2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Jiri Hrdina]

Deal!

[CliffFletcher]

A lot of head coaches are better the second time around. There’s a reason Cooper snatched him up as an assistant in Tampa. Blashill has a reputation as a very good developmental guy. That’s what they’ll need for a few more years yet - most of the players who are going to be sticking around are still 18-23 years old.

GMs can’t really win with their coaching hires, can they? The previous four head coaches in Chicago were all first-time hires. So they’ve gone the ‘up and comer breaking into the league’ route. If they had hired a Tocchet or Laviollete, people would complain about recycled coaches and the old boys network.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Would anyone trade 18th overall + 32nd overall for Rossi?

Is that too much? Is it enough?

I would.
I think this draft kinda stinks.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Would anyone trade 18th overall + 32nd overall for Rossi?

Is that too much? Is it enough?

The odds of either of those picks turning into players as good as Rossi are low. But there’s a small chance they could nab an even better player with them. So it’s a matter of how much you want to gamble.

I would probably do it. Not sure the Wild would. They’re gearing up to contend, and those picks aren’t going to help with that unless they turn around and deal them for other assets. More likely the Wild are looking for a hockey trade.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Would anyone trade 18th overall + 32nd overall for Rossi?

Is that too much? Is it enough?

I think I would.

I do worry about having too small of a forward core though.

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Originally Posted by Royle9

Andersson + 32nd for Rossi
Or 32nd + Pospisil

Gimme either of these.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Why has Minny put Rossi on the trade block? He has improved.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Why has Minny put Rossi on the trade block? He has improved.

Could be for a good reason, could be for a not-so-good reason. GMs are weird sometimes.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Why has Minny put Rossi on the trade block? He has improved.

They haven't officially, but the Wild need cap space for Kaprizov's next contract and Rossi himself will be due for a big one as well.

Just simply a case of cant afford both.
Wild would likely want big pieces either way, or someone can offer sheet him as hes an RFA.

I'll add there's apparently a ton of interest in him via trade, so I doubt an offer sheet is even reasonable at this point.
Offer sheet would cost a 1st + 3rd at the very minimum so value needs to be beyond that.

Vancouver, Philly, Pittsburgh all have serious interest.
Vancouver apparently is willing to move pick 15+ for him so my 32nd + Pospisil its clearly way off base

[Leeman4Gilmour]

Originally Posted by Royle9

They haven't officially, but the Wild need cap space for Kaprizov's next contract and Rossi himself will be due for a big one as well.

Just simply a case of cant afford both.
Wild would likely want big pieces either way, or someone can offer sheet him as hes an RFA.

That doesn't track. Wild have $19.5MM with 16/23 roster spots filled for next year. Only 'big' name to re-sign is Rossi. Then the cap jumps up another $8.5MM when Kaprizov's contract is up for renewal. I don't see any cap issues with the Wild going forward. At least not enough to suggest they 'need' to move Rossi for cap reasons.

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by Royle9

They haven't officially, but the Wild need cap space for Kaprizov's next contract and Rossi himself will be due for a big one as well.

Just simply a case of cant afford both.
Wild would likely want big pieces either way, or someone can offer sheet him as hes an RFA.

I'll add there's apparently a ton of interest in him via trade, so I doubt an offer sheet is even reasonable at this point.
Offer sheet would cost a 1st + 3rd at the very minimum so value needs to be beyond that.

Vancouver, Philly, Pittsburgh all have serious interest.
Vancouver apparently is willing to move pick 15+ for him so my 32nd + Pospisil its clearly way off base

I'm not a capologist but they have Suter's and Parise's cap hit dropping off significantly next year.

Do they really need that much cap space to clear?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Why has Minny put Rossi on the trade block? He has improved.

I think it is because he is small and he got demoted to the 4th line in playoffs

[dammage79]

Well Rossi won't be a Flame at that cost.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Leeman4Gilmour

That doesn't track. Wild have $19.5MM with 16/23 roster spots filled for next year. Only 'big' name to re-sign is Rossi. Then the cap jumps up another $8.5MM when Kaprizov's contract is up for renewal. I don't see any cap issues with the Wild going forward. At least not enough to suggest they 'need' to move Rossi for cap reasons.

Kaprizov is going to be paid, he's going to eat up at least 11-12M of that space long term.
Rossi's camp was looking for upwards of 7.5+ long term, and the Wild just aren't comfortable with it as they don't want both players taking up 22-24M in cap space.
Billy called his season an outlier and doesn't think he's worth more than what they offered.

Rossi's camp was upset that the Wild lowballed him long term at a rumored 5x5 so they countered with a bridge deal of 2 years at a higher AAV and it was shot down.
Add in the demotion in the playoffs from top 6 to 4th line center with very little playing time, and you've got a recipe for 2 sides who would rather move on.

Originally Posted by albertGQ

I'm not a capologist but they have Suter's and Parise's cap hit dropping off significantly next year.
Do they really need that much cap space to clear?

They have quite a few holes to fill (5), specifically in the top 9 and a backup goalie.
The money adds up quick, that space will deteriorate when shopping in the UFA market this summer.
Could they fit him? Yea they could probably find a way to make it work if they really wanted, but from what I've heard they'd much rather flip him than pay him 7.5+

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[Leeman4Gilmour]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Kaprizov is going to be paid, he's going to eat up at least 11-12M of that space long term. Rossi's camp was looking for upwards of 7.5+ long term, and the Wild just aren't comfortable with it.

Rossi's camp was upset that the Wild lowballed him long term at a rumored 5x5 so they countered with a bridge deal of 2 years at a higher AAV and it was shot down.

Add in the demotion in the playoffs from top 6 to 4th line center with very little playing time, and you've got a recipe for 2 sides who would rather move on.

Don't disagree on those numbers. Kaprizov might even get more. Sounds like a perceived value issue, not a cap issue. Although, maybe the Wild is one of the teams who will have an internal cap less than the actual cap.

[TheScorpion]

I like Rossi but I don't like him enough to move 2 1sts for him. And I suspect MIN would move him for less.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Leeman4Gilmour

Don't disagree on those numbers. Kaprizov might even get more. Sounds like a perceived value issue, not a cap issue. Although, maybe the Wild is one of the teams who will have an internal cap less than the actual cap.

Yea, its very likely Kaprizov could get PAID and be made one of the top paid wingers in the league but to keep it somewhat fair I went on the low end.

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I like Rossi but I don't like him enough to move 2 1sts for him. And I suspect MIN would move him for less.

Two 1st's is far too much at this point for Calgary.

They don't want prospects, so you'd move a roster player + pick (figure out what you'd be most comfortable with)
There are 2 teams (Vancouver and Philly who are rumored to be willing to use their 1st)

[Vinny01]

What do people think about Zary+ for Rossi?

Same age and I think somewhat similar upside. Rossi is more proven and Zary has injury concerns. Flames can afford to give Rossi the $7-8M he wants and Zary is poised for a short term bridge. Ideally you have both players but curious if anyone is into that deal? I am not even sure myself because I like Zary a lot but I am also a big fan of Rossi since his draft year and you have to give to get

[Monahammer]

I would trade both the 1sts for Rossi.

I wonder if Zary + 18th would sniff at McTavish if he's really available.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I like Rossi but I don't like him enough to move 2 1sts for him. And I suspect MIN would move him for less.

Hard bargain but fine, let’s do less!