2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by traptor

Ryan pike had an article on the Seth Jones trade as a template for a Rasmus deal, which would be amazing.

Its too bad the Sabres are such an unattractive market because I vould see a similar deal there.


1st + Rasmus for kulich + 9th oa.

Detroit is another one where we could trade Rasmus get a young center and move up.


Or I wonder if the ducks are looking to build some more vets now

Zegras + 1st for 1st + Rasmus

For the record, I'd prefer we hang on to Rasmus at a good, discounted price and keep his swagger and history with the team, on the team. But, if we are going to move him, I can definitely see Detroit being an option and only because Yzerman makes weird moves and I'm guessing from his end of season presser that he's feeling the pressure to show some form of success now.

[Royle9]

I'd take Kulich and 9th OA for Rasmus and a 1st.

[aaronkarlpatton]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I'd take Kulich and 9th OA for Rasmus and a 1st.

Royle, is this remotely possible?

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[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I'd take Kulich and 9th OA for Rasmus and a 1st.

1st being 18? or 31/32?
Walking away with Kulich 9 and 18 would be awesome

Martin
Reschny/Ryabkin

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by aaronkarlpatton

Royle, is this remotely possible?

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I just can’t see Andersson signing there even if he doesn’t have Buffalo on his NTC which I’m guessing he does

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by aaronkarlpatton

Royle, is this remotely possible?

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I'm not certain it is.
Buffalo is a hard place to get anyone to commit to at this point.
It's more of a dream scenario, and I'm sure Buffalo would absolutely do it.
Just don't see Andersson signing the extension there long term, which would have to be part of the deal to move the 9th pick from Buffalo's perspective.

[sureLoss]

Garrioch: Sens in the market for a right shot D , and have kicked tries on Rasmus in the past. Risto and Ekblad mentioned as other potential targets:

https://ottawasun.com/sports/ottawa-...eed-defenceman

The Senators were one of several teams that kicked the tires during the season with the Calgary Flames on defenceman Rasmus Andersson, and his future is to be determined.

Andersson, 28, a right-shot blueliner, is heading into the final year of a contract that will pay him $4.55 million next season.

He is the captain of Team Sweden at this year’s IIHF world championship being held in Stockholm, so that speaks to the quality of player and person that he is to receive that honour from his country.

The expectation is he’ll get somewhere in the $8 million range (or more) on his next deal, which is why the Flames are expected to move him this summer so they can get something in return.

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If the Senators were to make that move, Andersson would have to be signed to an extension, which means the return would be high.

Two league executives believe the Flames have some level of interest in centre Shane Pinto, but let’s make it clear that’s purely speculation. We’re not convinced that the Senators want to move Pinto because he’s reliable and can play on any of the club’s top three lines.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Andersson for Pinto seems to be a good starting point.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Andersson for Pinto seems to be a good starting point.

It might be value wise I just don’t see why Calgary wants Pinto

He’s already 24 and will be 25 early next season / early birthday

He’s only signed for this upcoming year . Hes not big for a Center . He doesn’t overly score or put up points

Isn’t he just Frost 2.0?

We need to stop collecting mid 2nd liners who need to be paid .

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

It might be value wise I just don’t see why Calgary wants Pinto

He’s already 24 and will be 25 early next season / early birthday

He’s only signed for this upcoming year . Hes not big for a Center . He doesn’t overly score or put up points

Isn’t he just Frost 2.0?

We need to stop collecting mid 2nd liners who need to be paid .

Pinto is 6'3 205.

[Royle9]

Pinto is very much like Frost, but bigger.
Feel like there'd have to be more on their end.
Ottawa has the 21st pick.. so not overly high either.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Pinto is very much like Frost, but bigger.
Feel like there'd have to be more on their end.
Ottawa has the 21st pick.. so not overly high either.

18, 21 and Fla 1st would give Conroy a great opportunity to trade up to get a center in this draft. I could see him being able to move up to 8-10 if he had 3 1sts to play with.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

I have heard too many red flags about Byram to make me believe he could be a detriment to the culture. I hope if the Flames were interested, they do their research first.

What red flags?

