[Signing] G Prosvetov signs with Flames -1 year/950k

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Probably. Seen Kadri, Huberdeau and Tanev there in the past year or so.

They have signed jerseys all over the walls as several players go there including the ones you mentioned.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I assume Sigalet has liked what he has seen from this guy. His stats are very underwhelming, as is his previous NHL experience. However, stats aren't everything, so either Prosvetov has either taken steps forward in his development, or the Flames think there is enough there to bring him in on a one-way, stick him in the AHL and work with him.


If Vladar is gone - and if it is Cooley battling with Prosvetov - then that's probably a step backward for the team. Vladar was good. Maybe Cooley is ready - he had a tonne of tools, just didn't have the benefit of consistent coaching. Maybe Provetsov is ready. My bet is Cooley moves up onto the Flames, and for the first time since i can remember, the Flames' AHL farm team will be backstopped by two Russian goalies.

Vladar was good at the end he wasnt good at all earlier in the season

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Bit of a risk to bet on a guy translating with a one way.

But then again they bet on Vladar when he had limited experience.

While Sigalet was a mediocre goalie coach, his eye for identifying goalie talent appears to be a strength.

Still don't know why you move on from Vladar when you don't have to. Down the stretch he gave them a chance in every start. Willing to chalk the earlier part of the season up to getting back in the swing after injury.

[Gordon Bombay]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Bit of a risk to bet on a guy translating with a one way.

But then again they bet on Vladar when he had limited experience.

While Sigalet was a mediocre goalie coach, his eye for identifying goalie talent appears to be a strength.

Still don't know why you move on from Vladar when you don't have to. Down the stretch he gave them a chance in every start. Willing to chalk the earlier part of the season up to getting back in the swing after injury.

My guess is contract negotiations might not be going well with Vladar. He probably wants close to 3M. Conroy probably wants a backup he can pay close to league minimum.

I would bring Vladar back at 1.5M if possible. Thought he was really good the second half of season.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Bit of a risk to bet on a guy translating with a one way.

But then again they bet on Vladar when he had limited experience.

While Sigalet was a mediocre goalie coach, his eye for identifying goalie talent appears to be a strength.

Still don't know why you move on from Vladar when you don't have to. Down the stretch he gave them a chance in every start. Willing to chalk the earlier part of the season up to getting back in the swing after injury.

Depending on the cap hit, a one-way contract isn't much of a risk at all. All it means is if he's in the AHL he gets the NHL salary, and if it's below the threshold, it won't count against the cap.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Vladar was good at the end he wasnt good at all earlier in the season

While I don't disagree, this gives no context. After ending the season early last year to have surgery, I would expect him to be both a little rusty as well as a little tentative to start. Plus, he was getting the tougher match-ups in the first half of the season. I wouldn't be overly concerned about his start because of it.


What matters to me is how he progressed in the season. He finished as a damn near elite goalie. That's not what i would expect out of him as an average. I think he is an excellent backup that helps you win, with the potential to be solid starter.


Wolf is going to be the starter this upcoming season. Vladar - from what we have been hearing - seems to be moving on. Do you feel more comfortable with the ~30 games or so that Cooley or Prosvetov will be playing, or would you have felt more comfortable with Vladar re-signed? I know I would pick Vladar.


Maybe Cooley or Prosvetov (or maybe the Flames sign someone else this off-season) will bring a Jennings trophy? Would love that to happen. I do think, however, that if I am forced to say whether the Flames took a step forward in the backup position, or a step backwards, I would have to say backwards. It will be curious to see how this affects the number of wins they accrue this upcoming season from the backup (whomever it may end up being - I think it will be Cooley, unless they make another move).

[Johnny Makarov]

Vader would have beat the Oilers in that 2022 playoff series. Unlike losers like Oettinger, Markstrom, Hill, Silovs, Rittich, and Kuemper.

[Flames1217]

If we are looking at signing KHL players I would rather the Flames look toward taking a chance on forwards.

For example, Daniil Gutik just lead his team in goals, assists and points (by 11 points to boot) at 23 years old. He is 6'3", plays RW and LW and shoots right. Bring him in and give him a chance to play either with the team or on the Farm (if he agrees) in a top line role.

We need skill, take some chances. Worst case scenario he heads back to the KHL but at least you tried. I want to see big swings...

