Andor: A Star Wars Story [Spoilers after episode is available on Disney+]
It looks like there wasn't a separate thread made for this show during Season 1, so here's one for Season 2.
Please don't post any spoilers for things that have not yet been officially released by Disney/Lucasfilm.
The release schedule for Season 2 is: 3 episodes per week for the next 3 weeks released at 7:00pm MT on Tuesday.
Story wise, there will be a 1 year jump between each 3 episode block. The first block was released this week and covers stories that take place 4 years before the events of Rogue One and the first Star Wars movie. The final block is supposed to take place just before the beginning of Rogue One.
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I binged all 3 episodes and just lost track of what time it was. The quality of writing is about on par with Season 1 imo and I'm quite enjoying how they're allowing the scenes the breathe. Colour me surprised that Disney allowed
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an attempted rape
by a villain in their show. That guy was disgusting.
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I binged all 3 episodes and just lost track of what time it was. The quality of writing is about on par with Season 1 imo and I'm quite enjoying how they're allowing the scenes the breathe. Colour me surprised that Disney allowed
Spoiler!
an attempted rape
by a villain in their show. That guy was disgusting.
That scene surprised me as well, and it was quite disturbing for a Star Wars series. It's wild that Disney allowed the filmmakers to keep that in there, let alone film the scene.
That scene surprised me as well, and it was quite disturbing for a Star Wars series. It's wild that Disney allowed the filmmakers to keep that in there, let alone film the scene.
It's a show for adults. They are showing the Empire as the actual Fascists' that they are... and surprise surprise, that attracts a certain type of human to become an Imperial officer.
It's not funny, or cute. They're monsters. They torture, murder, and rape at every power imbalance they can find.
It's nice that Star Wars finally grew up.
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I love the contrast between the Rebels and the Imperials in their "meetings"
The Imperials are at a version of Hitler's Eagles Nest eating catered meals and discussing how to destroy a civilization, groomed and tailored to the highest degree, secrecy of the greatest importance.
Meanwhile the Rebels are literal idiots shooting each other out in the woods while slowly starving to death. No plan, nobody in charge, couldn't find their ass with both hands.
The acting is Emmy-worthy thus far. Loved the single shot opening at the wedding and the changes in Genevieve O'Reilly's expressions as she navigated different conversations with key players.
However, the ceremonial aspects were plodding and felt like a waste of screen time (outside of making a Star Wars property look cultured) and really could've been cut down to a 30 second clip. But for Andor, I'll excuse it.
The lost rebels plot on Yavin was also pretty unimportant and could've been expedited in a big way. Once we got into the rock paper scissors, you knew it had jumped the shark there.
I wish they showed Andor blowing off steam after having to deal with being captive to those idiots for two days, which could've been a fun bit of self awareness.
You can tell they're cooking something good, but the payoff was not present in the first batch. And that's okay. It's still completely engrossing watching these players move around the board. But I do have higher hopes for the next batch of episodes.
As for the controversial scene, what a nothing burger. If we're exploring the nitty gritty details of the Empire's rule over the galaxy, then it's only realistic that those incidents would occur on the ground level. The brutality of colonialism and the abuse of power. It's not like it went full game of thrones.
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It's a show for adults. They are showing the Empire as the actual Fascists' that they are... and surprise surprise, that attracts a certain type of human to become an Imperial officer.
It's not funny, or cute. They're monsters. They torture, murder, and rape at every power imbalance they can find.
It's nice that Star Wars finally grew up.
Yeah, the Star Wars universe is supposed to be grimy, dark, and evil.
It sometimes get lost when you have Teddy Bears and Jar Jar Binks. Also doesn't help that a lot of the recent Star Wars content (eg Clone Wars, Rebels, etc.) was directed at kids so the universe gets painted with a lighter brush sometimes.
Even Mon Mothma's storyline is pretty dark. Having to sell her thirteen old daughter into an arranged marriage to cover money she is funneling into the rebellion is un-Disney
Yeah, the Star Wars universe is supposed to be grimy, dark, and evil.
It sometimes get lost when you have Teddy Bears and Jar Jar Binks. Also doesn't help that a lot of the recent Star Wars content (eg Clone Wars, Rebels, etc.) was directed at kids so the universe gets painted with a lighter brush sometimes.
Even Mon Mothma's storyline is pretty dark. Having to sell her thirteen old daughter into an arranged marriage to cover money she is funneling into the rebellion is un-Disney
Oh come on! Who hasn't done that?
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One thing that I have liked as you look at all of the Disney and Lucasfilm offerings is that the storyline of the OT has some issues.
When we watched the OT, we were given the story that all the members of the Rebellion were good people, looking to free the galaxy from a tyrannical government. But as we've watched the PT, the Clone Wars, The PT and the post endor series that the Empire and New Republic are more similar then different.
We've seen that bad people work on both sides, we've also seem what could be good people on both sides that are trapped in the system and eventually corrupted.
