would have been close to the trade deadline so there were players that joined snd were traded through the year.

Look at those salaries it certainly doesn't appear so.

[Eubee]

Originally Posted by MegaErtz

You're incorrect. Turek had one year left on his deal that would have covered the season after the lockout, which was 2005-06. We were up against the salary cap, which had just come into effect that summer. You're honestly telling me you don't think he collected any money from the Flames for retiring and saving them two million dollars against a 39 million salary cap?

See that Kane is done
Lie - ing there in your stun
Entitlement again never won
So run, run away

Whooo!!

Edit: This multi-tiered power ballad was written and produced in loving memory of Kevin Lowe

Original copies of this single can be obtained by sending knee pads (preferably new, but used will work) to the attention of Ron Maclean, c/o Rodgers Sportsnet.

[Reggie Dunlop]

I fervently hope Edmonton is punished, and punished severely.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

I fervently hope Edmonton is punished, and punished severely.

They should have to keep Kane on the team for an extra year! I can't think of a worse punishment than that.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

They should have to keep Kane on the team for an extra year! I can't think of a worse punishment than that.

Because they used Kane to abuse cap space once already, the league should penalize the Oilers the savings they got the past several years because of his settlement with the Sharks. Something like $2.5M per year, multiplied by the number of years they had cap circumvention in place, so 3 or 4 for a total cap penalty of $7.5 or $10M next season. Burn McDavid's last year as an Oiler to the ground.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Groot

Because they used Kane to abuse cap space once already, the league should penalize the Oilers the savings they got the past several years because of his settlement with the Sharks. Something like $2.5M per year, multiplied by the number of years they had cap circumvention in place, so 3 or 4 for a total cap penalty of $7.5 or $10M next season. Burn McDavid's last year as an Oiler to the ground.

Like this. Won’t happen of course but the punishment should be severe. Have to start cracking down on this and if there is evidence to prove it then it’s a good opportunity to make an example of a team.

If not cap punishment, take away a first round pick or two.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Groot

Because they used Kane to abuse cap space once already, the league should penalize the Oilers the savings they got the past several years because of his settlement with the Sharks. Something like $2.5M per year, multiplied by the number of years they had cap circumvention in place, so 3 or 4 for a total cap penalty of $7.5 or $10M next season. Burn McDavid's last year as an Oiler to the ground.

Plus the shenanigans with Smith and Keith and again, multiple times with Kane and the delayed surgery nonsense.

Its not "woe is Oilers! Why all bad things be done unto them!!"

They've gotten away with a lot already. They NHL gave an inch and the Oil took a mile. Thats when you get your hands slapped.

[Samonadreau]

Funniest part is the oilers fans i know bitched about Vegas and Tampa cheating the cap.

[indes]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Funniest part is the oilers fans i know bitched about Vegas and Tampa cheating the cap.

They're bitching about Florida doing it too lol.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Funniest part is the oilers fans i know bitched about Vegas and Tampa cheating the cap.

The funniest part is the Oilers cheating the cap and losing anyways.

[EVERLAST]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

The funniest part is the Oilers cheating the cap and losing always.

FyP

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Locke

Plus the shenanigans with Smith and Keith and again, multiple times with Kane and the delayed surgery nonsense.

Its not "woe is Oilers! Why all bad things be done unto them!!"

They've gotten away with a lot already. They NHL gave an inch and the Oil took a mile. Thats when you get your hands slapped.

The Keith one was the worst. As I recall he retired a year early and was immediately given a job with the Oilers and I think he got to live in Kelowna. Not sure there was any info shared about him leaving the organization, but one could assume it was a short term gig. Just clear as day paying a player.

I could fully see the NHL giving them a warning about pushing things, and then they do it again.

Again, if they won would this even be news? They would take a penalty and celebrate for the next 30 years.

[wired]

There needs to be a change in the rules. Maybe saying that any player who is not on the active roster during the regular season, is ineligible to play in the playoffs. Being on the farm team would count as active roster.
This, would effectively end the use of LTIR to skirt the cap issues.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by wired

There needs to be a change in the rules. Maybe saying that any player who is not on the active roster during the regular season, is ineligible to play in the playoffs. Being on the farm team would count as active roster.
This, would effectively end the use of LTIR to skirt the cap issues.

Friedman has speculated it could be something like that in the playoffs you can have an expanded roster that exceeds the cap, but what you actually put on the ice has to be cap compliant.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

The funniest part is the Oilers cheating the cap and losing anyways.

And Edmonton fans whining about Tampa and Vegas cheating for years ... then have to go quiet when it appears Edmonton is doing it as well ... and then getting investigated!

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Friedman has speculated it could be something like that in the playoffs you can have an expanded roster that exceeds the cap, but what you actually put on the ice has to be cap compliant.

How would the NHL expand an already unlimited roster in the playoffs? (not criticizing you, just Friedman's take). I've said it before, a cap-compliant playoff roster rule would penalize/hamstring teams that legitimately accrue cap throughout the season.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Ok Kane, Edmonton just traded you away and no longer sign your cheques. Speak up about them hiding you on LTIR now.

[sureLoss]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1937994705733881876

[Toonage]

Cowards.