Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[puffnstuff]

Theres a reason he made 74 of their MPs part of the Shadow Cabinet, whatever could it be...

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Locke

What are you even talking about? I actively asked for change.

Your recent posts suggest otherwise.

Originally Posted by Locke

So what? He's not in charge. Ergo his misinformation meant nothing.

Originally Posted by Locke

Sure. With what leader? What platform? You think its going to be ceteris paribus?

Sorry...do you think everything is going to stay exactly the same?

You seem to be just trying to avoid the fact that the party appear to be moving forward with the same goals.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Locke

So what? He's not in charge. Ergo his misinformation meant nothing.

He has a massive audience. You don't think spreading misinformation to a massive audience is bad?

EDIT: This is such a bafflingly bad take. Even if it "means nothing," there are hugely negative consequences to the mass distribution of. I don't know you look at the consequences of the last 10+ years of disinformation campaigns by media, politicians and other prominent public figure with large followings, especially the disinformation spread during COVID and think "no big deal" when the second-most prominent politician in the country, who garnered 40% of the popular vote, is actively spreading garbage. Jfc.

[PepsiFree]

I don’t even know how someone could actually come to believe something like that unless it was their literal first time hearing of misinformation.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Not sure if this was posted already because I didn't have the time to wade through dozens of essays on Canada Post, but Christ, what a ####ing loser.

Clearly hasn't learned a thing from the election.

https://x.com/PierrePoilievre/status...JvBMHamOg&s=19

I used to be very pro Israel. but their descent into genocide and their actions and intentions regarding gaza and the west bank are indefensible and beyond what I can articulate in how disgusted I am.

If you have a party and leader that is supporting that, they can rot in hell and never have my support.

Does anyone actually believe that "If they just give back remaining hostages and quit fighting" Israel wouldn't still continue their plan to eliminate the Palistine people and steal all the land for themselves?

I also have no doubt that the Conservatives and PP would do and say whatever the american republicans tell them to.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Oh FFS, please keep it in the Israel Hamas thread.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Locke

So what? He's not in charge. Ergo his misinformation meant nothing.

His misinformation — delivered to his supporters who accept it uncritically — has undoubtedly contributed to the fractures in our political landscape. A certain orange moron started doing the same thing in 2015, and the state of their politics now is a nightmare. The fact that PP hasn’t managed to land our country’s highest office on the back of such misinformation is fortunate, but that doesn’t mean it had no impact and is not worth being concerned over.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I don’t even know how someone could actually come to believe something like that unless it was their literal first time hearing of misinformation.

"That you (he) cant understand that is no surprise."

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

His misinformation — delivered to his supporters who accept it uncritically — has undoubtedly contributed to the fractures in our political landscape. A certain orange moron started doing the same thing in 2015, and the state of their politics now is a nightmare. The fact that PP hasn’t managed to land our country’s highest office on the back of such misinformation is fortunate, but that doesn’t mean it had no impact and is not worth being concerned over.

Ya but he wasn't in charge in 2015 or 2020-24 so it doesn't matter.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Oh FFS, please keep it in the Israel Hamas thread.

When the leader of the official opposition brings it up, it becomes part of Canadian Politics.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

When the leader of the official opposition brings it up, it becomes part of Canadian Politics.

No. This is not Canadian politics:

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

Does anyone actually believe that "If they just give back remaining hostages and quit fighting" Israel wouldn't still continue their plan to eliminate the Palistine people and steal all the land for themselves?

The answer to that question belongs in the other thread where you or anyone else who has so internalized this conflict that you've made it a key element of your personalities can go and hash it out with people similarly obsessed with the issue and absolutely certain that their point of view is the correct one irrespective of side. That thread is an absolute nightmare, and allowing it to leak into other parts of the board will ruin them utterly. It's already messy enough having every fifth post be this:

[Firebot]

Day 1 of parliament, the first of 2025 (insane).

With Liberals confirming that they will not give the NDP official party status despite the pandering (and why would they considering the strength they are in?), the NDP is pretty much an empty hull with zero direction, except for what was some weird all hands on deck attempt to save Singh over the party. CBC reporting that the NDP apparently internally had only one goal this election. Now they have nothing.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jag...tion-1.7542379

One source said, at the doors, NDP supporters made it clear that they were flipping to the Liberals or Conservatives.

Door-knockers log their interactions, and the data gets fed into the NDP campaign apparatus. Despite the dismal support, headquarters leadership doubled down and sent more staff to Burnaby.

The three sources said that the NDP campaign headquarters was emptied on the weekend before election day, which all campaigns tend to do to get out the vote.

But most of the NDP's staff, a full-court press of between 20 and 30, were flown to Burnaby in a last-ditch attempt to save Singh's riding.

