05-23-2025, 10:19 AM
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#15181
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Franchise Player
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I would much rather get picks in 26 and 27. We already have 2 1st rounders in this draft and it is a weaker draft.
Also gives you more capital to trade if the team gets better to add the big fish.
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05-23-2025, 10:22 AM
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#15183
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: In my office...is it 5:00 yet???
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Coleman - no immediate rush to deal him but the clock starts ticking in season. I think Coleman has been a very solid free agent signing and a better version of Frolik. His reputation is solid and he would be a huge get for any contending team looking for 2 runs. I think he becomes a huge trade piece for the Flames at the deadline if the team is out of the race. At 50% retained for 2 runs at $2.45M he could get the flames a bigger return than Andersson
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This is a great post overall, and I agree with everything you said. For Coleman, if the Flames are out of the playoff picture next season (still pretty realistic), I have a feeling Conroy will put the ball in Coleman's court to see if he wants to chase a cup, and if so, will deal him to a contender at the deadline. He should get a good return, maybe not a 1st rounder though as sometimes wingers don't get that type of return. Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if the Flames might have a handshake to have Coleman come back for another contract, even if traded at the deadline. Coleman and his wife seem to love this city and the surrounding area.
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05-23-2025, 10:23 AM
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#15184
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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It depends on where the pick is.
If the pick is in that 8-15 range then take the pick this year.
If the pick is 19 or later (ie behind the Flames current pick at 18) then I'd rather have the pick in 2026 or 2027 as those are supposed to be the deeper drafts.
Nobody is trading unprotected picks in 2026 or 2027 IMO, they will all be top 10 protected. So if you can get the top 15 pick this year then you take that now IMO.
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05-23-2025, 10:30 AM
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#15185
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
It depends on where the pick is.
If the pick is in that 8-15 range then take the pick this year.
If the pick is 19 or later (ie behind the Flames current pick at 18) then I'd rather have the pick in 2026 or 2027 as those are supposed to be the deeper drafts.
Nobody is trading unprotected picks in 2026 or 2027 IMO, they will all be top 10 protected. So if you can get the top 15 pick this year then you take that now IMO.
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For me it's a chance to get O'Brien or McQueen or future picks.
Lots of good players past the top 10, but 2 cracks at those types of players is enough IMO. Maybe 11 or 12 gives you a crack at someone that slips, but I would trade up if the player you want is on the board.
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05-23-2025, 10:33 AM
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#15186
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
It depends on where the pick is.
If the pick is in that 8-15 range then take the pick this year.
If the pick is 19 or later (ie behind the Flames current pick at 18) then I'd rather have the pick in 2026 or 2027 as those are supposed to be the deeper drafts.
Nobody is trading unprotected picks in 2026 or 2027 IMO, they will all be top 10 protected. So if you can get the top 15 pick this year then you take that now IMO.
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Just trade Ras to the Leafs for their 2028 1st and their 2025 and 2027 2nd round picks. Brad gets a dman and we relieve him of any first round picks in the next 4 years and any second round picks in the next 3 years. It would complete his work in Toronto
In
Carlo
McCabe (before him)
Laughton
Ras
out
2025 1st
2026 1st
2027 1st
2028 1st
2025 2nd
2026 2nd
2027 2nd
Minten
Grebenkin
Then sign Marner with some of the cap space saved.
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05-23-2025, 12:25 PM
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#15187
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#1 Goaltender
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Bleacher report listing
Canadiens
Flames
Ducks
Hawks
Mammoth
Wild
As potential spots for Lafreniere
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05-23-2025, 12:30 PM
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#15188
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbull8
Bleacher report listing
Canadiens
Flames
Ducks
Hawks
Mammoth
Wild
As potential spots for Lafreniere
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My son is a Rangers fan, and I was telling him the other day if they want to fix their situation, they need to trade LaFreniere.
Don't mid the idea to go get him, but it would be good if it involved vets going back but still prefer just going for picks.
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05-23-2025, 12:31 PM
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#15189
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jason14h
No the worse case you surrender assets in picks and prospects , these players don’t improve or regress , and you have a bunch of 15 - 20 goal scorers who are now 27-28 making 5-6 million and less prospect pipeline while missing playoffs
Frosts and Pintos and Rossis of the NHL are available for a reason . You better be sure what you are trading for , especially giving up picks or prospects
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These magic beans could be anything -- like Frosts or Pintos or Rossis!
