Check the actualevidence. What is alleged is a single solitary "spank" on her bare buttocks. 🙂#↕️ Ur outrage and threatening to beat him up for it is laughable.
This whole case is a joke and should never have been brought to trial which will be one more and more evident when the defense presents their case.
I guarantee you they are all acquitted and the judge will in fact suggest this should never have even been brought to trial.
The typical over reaction(and threatening violence on them over your keyboard is e embarrasing) and presuming of guilt here and on many forums is an example of typical over reaction and woke indoctrination that is exactly why trump got elected in the USA and pp wasn't far off from winning here.
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You might not like it but a lot of people agree with me but are afraid to go against the grain and challenge the status quo of the woman is always innocent and every man accused is guilty which is not reality. But anyone who knows the real story here knows this case is absolutely a trial driven by money and only because they are well known hockey players and public sentiment against hockey Canada and young famous men.
Well everyone, we might as well wrap this thread up. "Woke indoctrination" is at fault and it's so obvious!
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Check the actual evidence. What is alleged is a single solitary "spank" on her bare buttocks. ��#↕️ Ur outrage and threatening to beat him up for it is laughable.
This whole case is a joke and should never have been brought to trial which will be one more and more evident when the defense presents their case.
Their was a reason the London police originally chose not to even press charges.
When you have not one but two videos of her very soberly saying she consented to and extremely consistent testimony from you very one in the room that she was asking for them to f her and to give them head the idea that a single smack on the butt is assault is ridiculous.
And yeah I saw the text message too. You really don't think that was a stupid 18 yr old kid just being hyperbolic in a message to a buddy your also out to lunch
I guarantee you they are all acquitted and the judge will in fact suggest this should never have even been brought to trial.
The typical over reaction(and threatening violence on them over your keyboard is e embarrasing) and presuming of guilt here and on many forums is an example of typical over reaction and woke indoctrination that is exactly why trump got elected in the USA and pp wasn't far off from winning here. . Did they have poor judgment in even entertaining what she was asking for. Sure they did. Is it criminal sexual assault. No way no how.
Go back to your Andrew Tate fansite.
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But anyone who knows the real story here knows this case is absolutely a trial driven by money and only because they are well known hockey players and public sentiment against hockey Canada and young famous men.
Sounds like someone who was in the text message group
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I'm a tonne of fun at a party trust me. I think some of you haven't ever been at a real party or been with a woman ir gotten out of your mom's basement. Any world that considers one smack on the butt equivalent to actual violent sexual assault and rape have lived a very sheltered and indoctrinated life.
You might not like it but a lot of people agree with me but are afraid to go against the grain and challenge the status quo of the woman is always innocent and every man accused is guilty which is not reality. No one is suggesting real sexual assault and rape should be fully prosecuted. But anyone who knows the real story here knows this case is absolutely a trial driven by money and only because they are well known hockey players and public sentiment against hockey Canada and young famous men.
Come back to me after the trial is over and let's see what happens.
a. The woman got a settlement and will get nothing from this trial. So this trials is not and cannot be about money.
b. These guys are hockey players but mostly not "well-known".
c. In what world was there public sentiment against Hockey Canada and young famous men before this came out?
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I will say that with the evidence that has been presented thus far, this doesn't sound like a very strong case and my expectations have changed.
I am not suggesting bad things didn't occur but initially a large settlement was paid and those don't occur very easily unless it's really bad. Initially when there was talk about a golf club in the room, I had flashbacks to the scenario with the Blackhawks coach and Kyle Beach about the baseball bat. A weapon so to speak being used to rape someone but that hasn't been presented.
Thus far a lot of things look like a toss up for both sides. You can fault the players for a whole host of things but then the victim can also be questioned for some things as well.
I was expecting bombshells to be dropped, complete police incompetency and a cash coverup from Hockey Canada to hide a brutal, physical rape.
What I’m getting out of this trial so far is that the crown is focused on the “butt smack” and the tea bagging as there is no mention anywhere of consent for these acts. Dubé and Foote will be the two who are found guilty. With all the went on, these two violations may seem the least “severe” but if EM did not ask to be spanked, and did not ask to be tea bagged, these two are guilty. If she did if fact ask for sex and offered oral, and is an exhibitionist, the charges Mr against other players will be dismissed.
It will be interesting to see what sort of sentences a smack on the butt and a tea bag (naked or in underwear yet to be determined) bring.