The Rebellion has its share of brutal mission oriented people. Andor is a brutal killer, Saw was a brutal killer, The Old Republic was completely corrupt and uncaring. The Empire was very facist, and the New Republic allowed the return of slavery, the rise of crime families and poverty on the outer rim.
In Andor the Rebels that we saw on Yavin, are not good people, or heroic in any sense. There was probably a reason why the First Order rose so quickly post Endor, and that's because the people looked at what the New Republic offered and craved a return to the peace and order that the Empire offered. Its similar to Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union, where a lot of people craved a return to a Stalin type leader.
With Mon, we saw her as a brief symbol of strong and compassionate leadership in the OT, and in some episodes of the Clone Wars and Rebels. But she's sold her child into a arranged marriage for money, her closest associates are either outright murderers or criminals.
In the case of the Empire and the Rebellion, on both side they wanted to reform the Republic. Mon wanted to bring back the Old Republic and she did corruption and uncaring nature and all. For Palpatine besides the revenge of the Sith and wiping out the Jedi (who needed to be wiped out). Had a vision of a galaxy of order and peace and yes his own twisted view of Justice under one enlightened leader, instead of a bunch of leaders who were unworthy to lead.
For Andor Gorman is going to be the lynch pin of this whole series, that's going to give fire to the Rebellion. Which bears the question, there are really only three leaders in the Empire, Palpatine, Vader and Tarkin. But Vader is really irrelevant to what's going to happen. He's just the muscle. Palpatine is not going to take on an individual task like Gorman, so is Tarkin going to make an appearance. In the Legends, he was a key figure in quelling the Rebellion on Gorman by landing his ship and crushing thousands of protesters, could this series bring that action into Canon?
This is a shades of Grey story. The Rebellion/New Republic is not all good and virtuous, there are some really terrible elements to it and people within it. The Empire by that standard is not pure evil, in the words of people that defend Nazi's they probably had the trains running on time, it looks like they were trying to make sure that people got fed, the criminal underworld and slavery were to an extend contained, in the case of slavery it was state sponsored. But there were probably soldiers that were good people, or even officers that were good officers.
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I saw a lot of hate for that scene online before I watched the episode, I thought it was great. They wove it into the other parts of the story so well, it just punctuated everything else going on in the episode.
She was wound so tight, embrace the chaos.
Really liking this season again, no surprise. I dunno if we will ever get as good as season 1, but I'll definitely take something close to it.
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Yeah, the Star Wars universe is supposed to be grimy, dark, and evil.
It sometimes get lost when you have Teddy Bears and Jar Jar Binks. Also doesn't help that a lot of the recent Star Wars content (eg Clone Wars, Rebels, etc.) was directed at kids so the universe gets painted with a lighter brush sometimes.
Even Mon Mothma's storyline is pretty dark. Having to sell her thirteen old daughter into an arranged marriage to cover money she is funneling into the rebellion is un-Disney
That’s a wierd one because it’s played as her daughter wanting to enter the arranged marriage idea in season one as traditionalism coming back. And given that Mon offers the daughter a way out at the last minute she was willing.
The I wish you were drunk line I find hard to parse. Is she mad at her mom for not supporting her return to traditionalism and projecting her own failed marriage onto her or is she mad at her for letting it get this far.
We only have the one seen where she complains he won’t hold her hand which more suggests just immaturity.
So I find it difficult to know how to judge Montha here.
That’s a wierd one because it’s played as her daughter wanting to enter the arranged marriage idea in season one as traditionalism coming back. And given that Mon offers the daughter a way out at the last minute she was willing.
The I wish you were drunk line I find hard to parse. Is she mad at her mom for not supporting her return to traditionalism and projecting her own failed marriage onto her or is she mad at her for letting it get this far.
We only have the one seen where she complains he won’t hold her hand which more suggests just immaturity.
So I find it difficult to know how to judge Montha here.
I took it as the daughter being so pissed off at what Mon was saying (moments before her forced wedding in front of the galaxy) the only possible excuse would have been that Mon was drunk.
Like, AYFKM? You're telling me NOW that I don't have to do this!
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I saw a lot of hate for that scene online before I watched the episode, I thought it was great. They wove it into the other parts of the story so well, it just punctuated everything else going on in the episode.
She was wound so tight, embrace the chaos.
Really liking this season again, no surprise. I dunno if we will ever get as good as season 1, but I'll definitely take something close to it.
Many critics who were given the entire season ahead of time to base reviews on have said that it surpasses it.
Around episode 6, from what I've heard, is when the season hits its stride.
The next three episodes of Andor are written by Beau Willimon. He wrote the final 3 episodes of last season (the prison ones). Arguably the best episodes.
He's also written Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi, the James Mangold movie that's supposedly in production.
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Andor: A Star Wars Story [Spoilers after episode is available on Disney+]
