2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Leeman4Gilmour

That's why I wonder about Zary. When I go through my logic, he's the guy who ends up being the odd man out for a RHS center. I likely value Pospisil more than some though. And, I don't think Conroy is moving anyone out from the leadership group just yet.

Moving Zary before the leadership group would be a mistake IMO.

I think the names that potentially get moved this offseason are Coleman and Andersson.

I don't see Andersson and Conroy aligning on a contract. Andersson is going to want $8.5M+ and Conroy is likely offering the Pionk contract (7 x $7M).

And I think Coleman would like to play for a true contender and they already traded for his replacement in Joel Farabee.

If you move Coleman off the roster, and have Lomberg as 13th forward then it alleviates the winger log jam a little bit.

Huberdeau - Kadri - Coronato
Zary - Frost - Sharangovich
Farabee - Backlund - Klapka
Pospisil - ??? - ???
Lomberg

Plus Stromgren, Honzek, Gridin, Basha, Suniev, Kerins, Ciona, Battaglia as the wingers pushing for spots.

[Tbull8]

Morton, Costco, Stromgren, Kerins, Honzek could all get looks in that 4C spot

[SuperMatt18]

I think if the offer was Pinto + 21 for Andersson I'd take it even with that log jam though, but you'd have to move Coleman for sure in that scenario.

Huberdeau - Kadri - Coronato
Zary - Frost - Sharangovich
Farabee - Pinto - Klapka
Stromgren/Honzek - Backlund - Pospisil
Lomberg

Backlund isn't a 4th line center quite yet and I'd view those bottom 3 lines as being quite fluid and flexible. The guys who are going are going to get the ice time. And with Backlund he's also 36 and would probably benefit from usage that isn't so demanding and you never quite know when his play falls off.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Morton, Costco, Stromgren, Kerins, Honzek could all get looks in that 4C spot

When has Stromgren played center? I don't think I've seen him play this position since being drafted. Same goes for Honzek.

Kerins really should get a longer NHL look though. And Morton, based on his style, would be great in that sort of role. In terms of playoff performance, he's been my favorite Wrangler the past two years.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Coleman is a guy teams overpay for at the deadline. I would keep him for now. No sense in rushing a trade.

I don’t think 21 and Pinto is enough for Andersson. I’d rather get an unprotected 27 1st round pick. This doesn’t seem like the draft to be loading up a bunch of 1st round picks in.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

When has Stromgren played center? I don't think I've seen him play this position since being drafted. Same goes for Honzek.

Kerins really should get a longer NHL look though. And Morton, based on his style, would be great in that sort of role. In terms of playoff performance, he's been my favorite Wrangler the past two years.

Honzek played center for the wranglers at the end of the year. He is also playing center at the world championships.
And I believe Stromgren did during the year as well

[Leeman4Gilmour]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Moving Zary before the leadership group would be a mistake IMO.

I think the names that potentially get moved this offseason are Coleman and Andersson.

I don't see Andersson and Conroy aligning on a contract. Andersson is going to want $8.5M+ and Conroy is likely offering the Pionk contract (7 x $7M).

And I think Coleman would like to play for a true contender and they already traded for his replacement in Joel Farabee.

If you move Coleman off the roster, and have Lomberg as 13th forward then it alleviates the winger log jam a little bit.

Huberdeau - Kadri - Coronato
Zary - Frost - Sharangovich
Farabee - Backlund - Klapka
Pospisil - ??? - ???
Lomberg

Plus Stromgren, Honzek, Gridin, Basha, Suniev, Kerins, Ciona, Battaglia as the wingers pushing for spots.

When I was referring to the leadership group, I was speaking to the forward contingent. I wasn’t clear. I 100% think Andersson gets traded. I’d be shocked if Coleman was though. But, if a forward is acquired for Andersson, a forward from the existing group should be traded. An older player would be ideal. I just think culture is heavily weighted for now and I feel they want another year to firmly establish. Just my opinion.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Coleman is a guy teams overpay for at the deadline. I would keep him for now. No sense in rushing a trade.

I don’t think 21 and Pinto is enough for Andersson. I’d rather get an unprotected 27 1st round pick. This doesn’t seem like the draft to be loading up a bunch of 1st round picks in.

If they don’t trade Coleman now and plan for the deadline then Calgary will be “in contention” / close to playoffs and there’ll be endless justifications on why we can’t maximize asset value then cuz we need him for a playoff push.

If the value is there in a trade today, make it. Trying to time the market is risky and foolish and it’s not like he’s a grade A asset you absolutely have to home run for your franchise’s fortunes.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Untapped? He’s 24 and been in the league 4+ years with a career high 37pts and yet to play a full 82 games due to injury.

