05-21-2025, 09:30 PM
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#15061
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
I can tell you right now, that Ottawa wants Andersson more than Calgary wants Pinto.
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Sweet. Pay up then!
I don't think much of their prospect base so gotta be picks.
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05-21-2025, 10:02 PM
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#15062
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
I can tell you right now, that Ottawa wants Andersson more than Calgary wants Pinto.
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I’m guessing Conroy would be insisting on Cozens. The number 21 pick isn’t super attractive in this draft and with no pick next year the Sens aren’t likely to move it.
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05-21-2025, 10:21 PM
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#15063
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto, ON
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How about Chabot and picks then?
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05-21-2025, 10:21 PM
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#15064
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First Line Centre
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Now that Ken Holland is GM of the Kings have to think Conroy tries to see if he can swindle Byfield from the Kings. Something around Andersson and Zary?
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05-21-2025, 10:45 PM
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#15065
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Is Cozens really that much better of an option then Pinto?
Similar pro rated production, but Cozens has more GP. Same age. Same size.
Outside of the one really productive year from Cozens, Pinto has been the more productive player and with much less opportunity.
Cozens is also way more expensive.
Pinto is a similar caliber of player to Zary. Would we really be upset to get that returned in a Rasmus deal?
1st + Pinto for Rasmus + small add seems like a fair deal for both sides.
I would take 1st + Pinto over Cozens
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05-21-2025, 10:51 PM
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#15066
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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I'd take Pinto and Kleven for Andersson if they don't want to move the pick.
A 6'3" RH skilled center that had good underlying play driving metrics and a 6'5" LH dman that looked great for Ottawa in the second half of the season and in the playoffs.
Could do worse than that....
Pinto + 21
Pinto + Kleven
Kleven + 21
I'd be okay with any of those packages although I'd prefer 13 OV + something else from Detroit.
The goal though should be to get Detroit and Ottawa in bidding war...maybe Buffalo too. All three teams in the same division battling for that final playoff spot in the Atlantic.
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 05-21-2025 at 10:56 PM.
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05-21-2025, 11:06 PM
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#15067
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Looking rationally at potential Andersson suitors:
Detroit: Need a top 4 dman and pressure to take the next step
Ottawa: Same as Detroit
Buffalo: lots of LH dmen, no real RH dman in the top 4, Bryam reportedly on the block
Columbus: Losing Provorov to UFA likely, some need for a top 4 dman
Boston: Could use a top 4 RH dman, accumlated picks at the deadline
Philly: 3 1st round picks, could use a dman
Florida: If Ekblad leaves they have a big hole at RH dman.
Getting the Atlantic teams (Detroit, Ottawa, Buffalo, Boston, and maybe Florida) into a bidding war here seems like the move to me. Lots of those teams need a RH dman and have some attractive assets. Need to play them against one another.
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05-21-2025, 11:19 PM
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#15068
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I'd take Pinto and Kleven for Andersson if they don't want to move the pick.
A 6'3" RH skilled center that had good underlying play driving metrics and a 6'5" LH dman that looked great for Ottawa in the second half of the season and in the playoffs.
Could do worse than that....
Pinto + 21
Pinto + Kleven
Kleven + 21
I'd be okay with any of those packages although I'd prefer 13 OV + something else from Detroit.
And Kleven is 6'0".
I know that decimal inches are BS, but we must read what is written as it is written.
The goal though should be to get Detroit and Ottawa in bidding war...maybe Buffalo too. All three teams in the same division battling for that final playoff spot in the Atlantic.
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But Pinto isn't 6'3". He's 6'0". Which is fine. But he isn't a BIG RH shot center, he's an average size RH shot center. And Klevin isn't 6'5". He's listed at 6,05 ft.
Last edited by simonsays; 05-21-2025 at 11:29 PM.
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05-21-2025, 11:24 PM
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#15069
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Looking rationally at potential Andersson suitors:
Detroit: Need a top 4 dman and pressure to take the next step
Ottawa: Same as Detroit
Buffalo: lots of LH dmen, no real RH dman in the top 4, Bryam reportedly on the block
Columbus: Losing Provorov to UFA likely, some need for a top 4 dman
Boston: Could use a top 4 RH dman, accumlated picks at the deadline
Philly: 3 1st round picks, could use a dman
Florida: If Ekblad leaves they have a big hole at RH dman.
Getting the Atlantic teams (Detroit, Ottawa, Buffalo, Boston, and maybe Florida) into a bidding war here seems like the move to me. Lots of those teams need a RH dman and have some attractive assets. Need to play them against one another.
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Philly is interesting they also have four second rounders but i have no idea what they plan moving forward?
Ya philly has 6,22,30,36,40,45,48,68.
Pile of draft capital if they want to improve.
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05-22-2025, 06:06 AM
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#15070
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by simonsays
But Pinto isn't 6'3". He's 6'0". Which is fine. But he isn't a BIG RH shot center, he's an average size RH shot center. And Klevin isn't 6'5". He's listed at 6,05 ft.
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6,05 is a common way to write 6'5. You can go look at some giants like Klapka or Markstrom's page for reference.
