SCF: Florida Panthers (A3) vs Edmonton Oilers (P3) - PANTHERS WIIIIN 4-2!!!

[SemicolonD]

Since when were the Flames boring to watch this year? Boring was round 2 and 3 of this year's playoffs.

This loss I'm not hanging off any ledge like I was watching how Vegas and the Stars were losing their games. Florida knows how to win, it's a 7 game series.

Not the time to meltdown yet. If they played like sh*t I would be melting down too, but they played great and one weak goal by Bob, couple bounces, it happens.

[1Nite]

Life must be real pathetic to have to come to a Flames board and pretend your a Flames fan, and try to throw darts at the Flames to make yourself feel better for cheering for that loser franchise.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

I was talking to my wife today and we walked down to a bar to catch the 3rd period. She never watches hockey, knows nothing about it but was getting a little too cheery for “Alberta’s Team” which is mostly just to annoy me. I did say to her that the Oilers sucked for more than a decade and ended up with a lottery win. What she said is the prevailing sentiment I am getting from a lot of people—— “in the present, they’re in back to back Cup finals. The past is in the past. Look at how much fun their fans must be having. You would do anything for this to be the Flames.”

You know what? If I had to live in a decade of missed playoffs to enjoy players like McDavid and Draisaitl for 20 years? Sign me up. I’m down for it.

You can even rip on Leafs fans all you want but atleast they’ve got to watch Matthews, Marner, Nylander on a nightly basis.

I just want the Flames to have bonafide, elite talent on their roster. You only get that at the top of the draft. You know how fun it was to watch Celebrini this year and it was his rookie year and Sharks sucked? It was a lot of fun.

What the hell are you talking about? The Flames at one point had Prime time Elvis Lindholm, JG, Sean monahan, Bennet, Norris Gio, Tkachuk ,Hamilton etc.. They had bonified elite talent. Calgary just ####ed up the managing of the talent. ####.. at this point you can officially say kulak was a talent they ####ed up handling. Like how many ex Flames are doing well or on the cusp of well that the Flames mis managed? Calgary was a top 5 team year over year for like 5 years . Management just ####ed up in handling contracts.

[Itse]

Pretty obvious these are the two best teams this year.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Flames games were great, especially down the stretch

Should have known the usual suspects would be in here tonight to trash the Flames and pump the Oilers. Likely wouldn't be here at all if the Panthers won. Go figure.

Hopefully the Panthers get the split, thats really what you are looking for starting on the road.

You and Groot are just high as hell off that copium

The flames were a dog#### team for 75% of thos season. Plenty of very boring or straight up disappointing games. Players started really trying when it was already too late, and lulled some into thinking it was an exciting season when really we just watched them half ass at some key moments and generally max out the talent on the roster when the playoff push was already almost too far out of reach.

[Rhett44]

I'm not sure why some people are so proud of not tanking when it just results in us being a bubble playoff team all the time.

I'd sure like to draft a McDavid, MacKinnon, Barkov, type forward one of these years and have a chance at a cup one day. I really don't think Oilers fans care that their team was an embarrassment for years when they are clearly the best team in the west 2 years in a row.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Yobbo

The doom and gloom continues on this forum. The Panthers didn't play near their best and almost went to double overtime in the Coilers arena. Not sure how so many figures this series is over. Wow...

Not only that but we saw this last year after McDrai were getting close to 30 minutes a night every game for the whole season and playoffs, if the Panthers can take this series past 5 games those two guys will have absolutely nothing left in the tank, just like last year.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Not only that but we saw this last year after McDrai were getting close to 30 minutes a night every game for the whole season and playoffs, if the Panthers can take this series past 5 games those two guys will have absolutely nothing left in the tank, just like last year.

Close to 30 minutes a night?

Against Florida last year he averaged about 22 minutes per game.

In the last 2 regular seasons, he's averaged about 21 minutes per game. Slightly more in the playoffs, likely due to OT games going much longer.

Basically in line with Barkov.

McDavid at about 23 minutes during the playoffs, close to 22 in the regular season.

Yes they play a lot, as do must elite players, but let's not pretend they are playing close to 30 minutes per game.

Sam Reinhart is about 21 minutes in playoff games.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Not only that but we saw this last year after McDrai were getting close to 30 minutes a night every game for the whole season and playoffs, if the Panthers can take this series past 5 games those two guys will have absolutely nothing left in the tank, just like last year.

Actually their playing time is down significantly from last year. Their depth has actually been playing well enough where they don't need to play half the game.

[direwolf]

The amount of Oiler bootlickers in this thread is embarrassing.

[Hockey_Ninja]

At this point, my biggest fear is that if the Oilers win it all that Edwards will push Conroy to "speed up" the "retool"....