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

If we are looking at signing KHL players I would rather the Flames look toward taking a chance on forwards.

For example, Daniil Gutik just lead his team in goals, assists and points (by 11 points to boot) at 23 years old. He is 6'3", plays RW and LW and shoots right. Bring him in and give him a chance to play either with the team or on the Farm (if he agrees) in a top line role.

We need skill, take some chances. Worst case scenario he heads back to the KHL but at least you tried. I want to see big swings...

I know nothing of the player, other than the online data. Never drafted, and he's signed until next summer '26, so we'd have to negotiate his release.

https://www.instagram.com/hockey.wor...p/C5BEzjVgRSB/

is that $17m Rupees annually? That's $250k USD yearly, surely that's a manageable contract to negotiate his release from. Is he willing to leave Russia?

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

is that $17m Rupees annually?

Rubles* - and its about $212K USD.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Two Fivenagame

I'm guessing the ECHL would be a step backwards in terms of competition and resources compared to the NCAA. I wonder if an ECHL stint would be good for their development.

I'd assume NCAA has higher end star players but the average level of an ECHL player would be higher, since they are pros.

[Reggie Dunlop]

If you can sign him to Indian Rupees, that'll be about $199,250 USD. Even better.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Vader would have beat the Oilers in that 2022 playoff series. Unlike losers like Oettinger, Markstrom, Hill, Silovs, Rittich, and Kuemper.

It would have gone 7 if he was in i think.

It wasn't a high bar and he usually plays them pretty well.

Ride or die mentality with a goalie in playoffs is stupid to me when he actively costs you games.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

While I don't disagree, this gives no context. After ending the season early last year to have surgery, I would expect him to be both a little rusty as well as a little tentative to start. Plus, he was getting the tougher match-ups in the first half of the season. I wouldn't be overly concerned about his start because of it.


What matters to me is how he progressed in the season. He finished as a damn near elite goalie. That's not what i would expect out of him as an average. I think he is an excellent backup that helps you win, with the potential to be solid starter.


Wolf is going to be the starter this upcoming season. Vladar - from what we have been hearing - seems to be moving on. Do you feel more comfortable with the ~30 games or so that Cooley or Prosvetov will be playing, or would you have felt more comfortable with Vladar re-signed? I know I would pick Vladar.


Maybe Cooley or Prosvetov (or maybe the Flames sign someone else this off-season) will bring a Jennings trophy? Would love that to happen. I do think, however, that if I am forced to say whether the Flames took a step forward in the backup position, or a step backwards, I would have to say backwards. It will be curious to see how this affects the number of wins they accrue this upcoming season from the backup (whomever it may end up being - I think it will be Cooley, unless they make another move).

I would bring back Vladar at the right price. He is a career .890s goalie coming off an .890s year.

Good guy to have around but cant overpay the results

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I would bring back Vladar at the right price. He is a career .890s goalie coming off an .890s year.

Good guy to have around but cant overpay the results

Ya he his last contract was offered based on anticipated improvement. Did not happen. He's worth less than 2m/ season imo

[Reggie Dunlop]

Sounds to me like they've already moved on from Dan Vladar.

Devin Cooley will be given a shot at the backup role, primarily because of his first half AHL All Star performance last season, but it's a very short leash. Prosvetov is waiting in the wings in case another team grabs Cooley on waivers (unlikely, but still possible).

One of Cooley or Prosvetov platoons in the AHL with the kids. Sergeev is the more likely to be a Wrangler unless the organization wants him to see more action then it's the ECHL.

Sergeev may even be the Wrangler starter by seasons end.

Say will slot in somewhere as well and could surprise.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Also: A veteran pro like Prosvetov automatically goes on waivers upon signing a NHL contract. Again, unlikely to be claimed, but still possible.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Also: A veteran pro like Prosvetov automatically goes on waivers upon signing a NHL contract. Again, unlikely to be claimed, but still possible.

I don't think that's true, although I could be wrong. They go on waivers if they sign during the season, but this is free agent season and he is a free agent.


None of the other Europeans getting signed in the last week have had to go on waivers. Only if they get sent down, which can't happen during the summer, or if they go on termination waivers.

[Reggie Dunlop]

I stand corrected.

[Freeway]

They got rid of re-entry waivers in 2013 and I think the O'Reilly waivers were removed in the last CBA negotiation.