"I don't think it was wise to send all those resources," one source who was on the ground said. "I found myself confused."

"It was confusing that we had 24 incumbent seats, but most of us were being sent to Burnaby."

Another source, who worked in a non-B.C. battleground riding, says it seemed like a misuse of campaign resources, especially when other ridings could have used more help.

"I was really shocked at how much they were spending literally on knocking on doors for people out there and paying for meals and hotels," the person said.

All three sources told CBC News the trend is part of a leader-centric approach to campaigning, within all the parties, and which the NDP warned itself against in a debrief of its performance in the 2021 election.

"The NDP is more than just Jagmeet," it says, criticizing that election's campaign.

It's like the only party that decided to actively try to win this election was Liberals (albeit this has more to do with Carney himself) after throwing Trudeau to the curb and seeing the golden opportunity. Poilievre was too busy sticking to the MAGA Jenni Byrne plan than trying to win and lost his seat and the election in the process. And he's out in parliament pretending like nothing happened.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poi...ucus-1.7540215

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Firebot

Day 1 of parliament, the first of 2025 (insane).

With Liberals confirming that they will not give the NDP official party status despite the pandering (and why would they considering the strength they are in?), the NDP is pretty much an empty hull with zero direction, except for what was some weird all hands on deck attempt to save Singh over the party. CBC reporting that the NDP apparently internally had only one goal this election. Now they have nothing.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jag...tion-1.7542379



It's like the only party that decided to actively try to win this election was Liberals (albeit this has more to do with Carney himself) after throwing Trudeau to the curb and seeing the golden opportunity. Poilievre was too busy sticking to the MAGA Jenni Byrne plan than trying to win and lost his seat and the election in the process. And he's out in parliament pretending like nothing happened.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poi...ucus-1.7540215

Carney will absorb all the on the fence Cons and the Libs will have a SuperDuper majority next time.

Like seriously. Scheerasaurus and Pierre the little pest as their leaders. lol!

[Manhattanboy]

So the King visiting Canada as head of state is kinda the Super Bowl for the Governor General’s office. Every kid in junior high in this country knows the King is the Sovereign of Canada.

Except for the General’s Office which puts out an official tweet welcoming His Majesty and looking forward to dialogue between our two countries. What idiots. They think he’s here representing Great Britain. Unbelievable. Who hires these morons?

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

So the King visiting Canada as head of state is kinda the Super Bowl for the Governor General’s office. Every kid in junior high in this country knows the King is the Sovereign of Canada.

Except for the General’s Office which puts out an official tweet welcoming His Majesty and looking forward to dialogue between our two countries. What idiots. They think he’s here representing Great Britain. Unbelievable. Who hires these morons?

To paraphrase Pierre Trudeau over an incident once at 24 Sussex, the moron probably got the job because they spoke French.

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by Firebot

Day 1 of parliament, the first of 2025 (insane).

With Liberals confirming that they will not give the NDP official party status despite the pandering (and why would they considering the strength they are in?), the NDP is pretty much an empty hull with zero direction, except for what was some weird all hands on deck attempt to save Singh over the party. CBC reporting that the NDP apparently internally had only one goal this election. Now they have nothing.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jag...tion-1.7542379



It's like the only party that decided to actively try to win this election was Liberals (albeit this has more to do with Carney himself) after throwing Trudeau to the curb and seeing the golden opportunity. Poilievre was too busy sticking to the MAGA Jenni Byrne plan than trying to win and lost his seat and the election in the process. And he's out in parliament pretending like nothing happened.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poi...ucus-1.7540215

Clearly that was a mandate from leadership and executives to save his seat. I had high hopes for Singh at the start but this guy has been one epic fail after another. There's useless and then there is Singh NDP as leader useless. I don't understand how anybody can actually defend this guy running that party into the ground. Party may be a stretch, more like a car full of political people going for coffee.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

So the King visiting Canada as head of state is kinda the Super Bowl for the Governor General’s office. Every kid in junior high in this country knows the King is the Sovereign of Canada.

Except for the General’s Office which puts out an official tweet welcoming His Majesty and looking forward to dialogue between our two countries. What idiots. They think he’s here representing Great Britain. Unbelievable. Who hires these morons?

We really need to get rid of this monarchy stuff. It’s silly. Someone walking around calling themselves king lol.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

We really need to get rid of this monarchy stuff. It’s silly. Someone walking around calling themselves king lol.

Given the state of affairs down south not sure going the republic route is the best idea.

[calgarygeologist]

King Charles and Queen Didulo need to set up a fight to the death to figure out who is the head of State for Canada.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

King Charles and Queen Didulo need to set up a fight to the death to figure out who is the head of State for Canada.

Oh gees. I almost forgot about her. Is she still harassing some small community in Saskatchewan?