[News] Oilers lose AGAIN! The Florida Panthers have won the 2025 Stanley Cup

[iloveicedhockey]

I've never heard Bob Stauffer called one of the top NHL insiders before.

I remember Frank doing a lot of the legwork when Draisaitl wasn't re-signed yet. I think he was saying he'd sign for 2M less than he ultimately did.

[Vinny01]

Lebruns article on the Athletic yesterday is hinting at some superstars not going 8 years and guys like Marner or McDavid signing 2-4 year deals to chase a bigger cap number (and have flexibility) when the cap continues to increase

Friedman also hinted at that on 32 thoughts. If Edmonton does re-sign McDavid it might only be a 2 year deal

[SuperMatt18]

It also gives McDavid the benefit of not leaving a cup finalist.

You just know if he leaves now the narrative is "he said he wanted to win but he left the team that lost in the finals twice"

Spector already wrote that article stating that the Oilers give McDavid the best chance to win, ignoring that no matter what team McDavid is on they instantly become a contender.

Like if you put McDavid on San Jose next year and replaced him with nobody on Edmonton then I'd bet that the Sharks finish ahead of the Oilers next year.

[Vinny01]

As the arguement that the Oilers give McDavid the best chance to win were dealt significant blows when the Blues successfully acquired Broberg and Holloway via offer sheets. These players were 2 of the only Oilers who had the ability to pop and their money was given to Skinner and Arvidsson who took turns in the press box.

Edmonton has Draisaitl, Bouchard and a bunch of aging vets with no picks and prospects coming. Savoie better pan out for them

[McG]

Mavi must be extremely envious of teams that win by committee; everyone helping out for the common cause.

The Oilers as constructed are not that team. From the ice time for 2 players to the focus on having less roster players, everyone else is there for the glitter twins.

I’m not sure that the fawning media and fans or even the egos of the Oilers and the players themselves would allow for a decrease in ice time and a sharing of responsibilities.

One thing that the oilers keep doing is, the more important the game, the sooner the glitter twins play together and double shift. Florida was ready, and more than any other team was able to roll 3 lines versus the Mavi/pissy double shift. Why 3 lines? Because even Mavi and pissy need a rest, and the 3rd line easily dominated the Oilers second line, because they never got to play!

We hear all the time about penalties and power plays affecting regular players, so it must also be true that sitting on the bench waiting for your turn can’t help.

While the pursuit of individual trophies is pure oilers, it has proven that it drives success to a point but not higher. I’m still seeing things on oilers propaganda talking about pissy not getting enough conn smythe votes!

The irony of all of this is that the glitter twins can’t even play a regular shift because they just don’t have the depth to win games without the double shifts.

[Roof-Daddy]

Oh FFS just go away McDavid

One more year and then walk as a UFA

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So who wants to bet me cash since my sources are so unreliable? Line the F up. I will take you all to the cleaners. McDavid is leaving, you says my sources are bunk, let's go. $100 a pop. Put your money where your mouth is.

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[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

Congratulations, you've outdone the damage done to the crypto thread by dino7c. Line up the worst poster award!

LOL. Diss is OK except when he seems to get...well....dissed.

[Brupal]

Apparently Skinner didn’t support McDavid enough, according to former GM

https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/nhl/n...ley-cup-finals

Although it has been pointed out that Sportskeeda is not the most reliable source for truth.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Is McDavid even on first-names basis with Skinner?

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Other teams have better supporting casts in place than the Oilers.

Like add McDavid to the Stars or Jets with their D and goaltending and even if you had to subtract a good talent to make the cap work you've instantly got a better challenger from the west than the Oilers were last past two years.

That's assuming Dallas upgrades its coaching to someone who isnt an idiot.

[Locke]

It would be interesting to see how McDavid would even fit on another team. Not as many minutes, not as many marshmallow points, probably doesnt get to play all 2 minutes of every powerplay every time.

Has to play a role, probably might even be required to backcheck? Its possible that essentially running the Oilers for a decade how would that look on another team?

[Bonded]

The last offseason was so bad for them. Once again their management snatched a cup from McDavid. Love to see it

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Jesus. Can we just not with this whole topic again.

Just put him in ignore like I did, he is a returning poster who has been banned more times than Donald Trump has told lies. He is just trying to troll me because that is all he does on here, troll. Unfortunately if the mods ban him for like the 1000th time he will just return again

[Saqe]

Benny with the apology lol.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1936853435074383894

[CroFlames]

Winning looks like fun.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Absolutely. I am certain he will though which is why I am so adamant.

Things can change though, you never know. You were just as adamant that Johnny would resign with Calagry, and he almost did, but sometimes unexpected things change at the last moment.

Until ink is put to paper......

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I hs e explained before why he signed that long term first deal. One, it was big dollars. Two, McDavid really wanted to bring a Cup to Edmonton because he felt loyal to the team that drafted him. However, his intentions have always been at some point in his career to play for the Leafs. The Oilers have come damn close these past couple years, the only way I am possibly wrong is if he thinks the window stays open for a few more years and he signs a one or two year extension, I can't see it as it's too risky.

Obviously I am not going to reveal my source in this but of any source I have ever had in hockey this one is the most solid easily for this. I will counter Bob Stauffer and FS by saying he is leaving, 100%. If I am wrong everybody can have their pile on and rightfully so.

This actually makes sense. After next year, Edmonton's chances of winning undoubtedly decrease. Even McDavid isn't quite the player he was. He needs help to win the Cup. Now Toronto may not be the answer, but who knows?

And McDavid may keep it to himself, as he'd rather join the Leafs as a UFA then trigger a trade and have the Leafs give up valuable assets.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Locke

It would be interesting to see how McDavid would even fit on another team. Not as many minutes, not as many marshmallow points, probably doesnt get to play all 2 minutes of every powerplay every time.

Has to play a role, probably might even be required to backcheck? Its possible that essentially running the Oilers for a decade how would that look on another team?

This. You cannot win a cup in the NHL based on skill alone. You either need so much talent on your roster that it is completely overwhelming - Drysaddle and McDavid aren't enough even as good as they are. Or you need a team with high end skill and an incredibly deep roster - see the Panthers.

It has been very obvious in two cup finals and deep cup runs, that McDavid and Drysaddle aren't going to burry pucks at the elite rates they do in the regular season, especially in the finals, so who picks it up? Those two certainly aren't checking like demons to make up for the lost production.

The Oilers are in woeful need of a forward like Coleman, and a defenceman like Andersson and an upgrade in net before they can win a cup imho. They don't have the cap room, assets or draft picks to make it happen so I am confident in saying they are likely post apex as a group now.

McDavid would be pretty dumb to commit to that team long term at this juncture if he has any aspirations of winning cups and would be wise to walk as a UFA to a situation where there is much more functional team set up. It's only going to get harder as they pay him again, bouchard and whoever else they need to try to bring in to win. He's also at or passing his peak and could easily be more of a 90-100point player that misses 10 games a year moving forward and that creates even more issues.

[CroFlames]

No matter what McDavid does, he'll never be considered the greatest Oiler.

May as well go to Toronto and become the greatest Leaf of all time.