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05-23-2025, 12:44 PM
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#15190
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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If Lafreniere is on the market I don't see a world where is not Montreal that trades for him.
They have the assets and will want to bring him in for sure.
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05-23-2025, 12:50 PM
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#15191
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Franchise Player
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I would love Lafreniere on this team, even if he is a winger. I think he will become a game changer. I don't see it happening, however - the Rangers already sold low on Kaako last year - who also seemed to blossom after the trade.
I would see how Lafreniere responds under Sullivan first before I trade him away. The Rangers are so dysfunctional - Lafreniere's rookie season was 20-21, and Sullivan will be his 4th coach. At any rate, dependent on the price, I would love to have Lafreniere here. I really think there is a lot more under the surface there and that he can really blossom into a good player. I don't think he will ever live up to the hype of a 1st overall player, but if Calgary acquired him, I would feel confident in saying that Calgary just acquired another core piece to add to their future core of Parekh and Wolf.
I doubt the rumor has any legs, but if true, will be interesting to see what he ends up going for on the market.
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05-23-2025, 01:00 PM
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#15192
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Why would the Flames grab Laf? Spending assets for another left shot LW? I know he's just hit his stride finally but meh.
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05-23-2025, 01:02 PM
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#15193
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Why would the Flames grab Laf? Spending assets for another left shot LW? I know he's just hit his stride finally but meh.
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Because they need an influx of young talent?
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05-23-2025, 01:26 PM
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#15194
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Because they need an influx of young talent?
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LHS LW is the second strongest position in the organization in terms of depth. I'd prefer if they spent any perceived valuable assets towards addressing weaker areas of their depth, like Center or LHD.
That's not an unreasonable preference.
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05-23-2025, 01:41 PM
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#15195
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
LHS LW is the second strongest position in the organization in terms of depth. I'd prefer if they spent any perceived valuable assets towards addressing weaker areas of their depth, like Center of LHD.
That's not an unreasonable preference.
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The reason why I'm interested is because it's the Rangers. They can sign players, and they might do a big overhaul to win now.
Rasmus and Coleman could be high on their list to add. Rasmus at 50% retained might be very interesting to them.
Contract talks of RFA's could play a part in decisions too. Cuyle might be a better fit and if they are going to pay him, they might want an increased opportunity for him. Miller might want big money too. Their cap situation is tight too so adding Rasmus @ $2 mil for a year helps them figure things out.
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05-23-2025, 01:44 PM
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#15196
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Franchise Player
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Feels like any player can be listed and they will automatically link the Flames to them with zero thought.
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05-23-2025, 01:46 PM
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#15197
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Feels like any player can be listed and they will automatically link the Flames to them with zero thought.
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Yeah, the Flames have lots of cap space and are looking to improve, so they’re going to be included by default in trade speculation.
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05-23-2025, 01:55 PM
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#15198
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Yeah, the Flames have lots of cap space and are looking to improve, so they’re going to be included by default in trade speculation.
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I think they are trying to improve one area.
I do think that Conroy understands we need stars regardless and that is why he probably had Rantanen #1 on his list of guys to chase.
I don’t think he will be dabbling around the edges for the sake of making a move and we have cap space.
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05-23-2025, 02:18 PM
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#15199
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I think they are trying to improve one area.
I do think that Conroy understands we need stars regardless and that is why he probably had Rantanen #1 on his list of guys to chase.
I don’t think he will be dabbling around the edges for the sake of making a move and we have cap space.
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I agree, but I doubt Conroy sees Lafreniere as dabbling around the edges.
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05-23-2025, 02:52 PM
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#15200
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Yeah it really depends what the scouts think Lafreniere is.
Is he the 20 goal and 45 point guy like he's averaged to this point of his career.
Or do they think he still has the star potential that saw him go 1st overall.
Personally I've just never seen it from him in the NHL and his development seemed to stagnate after junior. Maybe he pops a little more and gets to a 60-65 point guy, but I don't see him as a PPG first line player.
It's interesting to me that he had 46 NHLe in his final junior season, and that's kind of what he's averaged in the NHL in his career so far.
To me it kind of feels like that's what he is. I personally wouldn't be moving for him unless the Rangers were selling low and treating it like a cap dump, but even then I think Montreal would just outbid you for him then.
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