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

No one is asking the Flames to make questionable drafting decisions, horrible trades and repulsive UFA signings.

All that's being asked is for us to get a chance to draft players like McDavid or Draisaitl, which happen more often than not at the top of the draft.

To counter that hope by saying the Edmonton model is an awful model or not a model at all is completely missing the point. No one is defending Edmonton's model here. In fact, the idea of Edmonton's model was only brought up by people trying to tear it down as a model to replicate, which again, wasn't what the argument was originally about.

To then point to the Florida, Colorado and Tampa teams as models to follow is incredibly ironic because they were also examples of teams who tanked for elite talent and are now good as a result of that, which was the whole point.

The chance to draft a player of McDavids quality is incredibly rare.
So when you say that’s all that’s being asked just understand how incredibly hard it is to be lucky enough to get a player like him
He is probably the best offensive player in the history of the game

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

What the hell are you talking about? The Flames at one point had Prime time Elvis Lindholm, JG, Sean monahan, Bennet, Norris Gio, Tkachuk ,Hamilton etc.. They had bonified elite talent. Calgary just ####ed up the managing of the talent. ####.. at this point you can officially say kulak was a talent they ####ed up handling. Like how many ex Flames are doing well or on the cusp of well that the Flames mis managed? Calgary was a top 5 team year over year for like 5 years . Management just ####ed up in handling contracts.

The Flames had some nice pieces but were they ever a real threat? They would play amazing one year and miss the playoffs the following year. They were very hot and cold. I'd say the majority of truly elite teams don't do that. They also never made a single deep run in any of those years which makes you question if they had the make up for playoff hockey. First round exit every year other than the game 7 OT win against Dallas. Then they got smoked round 2. I think fans focus way to much on a couple strong regular seasons they had while ignoring the many underachieving moments they also had. Good team but not elite.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I was a fan during the peak of the rivalry in the 80s, and I don’t recall anyone back then claiming the Oilers weren’t a great team. The whole point of getting excited about beating the Oilers was beating the best team in the league.

Maybe the whole the Oilers aren’t even very good thing is a legacy of so few meaningful games played between the two teams over the last 25 years. Or maybe it’s just easier to express something so clearly untrue online than it is to speak it out loud in front of other people IRL.

Or maybe the whole E=NG thing isn't nearly as serious thing as you are making it out to be. It is just a thread and concept for Flames fans to hate on their biggest rival. That's all it is. I'm always surprised when some people try to turn it into something more serious or bigger than that. It's just a silly bit of fun.

The Oilers are clearly a great team. They've made it to back to back finals. I don't think that means they are a great organization. I think they are largely poorly run who got VERY lucky drafting a generational talent.

But yeah we all know they are a great team and better than the Flames.

But that doesn't mean that E=NG isn't true. It is true. Always and forever.

[Looch City]

Oilers literally think of themselves as the second coming of Christ. God their arrogance is annoying.

All of them beating each other off, see I told you we're no longer a 2-man team!!1

Bunch of ####ing hicks.

It's going to be so great when they lose.

[FlamesAreOne]

Panthers still got this.

[Toonage]

Indeed. Gentleman's sweep is still on the table!

[indes]

Pretty even contest. That being said I think we saw the Oiler's best but the Panthers have another level (aside from Bennett, he was awesome).

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Hackey

The Flames had some nice pieces but were they ever a real threat? They would play amazing one year and miss the playoffs the following year. They were very hot and cold. I'd say the majority of truly elite teams don't do that. They also never made a single deep run in any of those years which makes you question if they had the make up for playoff hockey. First round exit every year other than the game 7 OT win against Dallas. Then they got smoked round 2. I think fans focus way to much on a couple strong regular seasons they had while ignoring the many underachieving moments they also had. Good team but not elite.

I think Bennett not panning out how we thought he would in Calgary hurt those teams from being better (even though he always played well in the playoffs). Also Monny's injuries slowing his play down. Either way by far the biggest failure of the Flames org since the mid 90's (the time period I was born in) is not getting a franchise level center. Monny was very good but he honestly was never truly elite. Same with Lindholm. Langkow and Conroy, both very good but not elite centers. Jokinen wasn't Florida Jokinen when he was on the Flames. I'd be very much ok with the Flames sucking for years if it meant we could get a Mackinnon or McDavid out of it

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Some of us were young kids in school here in Calgary in the 80’s, and had to tolerate all the bandwagon jock kids year after year who would show up in Oilers jerseys and ridicule everyone who dared to wear a Flames jersey.

That is 100% false. There was no bandwagoning in the 80s here. The only Oiler fans in our school were kids that moved down to Calgary from Edmonton or Red Deer. EVERYONE hated the god damn Oilers with whiny ass Gretzky,.