Is Ahsoka worth watching? I never watched any of the cartoons and I still have a hard time wrapping my head around the fact the Obi-Wan's apprentice had an apprentice. Also, what the heck was she doing during the movies?
It's very much a sequel to Rebels, so I'm not sure how well it read for someone coming in without seeing anything animated.
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well actually after AtoC Anakin was promoted to a Jedi Knight, which would allow him to be a assigned a Padawan. She had (clone wars spoilers)
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left the Jedi Order by the time of RotS, but during its events was fighting in the siege of Mandalore
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Is Ahsoka worth watching? I never watched any of the cartoons and I still have a hard time wrapping my head around the fact the Obi-Wan's apprentice had an apprentice. Also, what the heck was she doing during the movies?
Apparently off somewhere else, but existing. Someone that close to Anakin not being seen in the films but invented later never sat right with me.
People into the animated shows have accepted her as such and that's fine.
But for the rest of us, it's a little harder to accept this rich history with Vader when it hasn't existed in live action.
The show is pretty good for 4? episodes then tails off in the last few into something more...Boba Fett quality.
Outside of some creative choices, Ahsoka and Sabine's awful dialogue, odd acting (a lot of ruminating and pacing around with crossed arms... you'll see) and lack of anything interesting about the characters brings down the show a lot for me.
What gets me is they don't really introduce non-animation fans to who these people are in a way that creates investment. It's really treated like a sequel we just walked into and every one should already know these chracters. It was a super strange way to cater to only a specific segment of the audience.
If Filoni can't figure out the next season maybe he needs to take a back seat on the shows. I'm not sure live action is his forte.
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Apparently off somewhere else, but existing. Someone that close to Anakin not being seen in the films but invented later never sat right with me.
People into the animated shows have accepted her as such and that's fine.
But for the rest of us, it's a little harder to accept this rich history with Vader when it hasn't existed in live action.
The show is pretty good for 4? episodes then tails off in the last few into something more...Boba Fett quality.
Outside of some creative choices, Ahsoka and Sabine's awful dialogue, odd acting (a lot of ruminating and pacing around with crossed arms... you'll see) and lack of anything interesting about the characters brings down the show a lot for me.
What gets me is they don't really introduce non-animation fans to who these people are in a way that creates investment. It's really treated like a sequel we just walked into and every one should already know these characters. Super strange way to cater to only a specific segment of the audience.
If Filoni can't figure out the next season maybe he needs to take a back seat on the shows. I'm not sure live action is his forte.
Star Wars is often guilty of doing this and it drives me nuts.
Always relying on obscure backup content for their story to make any sense.
Part of what makes Andor really good because it stands on it's own.
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Yup. If it can't make sense to someone like my dad, who has only seen episodes 1-6 in that he doesn't need to touch any other media to enjoy the show and understand who the characters are and what's going on without confusion, then safe to say they've failed at what they were trying to accomplish. Unless the show was just for Rebels and TCW fans.
I liked Ahsoka when they introduced her in the Mandalorian. As someone who had never watched the animated shows, she seemed like a cool character in her brief appearances with Mando.
But they really dropped the ball with season 1 of the Ahsoka series. If Filoni was trying to appeal to any fans outside of the hardcore nerds who watched the animated stuff, then he failed miserably. In those 8 episodes I found her character to be boring, miserable, and just not interesting enough to carry her own series. The terrible story/writing and lame secondary characters didn't help either. The only character I found even remotely interesting in that series was Baylan.
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If it was the Baylan show, it would've been a home run.
Instead it was the drab Ahsoka and Sabine show with guest appearances form Baylan.
It's interesting that the characters they created for this series that didn't rely on callbacks were by far and away the most interesting. It's almost as if doing new stories with all new characters could be engaging and lucrative, instead of always trying to be faithful to existing media.
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But they really dropped the ball with season 1 of the Ahsoka series. If Filoni was trying to appeal to any fans outside of the hardcore nerds who watched the animated stuff, then he failed miserably. In those 8 episodes I found her character to be boring, miserable, and just not interesting enough to carry her own series. The terrible story/writing and lame secondary characters didn't help either. The only character I found even remotely interesting in that series was Baylan.
And from someone who only knows of Thrawn through the original Zahn books, he was very disappointing in the series. Hardly a strategic mastermind as he basically sacrificed hundreds of troops so that his star destroyer could run away from a couple of Jedi.
Personally I would have rather had a second season of Acolyte that focused on the Sith side of the story.
I understand the actor is Mexican. And that he is using his own Mexican accent. But I cannot shake this. Cassian Andor has always sounded French Canadian to me.
Yeah, I think I'll pass on Ahsoka. Man, I wish there was more good original sci-fi out there. Or at least ones based on good books. The Expanse series was really good, but I was disappointed with the 3 Body Problem (TV show, not books).
And from someone who only knows of Thrawn through the original Zahn books, he was very disappointing in the series. Hardly a strategic mastermind as he basically sacrificed hundreds of troops so that his star destroyer could run away from a couple of Jedi.
Well, no, he sacrificed a bunch of what I understand to be quasi-zombies in stormtrooper armor (?) so that he could return to the galaxy from a decades-long exile, and whether those Jedi died in the process or were simply left behind made no difference to him. That is very Thrawn to me - do the math, figure out the possible outcomes and arrange things such that no matter the outcome, you're still in the black and your primary goal is achieved.
I think he'd be great if not for the generally "yes I can tell this is based on a cartoon" tone of the whole show. You could easily put that character into a series with Andor's tone without really having to modify him much at all and it would work.
And they need a character like that; the Empire is too self-destructive sometimes and it becomes a bit one-note. There was no reason Partagaz had to die, just because Jung turned out to be a traitor and he didn't see it, nor does it accomplish anything to imprison Dedra - just direct their energies to where they can serve a purpose.
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Finished Andor Very good! 8/10. Would rate it higher if I could like Cassian more. He was really whiny and cynical. If you have the subtitles on, over and over you read “Cassian scoffs.”
I thought his whole reason for being was to find his sister, and that thread was completely dropped.
Did I miss the reveal of what they were building in prison? I assumed it was components for the Death Star.
Really nice to see an adult version of Star Wars. More please!
Liked the acting of the Empire characters. Cyril’s mom was a piece of work.
The thing about him looking for his sister and him changing course is sort of part and parcel with his journey from being narrowly self-interested to seeing that all of his own self-interested goals are tied up in what the Empire is. Basically an "it's bigger than just you" theme...
the stuff they were building in prison is shown being incorporated into the death star in the post credits scene in the last episode of s1.
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