2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by HitterD

A PPG centre is definitely a #1C

Ya, there were 17 PPG or more centers in the NHL this year. Being a PPG center would put a player comfortably in that 12-15 range in terms of league wide quality of first line centers. Not elite but not bad either.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Nah we don’t need more middle 6 guys. Especially one who is tiny. We need star players difference makers.

There are no star forward difference makers in this draft. That is a bit of the problem.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Fun fact. Brad Marchand and Marco Rossi are the same height

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I don’t dig into details of much draft stuff, but I did think it was weird seeing Desnoyers so high while guys like Laf, Mercer, Zary, and Bourque out paced him (Laf by a lot, the rest by a bit) and none of those guys have turned into even 60 point guys or bonafide #1s.

That's true, but one of the main reasons for that is that scoring is way down in the Q, with more teams adopting defense-first strategies. Desnoyers' 84 points in 56 games puts him 5th in Q scoring, with the points-leader only having 103 points. The Q has also reduced it's season to 64 games, so the players get more rest, and have more practice time. Prorated to 68 games however, Desnoyers would have 102 points (!). Desnoyers playoff performance, 30 points in 19 games, was 1st in the Q playoffs for PPG (1.58), which ties Jonathan Huberdeau for 48th-all-time by a player 18-and-under, and is 18th all-time by a U-18 player.

-He had 5 points in 5 games at the Hlinka last summer, putting him in 5th for Team Canada (the leader had 7 points), ahead of Kindel (2 points), Martin (4 points), Cootes (1 point), and O'Brien (0 points).

-He put up 5 points in 5 games at last year's U-18 tournament, putting him 9th on Team Canada, despite missing 2 games, and playing a defensive role.

He's an absolute beauty, and never cheats the game.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Lol.
You think you are some shining example of great discourse?
I have no problem with people disagreeing with rumored or actual moves. But you go further by making illogical leaps to it being some sort of proof of what you've already decided. It's the doomsday negativity that I tire of. You can be that way if you choose, and in turn, people can offer counterpoints to that. No one is saying what you can and can't post - they are just commenting on what you post.

And then you post utter crud like this:

"Alot of people are clearly fine with doing the same thing we always do though. They want to continue to enjoy 1 playoff series win every decade. Because they don't have the patience for a rebuild."

Lame.

At this point you have to acknowledge he’s probably just being a clown on purpose. Doing the thing where he never responds to anyone he’s mocking directly was a tip, but the handful of personal comments followed by “why do people take it personal?” baked that cake.

That or he’s a struggler. But I’m going benefit of the doubt and saying clown on purpose.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Sandman

That's true, but one of the main reasons for that is that scoring is way down in the Q, with more teams adopting defense-first strategies. Desnoyers' 84 points in 56 games puts him 5th in Q scoring, with the points-leader only having 103 points. The Q has also reduced it's season to 64 games, so the players get more rest, and have more practice time. Prorated to 68 games however, Desnoyers would have 102 points (!). Desnoyers playoff performance, 30 points in 19 games, was 1st in the Q playoffs for PPG (1.58), which ties Jonathan Huberdeau for 48th-all-time by a player 18-and-under, and is 18th all-time by a U-18 player.

-He had 5 points in 5 games at the Hlinka last summer, putting him in 5th for Team Canada (the leader had 7 points), ahead of Kindel (2 points), Martin (4 points), Cootes (1 point), and O'Brien (0 points).

-He put up 5 points in 5 games at last year's U-18 tournament, putting him 9th on Team Canada, despite missing 2 games, and playing a defensive role.

He's an absolute beauty, and never cheats the game.

And this is why I never dig into stuff. Because unlike him, I do cheat the game, and rely on posters like you to educate me lol.

Thanks Sandman, always dig your insights.

[TheScorpion]

If Andersson were a UFA, would the Flames be interested in signing him for big money with Weegar and Parekh already here?