If we’re giving up Andersson our undoubtedly top asset, we better be getting more than a Pinto in my opinion.

Anderssons impact 5 on 5 is arguably significantly higher, where as Pinto is a top 9 forward with some injury concern. Don’t get me wrong, I think Pinto is pretty good, but I’m not trading the one guy who should give us another 1st round pick for that kind of return.

Pinto doesn’t make us better today at a loss of Rasmus.
I’d much rather the pick, it holds more value for the future.

Agree to disagree. Pinto is already playing like a 2C at 24 and a good defensive game. I’d love for us to acquire him if possible.

Andersson doesn’t make sense to an 8 year deal compared to someone like Pinto who I’d love on a long term deal. It’s already been said, but we do have a log jam at forward and need to figure that part out.

[Badgers Nose]

Peeps were saying Ras gets a 1st and a 2nd like comparable D trades recently.

Others propose exactly that, Pinto = 2nd and OTT's 1st and peeps say that's not enough.

LOL

I think Flames would take that package in a heartbeat, and it's unlikely that OTT offers it.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Peeps were saying Ras gets a 1st and a 2nd like comparable D trades recently.

Others propose exactly that, Pinto = 2nd and OTT's 1st and peeps say that's not enough.

LOL

I think Flames would take that package in a heartbeat, and it's unlikely that OTT offers it.

I think at this point most teams know if they want Anderson whoever puts the best center in the package will probably get him.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I think if the offer was Pinto + 21 for Andersson I'd take it even with that log jam though, but you'd have to move Coleman for sure in that scenario.

Huberdeau - Kadri - Coronato
Zary - Frost - Sharangovich
Farabee - Pinto - Klapka
Stromgren/Honzek - Backlund - Pospisil
Lomberg

Backlund isn't a 4th line center quite yet and I'd view those bottom 3 lines as being quite fluid and flexible. The guys who are going are going to get the ice time. And with Backlund he's also 36 and would probably benefit from usage that isn't so demanding and you never quite know when his play falls off.

Folks get too hung up with labels like 4th line centre.

If a trade puts you in a situation where you can run four good lines, that kind of relentless pressure gets you places IMO. It's the best alternative to having super star elite skaters that we don't have yet.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Folks get too hung up with labels like 4th line centre.

If a trade puts you in a situation where you can run four good lines, that kind of relentless pressure gets you places IMO. It's the best alternative to having super star elite skaters that we don't have yet.

It matters especially for teams that have a legit 1st like star center.

You won’t get the elite skaters needed if you try run that. Players produce when they are given the proper ice time. See Sutter benching Huberdeau.

[CFO]

I don't see the need for pinto is frost is in the mix.

Kadri and frost fill out 2/3 centers.

If you bring in a center it has to be for a #1 guy whether now or 2-3 years from now. Not a borderline second line guy and third liner.

[bluejays]

I just watched a tsn video on the Shanahan permission granted and Dreger has to be the worst "insider" there is. He says a lot and still says nothing in this whole video. Shanahan is gone. Of course it isn't official, as it hasn't been announced. He's trying desperately to sound intelligent here. SMH


https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/toronto-maple...ahan-1.2309770

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by CFO

I don't see the need for pinto is frost is in the mix.

Kadri and frost fill out 2/3 centers.

If you bring in a center it has to be for a #1 guy whether now or 2-3 years from now. Not a borderline second line guy and third liner.

Pinto is a 3rd liner. He doesn’t = a 2nd. I’d rather get the 2nd or will have
Ore value on the trade market than pinto.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Pinto is a 3rd liner. He doesn’t = a 2nd. I’d rather get the 2nd or will have
Ore value on the trade market than pinto.

Pinto = a 2nd for sure

You're probably not getting him for just a 2nd in a straight up trade TBH

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Pinto = a 2nd for sure

You're probably not getting him for just a 2nd in a straight up trade TBH

I’m sure Brad Treliving would pay a 1st.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Peeps were saying Ras gets a 1st and a 2nd like comparable D trades recently.

Others propose exactly that, Pinto = 2nd and OTT's 1st and peeps say that's not enough.

LOL

I think Flames would take that package in a heartbeat, and it's unlikely that OTT offers it.

I can tell you right now, that Ottawa wants Andersson more than Calgary wants Pinto.

[Vinny01]

Pinto makes less sense for the Flames after the Frost acquisition. I think they should be targeting picks or younger high upside but unproven pieces for Andersson.