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What I’m getting out of this trial so far is that the crown is focused on the “butt smack” and the tea bagging as there is no mention anywhere of consent for these acts. Dubé and Foote will be the two who are found guilty. With all the went on, these two violations may seem the least “severe” but if EM did not ask to be spanked, and did not ask to be tea bagged, these two are guilty. If she did if fact ask for sex and offered oral, and is an exhibitionist, the charges Mr against other players will be dismissed.
It will be interesting to see what sort of sentences a smack on the butt and a tea bag (naked or in underwear yet to be determined) bring.
Dube is also accused of obtaining oral sex without consent. Not just the slap.
Just thinking aloud here, but if you're brought up to stick up for women and see a woman in trouble and you just leave the room.... would be embarrassing to admit it to your dad, that you didn't help.
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Almost like that would be relevant to include in your answer to the prosecutor if you were hypothetically brought up like that.
What I’m getting out of this trial so far is that the crown is focused on the “butt smack” and the tea bagging as there is no mention anywhere of consent for these acts. Dubé and Foote will be the two who are found guilty. With all the went on, these two violations may seem the least “severe” but if EM did not ask to be spanked, and did not ask to be tea bagged, these two are guilty. If she did if fact ask for sex and offered oral, and is an exhibitionist, the charges Mr against other players will be dismissed.
It will be interesting to see what sort of sentences a smack on the butt and a tea bag (naked or in underwear yet to be determined) bring.
Well Dube allegedly beat the #### out of her ass. Whether that counts as a “butt smack” I don’t know. Let’s see what the other Crown witnesses have to say. Not sure why you call it a smack on the butt when the contemporaneous evidence says it was an ass whooping.
Well Dube allegedly beat the #### out of her ass. Whether that counts as a “butt smack” I don’t know. Let’s see what the other Crown witnesses have to say. Not sure why you call it a smack on the butt when the contemporaneous evidence says it was an ass whooping.
Because that’s what I’ve read happened, and that’s what the witnesses are stating happened, following along with the CBC reports. Never once have I read “beat the **** out of her ass”.
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Because that’s what I’ve read happened, and that’s what the witnesses are stating happened, following along with the CBC reports. Never once have I read “beat the **** out of her ass”.
Dude, I'm so happy I left when all the #### went down haha. When I was leaving, Duber was smacking this girl's ass so hard, like it looked like it hurt so bad.
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Dude, I'm so happy I left when all the #### went down haha. When I was leaving, Duber was smacking this girl's ass so hard, like it looked like it hurt so bad.
The more incriminating statement to me is when he texted that she was kind of weeping. Saying it looked like it hurt doesn't make it a fact that it did hurt. It also doesn't mean something was or wasn't consensual. It's not unreasonable to think it wasn't and I would lean that way, but it's not necessarily proof that it wasn't. I didn't see it reported that the accuser said that it hurt so bad when it happened (maybe it was reported and I missed it), but she did say that she was crying which makes Howden's statement about weeping more of an eye opener IMO.
Saying she was kind of or sort of weeping isn't exactly a definitive statement either because it sounds uncertain like he wasn't clear about it. But if it was weeping, that definitely points towards non-consensual because weeping or crying is an obvious signal that you want out of the situation. Pain on the other hand could be an unwanted consequence of a consensual act, assuming he was correct that it did hurt or he wasn't exaggerating in his text.
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I think everyone should read this, if they haven't.
Canadian junior hockey players have been the subject in at least 15 group sexual assault cases since 1989.
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In total, at least 50 players have been accused in the alleged crimes, with 25 eventually charged, The Fifth Estate has found. Only one of those charged has been convicted, after taking a plea deal to a lesser offence.
I have no idea what verdict may result from this trial, but if the publicity reduces this type of abhorrent behavior it is successful. It's not an easy read, but is a must read
i've been on the other end of this hosing when i was fighting my old employer. My lawyer told me that while annoying, take solace in knowing that my old employer's lawyer was pretty useless and was likely billing them insanely high. lol
A lawyer only has his time to make money.
Why wouldn't he bill for every phone call, email etc.?
Because that’s what I’ve read happened, and that’s what the witnesses are stating happened, following along with the CBC reports. Never once have I read “beat the **** out of her ass”.
No, CBC has reported that Dube beat the #### out of her ass, the witnesses at the time the incident happened said he beat the #### out of her ass. It was only after the coordinating group chat that it became a light gentlemen’s tap of the buttocks.
