06-19-2025, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gvitaly
I heard those rumours as well, and I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted Andersson, I just doubt they would want to trade the #2 pick for him and #18, or other assets. #30 from Dallas this year, or the EDM 1st next year, would probably be the centrepiece in such a trade.
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I think they will trade down, and I think that they would value extra assets to make trades. Misa is more valuable to other teams than he is to SJ, but they still could use a high-end prospect.
I think Martone or Eklund makes sense to SJ. I could see SJ trading down to the 6 or 7 range too, assuming a team will pay up a bit. I could see any of Boston, Philly or Seattle be all over #2. If SJ traded down to that range and added assets that they can flip for players, that is their best move.
Boston needs a top center, has extra picks and always is a top destination for players so they can afford to pay knowing they get players in free agency.
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06-19-2025, 11:09 AM
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#123
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Macho0978
The advantage of no state tax and winning. Florida is going to be a threat for the next 5 years if they get this one done.
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8 years versus 7 from another team, plus no tax, is worth a lot of money to a 28 year old. This is a retirement contract.
Calgary would probably have to offer almost 10M x7 to match the total in pocket dollars.
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06-19-2025, 11:09 AM
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#124
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I'm curious about taking on Seguin for two years when the Flames cap isn't really in danger of having him on it. What would the value be to Dallas to clear up all 9m of his contract? A 1st and Bourque?
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06-19-2025, 11:14 AM
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#125
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Originally Posted by dammage79
I'm curious about taking on Seguin for two years when the Flames cap isn't really in danger of having him on it. What would the value be to Dallas to clear up all 9m of his contract? A 1st and Bourque?
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That's an interesting prospect. Has there been any reports of Dallas wanting to dump Seguin?
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06-19-2025, 11:17 AM
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#126
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Originally Posted by dammage79
I'm curious about taking on Seguin for two years when the Flames cap isn't really in danger of having him on it. What would the value be to Dallas to clear up all 9m of his contract? A 1st and Bourque?
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He has a full NMC. Not sure about the value, but I wouldn't waive in Seguin's shoes.
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06-19-2025, 11:17 AM
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#127
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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That is interesting to me too... if Dallas needs cap space, well we could have room for Seguin and his bloated contract. Would want to take on a 1st for doing so, of course; similar to the Monahan deal.
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06-19-2025, 11:17 AM
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#128
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Location: Calgary
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edit: nvm beat
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06-19-2025, 11:26 AM
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#129
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Originally Posted by Muta
That is interesting to me too... if Dallas needs cap space, well we could have room for Seguin and his bloated contract. Would want to take on a 1st for doing so, of course; similar to the Monahan deal.
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Seguin is owed close to $20M. No one takes that on, and I doubt he waives anyway.
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06-19-2025, 11:32 AM
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#130
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
Seguin is owed close to $20M. No one takes that on, and I doubt he waives anyway.
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Would never say never. $10M/year for only two years, not something Calgary couldn't consider to receive other additional (and valuable) assets in a larger trade - a 2027 1st, Robertson, Bourque, etc. Players waive NTC's all the time too if they're not wanted. Not saying he'd do it for Calgary, but it's not a bad idea in overall discussion.
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06-19-2025, 11:34 AM
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#131
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
I'm curious about taking on Seguin for two years when the Flames cap isn't really in danger of having him on it. What would the value be to Dallas to clear up all 9m of his contract? A 1st and Bourque?
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Why would Dallas make this move? They’d be effectively clearing cap space, sure. But adding in who I’m assuming they view as his replacement makes no sense.
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06-19-2025, 11:34 AM
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#132
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon
This is why I think an Andersson trade before (or at) the draft is unlikely. Why would anyone pay assets to get Andersson when they could wait four days and possibly sign Ekblad?
Andersson trade isn't happening until Ekblad signs, IMO.
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It is also better for the Flames to wait for Ekblad to be off the board as it will leave Andersson as the best/only top pair RD available this off season and next. At that point Conroy will be able to demand more for Andersson.