Last edited by Flames1217; 05-22-2025 at 06:58 AM.
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05-22-2025, 07:22 AM
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#15071
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Scoring Winger
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Anderson screams Detroit Red Wings. They enjoy their Swedes and have lots of young toys to part with.
Larkin is a local boy there I believe but didn't seem happy. They need to turn the page or at some point he quietly asks for a trade, even though he has a new contract.
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05-22-2025, 07:47 AM
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#15072
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by traptor
Is Cozens really that much better of an option then Pinto?
Similar pro rated production, but Cozens has more GP. Same age. Same size.
Outside of the one really productive year from Cozens, Pinto has been the more productive player and with much less opportunity.
Cozens is also way more expensive.
Pinto is a similar caliber of player to Zary. Would we really be upset to get that returned in a Rasmus deal?
1st + Pinto for Rasmus + small add seems like a fair deal for both sides.
I would take 1st + Pinto over Cozens
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Not sure I agree, Cozens had 16 pts in 21 games after coming over from Buffalo. That shows it was a pretty good chance he just needs a fresh start.
The value between Zary and Pinto is debatable. Can't see a reason how the Flames need to add on a deal where its Pinto and 2025 1st (21st overall) in return.
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05-22-2025, 07:49 AM
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#15073
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CFO
Anderson screams Detroit Red Wings. They enjoy their Swedes and have lots of young toys to part with.
Larkin is a local boy there I believe but didn't seem happy. They need to turn the page or at some point he quietly asks for a trade, even though he has a new contract.
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Andersson may not be a fan of that city.
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05-22-2025, 07:52 AM
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#15074
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by simonsays
But Pinto isn't 6'3". He's 6'0". Which is fine. But he isn't a BIG RH shot center, he's an average size RH shot center. And Klevin isn't 6'5". He's listed at 6,05 ft.
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Pinto is 6'3" and Kleven is 6'5"
When it's written as 6.03 and 6.05 on hockey DB they aren't measuring to the tenth of an inch.
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05-22-2025, 09:02 AM
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#15075
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Looking rationally at potential Andersson suitors:
Detroit: Need a top 4 dman and pressure to take the next step
Ottawa: Same as Detroit
Buffalo: lots of LH dmen, no real RH dman in the top 4, Bryam reportedly on the block
Columbus: Losing Provorov to UFA likely, some need for a top 4 dman
Boston: Could use a top 4 RH dman, accumlated picks at the deadline
Philly: 3 1st round picks, could use a dman
Florida: If Ekblad leaves they have a big hole at RH dman.
Getting the Atlantic teams (Detroit, Ottawa, Buffalo, Boston, and maybe Florida) into a bidding war here seems like the move to me. Lots of those teams need a RH dman and have some attractive assets. Need to play them against one another.
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Philly are still in a rebuild and not looking to sign a guy Andersson’s age to term.
Sandin Pellikka, Detroit’s top prospect and one of the best D prospects hockey, is an RD. And Seider seems to have settled in as an RD on a top pairing with Edvisson. So signing Andersson to a long-term deal poses some roster challenges.
If Burns retires or isn’t re-signed (he regressed badly this season), you can add Carolina to the list. Andersson fits their playstyle.
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Last edited by CliffFletcher; 05-22-2025 at 09:04 AM.
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05-22-2025, 09:16 AM
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#15076
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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Why is everyone so obsessed with a 25 year old player (Pinto) who hasn't even hit 40 points in his career? Give me a high ceiling, younger prospect any day over that.
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05-22-2025, 09:18 AM
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#15077
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: PEI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Andersson may not be a fan of that city.
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Because the city sucks? Or because he got hit by a car there?
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05-22-2025, 09:23 AM
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#15078
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Looking rationally at potential Andersson suitors:
Detroit: Need a top 4 dman and pressure to take the next step
Ottawa: Same as Detroit
Buffalo: lots of LH dmen, no real RH dman in the top 4, Bryam reportedly on the block
Columbus: Losing Provorov to UFA likely, some need for a top 4 dman
Boston: Could use a top 4 RH dman, accumlated picks at the deadline
Philly: 3 1st round picks, could use a dman
Florida: If Ekblad leaves they have a big hole at RH dman.
Getting the Atlantic teams (Detroit, Ottawa, Buffalo, Boston, and maybe Florida) into a bidding war here seems like the move to me. Lots of those teams need a RH dman and have some attractive assets. Need to play them against one another.
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The nice thing about those teams is that, except Florida, they all have potential to be underachieving teams whose draft picks end up fairly high.
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05-22-2025, 09:23 AM
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#15079
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Andersson may not be a fan of that city.
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"Hey Rasmus, it's your childhood idol Nick Lidstrom. Stevie and I really want you to come play in Detroit"
I think his feelings probably change pretty quick.
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05-22-2025, 09:31 AM
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#15080
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mdubz
Why is everyone so obsessed with a 25 year old player (Pinto) who hasn't even hit 40 points in his career? Give me a high ceiling, younger prospect any day over that.
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Such as? Toss a name out. People are just speculating.
Teams aren't handing out high ceiling young prospects though.
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