Flames and Canucks in on Rossi?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Ok, well I trust legit insiders more than whomever you are talking to











https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/countdown-to-...ossi-1.2320339

lol ok. Can quote the last gm that said he’s dying to trade a player ?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

lol ok. Can quote the last gm that said he’s dying to trade a player ?

Ya, because GM's who are literally willing to give away a player are trying to work a deal out with them at the same time. That makes total sense.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by VilleN

Honestly - I really wish they'd quit talking about acquiring players... just tank already. It is abundantly clear that no amount of retooling will have this team competing with a team like Florida.

Highly doubt they will do that at this point when they found their goalie.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It’s been reported they are not looking for a massive return at all. They want assets to use to flip up upgrade him. Proceed with caution helping a rival.

LOL what GM would say that to anyone

[Icantwhisper]

I'm pretty good at predicting the future, lets see how I do.
1) Rossi is acquired by the Flames, he's great, this is just what we needed, we're on our way, great trade, what a steal.
2) Any other team acquires Rossi, he's overrated, over payment, stupid trade, haha losers, makes no sense.

[Vinny01]

I think Rossi would be a solid add for any team. I remember ready up on him in his draft year that he is small but a fierce competitor and he is starting to breakout at the NHL level.

I don’t believe for a second the return is as low as Blaster is speculating. I think the Canucks would have to give up the 15th pick to get the deal done.

If the Flames see Rossi as a C I am not sure I see the fit with Kadri, Frost, Backlund? Would Frost be signed to a short term deal? If Frost and Rossi get term why would Bscklund want to return after next season unless the team is looking like contenders (hard to see)


What about Frost being part of the deal? Frost+32nd pick for Rossi?

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think Rossi would be a solid add for any team. I remember ready up on him in his draft year that he is small but a fierce competitor and he is starting to breakout at the NHL level.

I don’t believe for a second the return is as low as Blaster is speculating. I think the Canucks would have to give up the 15th pick to get the deal done.

If the Flames see Rossi as a C I am not sure I see the fit with Kadri, Frost, Backlund? Would Frost be signed to a short term deal? If Frost and Rossi get term why would Bscklund want to return after next season unless the team is looking like contenders (hard to see)


What about Frost being part of the deal? Frost+32nd pick for Rossi?

I think Frost is going to sign a short term show me deal, which inevitably walks him to FA.
He hasn't really shown anything to be worth committing to past a couple years, unless it's extremely cheap, which wouldn't be smart from his camp.

Unless he has a breakout year next season, I don't think he's long term with the Flames.

He was a relatively cheap acquisition, so it's a fine gamble and a useful stopgap.


I don't think Frost holds a ton of value, maybe a 2nd? I can't see 32nd oa + Frost being enticing, but maybe the entire league is as low on him as some here think.

If that's what it took, I would definitely do it.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

If the Flames see Rossi as a C I am not sure I see the fit with Kadri, Frost, Backlund? Would Frost be signed to a short term deal? If Frost and Rossi get term why would Bscklund want to return after next season unless the team is looking like contenders (hard to see)


What about Frost being part of the deal? Frost+32nd pick for Rossi?

Backlund is 36 years old with one year left on his deal. He should not be factored at all in the decision to bring in a 23 year old top six center.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Backlund is 36 years old with one year left on his deal. He should not be factored at all in the decision to bring in a 23 year old top six center.

And especially with sending out a 25 year old C as part of the package

[SportsJunky]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Rossi is too small. The Flames need to be cognizant of that now we are leaning on the smaller side and soft.

You can look at the 1 centers on the previous champs all big and gritty minus Point but he is thick gritty and fast.

Play him with Klapka.

[RyZ]

Id move the 31/32 and Honzek for Rossi in a minute.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by RyZ

Id move the 31/32 and Honzek for Rossi in a minute.

no thank you

[YyjFlames]

Honzek is a project pick. He probably has a lot more value to the Flames than other organizations.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

no thank you

Really?