I think he could pop if put in the right situation.

Both his destinations have had him behind studs limiting his opportunities move up the depth chart.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Pinto is 6'3 205.

Hockey DB shows it weird 6.03 oops

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/...php?pid=217084

Still though - with Kadri and Frost where does he play

This is why I still don’t like the Frost trade . Hes just kind of there .

I would prefer Pinto over Frost as my 2nd liners Center and try to find your Kadri replacement in the draft

(I actually would prefer trading Kadri and having Frost and Pinto but I don’t think that’s a reasonable option right now )

[traptor]

Pinto is a better long term fit then frost.

2 years younger, Bigger, RS, and multiple 20g seasons.

He may not be a 1c, but he fits the prototypical 2/3c mold better then Frost imo.

Also feeds like there may be some untapped offense still.

They could also target Greig instead whose younger.

Sens make alot of sense to me.


What about something like Pinto + 21st OA + 2nd for Rasmus + 28th

[SuperMatt18]

If it's something like Pinto + 21 for Andersson + 32 as a starting point that's pretty fair.

But the problem as Jason14h mentioned is that probably made more sense before they traded for Frost too.

Although I like Pinto as your long term 3C because I think he can play that role really well and they do need to find someone to help Backlund not be solely responsible for tough minutes.

Kadri
Frost
Pinto
Backlund

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Andersson for Pinto seems to be a good starting point.

Pinto is definitely the most obvious/intriguing asset that OTT might consider moving.

Some other players/prospects that could be of interest:
Halliday, 22, C, L - he looked pretty good in the AHL last year. Definitely fills a need in the organization.

Marilainen, 22, G, L - he was pretty great for OTT this year. .926sv%, and 8W, in 12GP this season with the big club. He would be a pretty great Vladar replacment.

Greig, 22, C/LW, L - He gave OTT some depth scoring playing on the wing on a line with Pinto, and Amadio. With 13G and 34P, he provides skill and grit, and there's more there. Won 55% of his FOs this year, and solidified himself as a decent PKer and a PK threat. I thought he had 1st line potential when he was drafted, but he projects more as a 2nd liner right now.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yeah Pinto made sense before we got Frost. I even mentioned Pinto a few times.

It works if we send Frost the other way with Andersson for a larger return that includes Pinto.

Unless its a LHS D like Miller not a lot of player for player deals make sense.

Stock up on picks and prospects and that allows you to make a run at a much much better player. That is what it cost Dallas to get Rantanen.

[dammage79]

Andersson and Poirier for Pinto, 21 and Sogaard?

That'd be the #2 goalie replacement for Vlad.

I don't know.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

If it's something like Pinto + 21 for Andersson + 32 as a starting point that's pretty fair.

But the problem as Jason14h mentioned is that probably made more sense before they traded for Frost too.

Although I like Pinto as your long term 3C because I think he can play that role really well and they do need to find someone to help Backlund not be solely responsible for tough minutes.

Kadri
Frost
Pinto
Backlund

I think though people get too caught up in slotting players on a line up that's a work in progress. Pinto and Frost are similar, agreed. Long term do you want both.....maybe not (or maybe you do depending how the develop). But as is being pointed out, neither are slam dunks, they are work in progresses or maybe just middle line players.

But I doubt Conroy is acquiring either of Frost or hypothetically Pinto because he's trying to shore up our 2b or 3 line centers of the future (although that may very well be the outcome). I assume he's acquiring them because his scouts see greater potential in them vs. what they are currently putting up and sees the opportunity to get an undervalued asset.

You acquire more than 1 Frost / Pinto at this point in the teams development curve because you aren't putting your eggs in one basket. You acknowledge that one or both might not develop into what you hope they can be, but you are giving yourself a greater opportunity to "find" a future 2, 1B or even 1A centre if one them lives up to the potential your scouts see. In these scenarios, you acquire multiple assets (if you can) that fit that description, in hopes that one really works out. You don't just acquire one Frost and hope, you acquire multiple and increase your chances. Essentially, you are hoping at least one becomes a "reverse Bennette" for us. If not, and you end up with a 3c log jam, you keep one and move on from the other.