[Sandman]

True, this is a poor draft, but there's plenty of difference-making players in the top-20, and guys like Misa, Desnoyers, Martone, Frondell, and others shouldn't have to be pigeonholed because they are at the top-end of a weak draft. Those guys are potential top-line players in the future, and absolutely move the needle.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

And this is why I never dig into stuff. Because unlike him, I do cheat the game, and rely on posters like you to educate me lol.

Thanks Sandman, always dig your insights.

Thanks Pepsi!

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

If Andersson were a UFA, would the Flames be interested in signing him for big money with Weegar and Parekh already here?

I don't think so. Add Pachal and BRZ into the depth chart and it's a very easy answer IMO.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

If Andersson were a UFA, would the Flames be interested in signing him for big money with Weegar and Parekh already here?

I don't think there is any chance they pay him market value...market value as in what he could get if he goes to UFA

[TheScorpion]

But I'm not talking about market value vs a hometown discount or anything ... why would a team in the Flames' position pursue another RHD at all? If loyalty was completely out of the equation, is he even on the radar?

[Sandman]

Regarding Rossi, there's a reason why he's the one on the block, and that's because of his size- plain and simple. He doesn't make the kind of room for himself that Marchand does, because Marchand is mean, fiery, and thinks he's 6'3". He might put up points, but the game is so much more these days than just scoring, and players without size struggle to make an impact beyond that. I like Rossi, but let's not pretend that you will go far in the playoffs if he's your top center. There's a reason that Minny has their second-leading scorer on the block.

Unpopular opinion, but people in here fall in love with small players too easily. Size will ALWAYS be an asset in a contact sport, and lack of size will ALWAYS be a detriment- if you're small in today's game, and have success, it's despite your size deficiencies.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

If Andersson were a UFA, would the Flames be interested in signing him for big money with Weegar and Parekh already here?

Fantastic way to frame it!

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

But I'm not talking about market value vs a hometown discount or anything ... why would a team in the Flames' position pursue another RHD at all? If loyalty was completely out of the equation, is he even on the radar?

If they didn’t have Rasmus, I do think the Flames would be looking at free agency to fill in the top 4. You can argue the lefty-righty part, but they will need to fill that gap. Parekh will need some time IMO.

[dammage79]

I'm not against Rossi but he's an add on like Frost. And I'm hard pressed to discount any player who lacks size from being a top line player. The fact we had Johnny Gaudreau on our team should at the very least leaveost fans with an open mind about who can and can not have a pretty major impact on the game.

Adding Rossi is just a step. Not the end game.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Regarding Rossi, there's a reason why he's the one on the block, and that's because of his size- plain and simple. He doesn't make the kind of room for himself that Marchand does, because Marchand is mean, fiery, and thinks he's 6'3". He might put up points, but the game is so much more these days than just scoring, and players without size struggle to make an impact beyond that. I like Rossi, but let's not pretend that you will go far in the playoffs if he's your top center. There's a reason that Minny has their second-leading scorer on the block.

Unpopular opinion, but people in here fall in love with small players too easily. Size will ALWAYS be an asset in a contact sport, and lack of size will ALWAYS be a detriment- if you're small in today's game, and have success, it's despite your size deficiencies.

I’m not thinking of him as a top line centre but I think he could fill the 2c slot

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'm not against Rossi but he's an add on like Frost. And I'm hard pressed to discount any player who lacks size from being a top line player. The fact we had Johnny Gaudreau on our team should at the very least leaveost fans with an open mind about who can and can not have a pretty major impact on the game.

Adding Rossi is just a step. Not the end game.

It happens, but not very often. And in spite of their lack of size. Johnny had god-like edges and stickhandling.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Fun fact. Brad Marchand and Marco Rossi are the same height

Sign the rat for 2 years $30 million

[Royle9]

*Buffalo based rumour, not confirmed nor know how legit* huge doubts

BUF receives:
Andersson
Mews

CGY receives:
Byram
9th OA

Too good to be true in my honest opinion.
I personally feel like if that deal was on the table, Craig would have pulled it already.
Dont see Andersson extending in a dead market/terrible franchise at this point.


Same guy has:

NJD receive:
Jason Robertson

Dallas receive:
Dougie Hamilton
2026 1st
Simon Nemec