Is that because you think that Honzek will be better than a 24G, 60P centre at the NHL level? Or do you think that Rossi will be overpaid here, making $7M, and not create enough offence playing for the Flames?

Or is it the late 1st? The last impact player selected 32nd overall was Derek Roy in 2001. The only decent players drafted since 1995 besides Roy were Pinto, Samuelsson, and Bolland.

We'll get the 32nd pick, but players drafted with the 31st overall in the last 30 years: Markstrom, that's it... HM: Pitlick, Laraque, Brendan Lemiux, Klim Kostin.

[Bonded]

If the Wild could get a good return for Rossi he would already be gone imo. This isn’t the first time the Wild have been pushing to trade him and I’m guessing a lot of GMs have the exact same concerns about his size and ability to perform in the playoffs.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Really?

Is that because you think that Honzek will be better than a 24G, 60P centre at the NHL level? Or do you think that Rossi will be overpaid here, making $7M, and not create enough offence playing for the Flames?

Or is it the late 1st? The last impact player selected 32nd overall was Derek Roy in 2001. The only decent players drafted since 1995 besides Roy were Pinto, Samuelsson, and Bolland.

We'll get the 32nd pick, but players drafted with the 31st overall in the last 30 years: Markstrom, that's it... HM: Pitlick, Laraque, Brendan Lemiux, Klim Kostin.

Could be they just don’t like Rossi. I’d only want the Flames to trade for Rossi if they shuffled out Frost. He’d be a good #2C but the Flames already have too much depth.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Really?

Is that because you think that Honzek will be better than a 24G, 60P centre at the NHL level? Or do you think that Rossi will be overpaid here, making $7M, and not create enough offence playing for the Flames?

Or is it the late 1st? The last impact player selected 32nd overall was Derek Roy in 2001. The only decent players drafted since 1995 besides Roy were Pinto, Samuelsson, and Bolland.

We'll get the 32nd pick, but players drafted with the 31st overall in the last 30 years: Markstrom, that's it... HM: Pitlick, Laraque, Brendan Lemiux, Klim Kostin.

Not speaking for Enoch but for me I don't want Rossi for free. It makes us slightly better next year, in a way that doesn't really move the needle on the franchise's fortunes, but probably would hurt our draft pick. This is pointless. The value of potentially getting a franchise talent like McKenna is vastly superior to a 60 pt center. we don't need these guys. we need the franchise talent, you get the Rossis later.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Could be they just don’t like Rossi. I’d only want the Flames to trade for Rossi if they shuffled out Frost. He’d be a good #2C but the Flames already have too much depth.

Yeah, I wasn't trying to pick on Enoch Root, I was genuinely curious. I understand size is a factor, but did he get all of his points because of his line-mates?

Admittedly, I didn't watch much of Rossi this season, that's why I find it strange his value would be so low compared to his production, and age.

As far as the centre depth, that's a fair point regarding Frost, and to a lesser extant Zary. Are we certain Backlund is staying when his contract is up? Is he going to only play for the Flames or potentially consider a move at the deadline? Because that would be a big hole in the lineup to fill if he moves on.

[Toonage]

I have a bit of a hard time believing a few things about this.

1 - That the Wild are actively looking to dump the player, thus reducing whatever value he has or they believe he might have.
2 - That Conroy would have only a mild interest when this player is an "age appropriate" C, maybe undersized, but would fit on a Flames team where the centers they do have are either nearing replacement getting very long in the tooth or simply not very good or proven.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I have a bit of a hard time believing a few things about this.

1 - That the Wild are actively looking to dump the player, thus reducing whatever value he has or they believe he might have.
2 - That Conroy would have only a mild interest when this player is an "age appropriate" C, maybe undersized, but would fit on a Flames team where the centers they do have are either nearing replacement getting very long in the tooth or simply not very good or proven.

The Wild also looked at moving him the previous season and then demoted him to the fourth line in the playoffs. They don’t think he is a player they can win with and don’t want to commit to his contract demands. I’m guessing a lot teams agree with them.