Having said that, the list of teams that need Ekblad/Andersson are longer than the list of players available.
Sportsnet's list: Sabres, 'Canes, Leafs, Stars, Canadiens
Daily Faceoff's list: 'Canes, Blue Jackets, Stars, Red Wings, Senators, Flyers
Flames Nation: Kings, Senators, Blues, Capitals, Jets
None of those lists include the Sharks but I think Grier is going to be aggressive in upgrading his top D pair this offseason as everything else is in place.
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Originally Posted by gvitaly
I heard those rumours as well, and I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted Andersson, I just doubt they would want to trade the #2 pick for him and #18, or other assets. #30 from Dallas this year, or the EDM 1st next year, would probably be the centrepiece in such a trade.
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#18 would be a good pick for the Sharks. If their priority right now is RD then #18 is close to where Hensler is expected to go and he is the second best RD in the draft. It would probably work better if the Flames could turn 18+32 into 10 or 11 so that the Sharks could go after Mrtka (top RD in the draft).
If the Sharks offered a late 1st as a centerpiece to the Flames then I would expect that would end the conversation as 4 other teams would be able to beat that offer in order to get Andersson.
At that point you have to wonder how badly the Sharks want to get out of the basement. If they cannot upgrade their D group then they are likely going to blow another season of Celebrini and Askarov will get absolutely shelled in his rookie season. I don't believe Grier is interested in a 4th basement season and will be making moves this summer to fix his D situation with the hopes that it pushes the Sharks back into the playoff conversation. (He definitely isn't shy about making moves)
If you put yourself in Grier's shoes, there are not a lot of other options for fixing his D situation. Ekblad, Flames, Pens?? ... not sure who else is selling a top pair D.
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06-19-2025, 11:36 AM
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#133
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by Roko
I would overpay the sharks for Misa. Him and Parekh are good buddies. Mews, Andersson, 18. Whatever
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What if the whatever is both of the Flames 2026 1st rounders unprotected?
Andersson, Mews, 18, 26 1st CGY, 26 1st LV
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06-19-2025, 11:40 AM
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#134
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
I'm curious about taking on Seguin for two years when the Flames cap isn't really in danger of having him on it. What would the value be to Dallas to clear up all 9m of his contract? A 1st and Bourque?
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Can’t see Seguin waiving to come here? Maybe they could convince him he would have a huge role here but doesn’t make a ton of sense from his perspective with a NMC
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06-19-2025, 11:42 AM
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#135
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Roko
I would overpay the sharks for Misa. Him and Parekh are good buddies. Mews, Andersson, 18. Whatever
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I think Calgary would agree from what I’ve heard.
Just not sure they have or want to give what it would take.
Next years first would have to be included
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06-19-2025, 11:48 AM
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#136
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Looking at the Stars cap I think Robertson is definitely getting traded for the highest futures offer available where they take no cap back.
Something around the 4th pick with Utah or the 7th pick with Boston?
1 more year at $7.75M then RFA with 1 year to UFA likely wants a deal bigger than Huberdeaus’s $10.5M per.
Would you have any interest in the Flames chasing a high scoring winger with their cap space and assets? Not the best fit for me but I think Robertson is a hell of a player I just think it is too soon for the Flames to make this type of trade
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06-19-2025, 11:48 AM
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Scoring Winger
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06-19-2025, 11:54 AM
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#139
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Lewis_D
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Nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah, hey hey heeyyyy, goodbye.
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06-19-2025, 11:55 AM
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#140
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Muta
Would never say never. $10M/year for only two years, not something Calgary couldn't consider to receive other additional (and valuable) assets in a larger trade - a 2027 1st, Robertson, Bourque, etc. Players waive NTC's all the time too if they're not wanted. Not saying he'd do it for Calgary, but it's not a bad idea in overall discussion.
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The cost to get a team take on $20M of unwanted cap is simply too much for Dallas to stomach.
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