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Old 05-20-2025, 04:19 PM   #14941
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If you had the Misa pick would you trade him for that?
When he puts Coronato on the table with everything that is a super legit offer.

Basically offered Coronato, Bru, Gridin, 18, 29-32 for 2 in a draft that is not that hyped.
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Old 05-20-2025, 04:21 PM   #14942
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Sharks sure sound like they're loaded with talent for a team that finished dead last in the league.
They've done a good job of building a strong prospect pool, and now need to add to it with some veterans.

Center: Celebrini, Smith, Bystedt, Bordeleau
Wing: Eklund, Musty, Chernyshov, Halttunen,
D: Dickinson, Mukhamadullin, Wallenius, Thompson, Cagnoni
G: Askarov

Add likely one of Schaefer, Misa, or Martone to that young core now too.

They have 2 1st's and 2 2nd's this year, and 2 1st's and 2 2nd's next year, plus the most cap space in the league, so lots of ammo to add to the team as well.

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I don’t see Calgary getting into the top 5, probably not even the top 10 at this point.
Sorry guys.
Detroit at 13 is still the one that stands out to me for Andersson.
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Old 05-20-2025, 04:23 PM   #14943
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SJ are looking to push now, they’re stacked with young talent.
I don’t think anyone’s trading into their pick, not the flames at least.
Prospects and picks + a depth veteran isn’t going to wet their whistle.

Unless we’re offering Andersson + Parekh ++ I doubt they even pickup the phone.

Coronato isn’t being traded, so I wouldn’t add him to any proposal.
Same goes for Wolf and Parekh.
Kadri is about 95% untouchable at this point, player would have to agree to anything and both sides want him here. He wants to bring a cup to Calgary more than he wants to chase another one somewhere else.

I don’t see Calgary getting into the top 5, probably not even the top 10 at this point.
Sorry guys.
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Old 05-20-2025, 05:11 PM   #14944
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SJ are looking to push now, they’re stacked with young talent.
I don’t think anyone’s trading into their pick, not the flames at least.
Prospects and picks + a depth veteran isn’t going to wet their whistle.

Unless we’re offering Andersson + Parekh ++ I doubt they even pickup the phone.

Coronato isn’t being traded, so I wouldn’t add him to any proposal.
Same goes for Wolf and Parekh.
Kadri is about 95% untouchable at this point, player would have to agree to anything and both sides want him here. He wants to bring a cup to Calgary more than he wants to chase another one somewhere else.

I don’t see Calgary getting into the top 5, probably not even the top 10 at this point.
Sorry guys.
San Jose also likely wants to build as good a team around Celebrini as soon as possible. They have the franchise player, now they need to avoid trashing his confidence or getting him into bad habits. They also want to avoid burning any of his prime years.

If I'm SJ I'm bringing in at least two top 4 defenders this off season.
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Old 05-20-2025, 05:28 PM   #14945
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SJ was trying to get better last year. That they were so, so bad was by accident, not design. Now they have 3 seasons before all their young stud RFA's get paid. Ecklund 1-year, Celebrini & Smith 2-years, Dickinson 3-years assuming he makes the team next year which is likely, plus 3-years if whoever they draft this year makes the team, also likely.

Regardless, they need to bring in vets now. They don't need to stockpile draft picks anymore, time to start seeing the picks pay off. Otherwise it's going to be a miserable rebuild when the young players are all getting paid and have next to nothing for reliable vet leadership.
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Old 05-20-2025, 05:33 PM   #14946
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SJ was trying to get better last year. That they were so, so bad was by accident, not design.

Don't really think that's true. This was their opening night roster:


Forwards
Macklin Celebrini
Ty Dellandrea
William Eklund
Barclay Goodrow
Mikael Granlund
Carl Grundstrom
Danil Gushchin
Klim Kostin
Luke Kunin
Givani Smith
Will Smith
Nico Sturm
Tyler Toffoli
Alexander Wennberg
Fabian Zetterlund
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Matt Benning
Cody Ceci
Mario Ferraro
Jan Rutta
Henry Thrun
Jake Walman
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Mackenzie Blackwood
Vitek Vanecek
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Lucas Carlsson
Igor Chernyshov
Shakir Mukhamadullin
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Thomas Bordeleau
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Old 05-20-2025, 09:58 PM   #14947
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man, I don't think it likely but if i were Conroy I would be pitching this so hard.

basically anything outside of Parekh and Wolf on the table.

Basic outline
1 of Mews or Bzru
1 of Battaglia or Gridin (or basha)
1 Roster player (I would be fine if this were Coronato, though some wouldn't. Farabee, Zary are other potential examples.)
the 2 1sts we have this year

Just want Misa bad.
Terrible. Like you would get fired kind of terrible.
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man, I don't think it likely but if i were Conroy I would be pitching this so hard.

basically anything outside of Parekh and Wolf on the table.

Basic outline
1 of Mews or Bzru
1 of Battaglia or Gridin (or basha)
1 Roster player (I would be fine if this were Coronato, though some wouldn't. Farabee, Zary are other potential examples.)
the 2 1sts we have this year

Just want Misa bad.
You make it sound like Coronato and Farabee have similar value? Farabee likely has negative value. Coronato has exceptional value.
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Old 05-20-2025, 10:40 PM   #14949
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Would the Dallas 1st and SJ 2nd be enough for Ras?

Basically the 32 and 33 pick this year
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Old 05-20-2025, 11:02 PM   #14950
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Would the Dallas 1st and SJ 2nd be enough for Ras?

Basically the 32 and 33 pick this year
2nd next year its probably a done deal.

Walk out with reschny, zonnon, reid, gastrin? I could do that.

My personal belief is sj and chicago may be frontrunners. They both have the assets and impetus to improve.

Chicago could go 31,34,58
Sj could do 26,36,53

Nashville could be a surprise they could go 24,27,35

Detroit has the need dont about the will they have their own picks and two thirds.
Montreal has a pile if draft capital do they need a rd? Not sure.
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Old 05-20-2025, 11:11 PM   #14951
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I’d rather get more picks spread out instead of all in this draft. 1st in 26 and a 2nd this year.
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Detroit at 13 is still the one that stands out to me for Andersson.
It makes a lot of sense. He fills a need there, and Yzerman is under the gun to deliver some results. If they don’t make the playoffs next year, he might be out.
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Old 05-20-2025, 11:39 PM   #14953
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Seems like the Rangers make the most sense in a team that needs to do better and has a chance of resigning Rasmus Andersson.

Rasmus Andersson for 12th Overall + 2026 2nd

Check in with Tampa on Isaac Howard (if he can commit to signing):

Isaac Howard for Henry Mews + Blake Coleman (50% Retained)
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I'm a bit late on Kerins but I don't think he is getting his due.

He played 5 games for the Flames and put up 4 points. It's also been noted that the team was outplayed when he was on the ice but that stat requires a bit of context imo.

He played during a stretch in January when Calgary lost two crucial games back to back in St. Louis, Wolf then stole one in Winnipeg, and they beat the Sabres. Overall the team went 3-2-0:

Chicago W 5-2 Points 2 TOI 14:57 CF% 54.5 (FWD Rank 5th)
St. Louis L 2-1 Points 0 TOI 11:41 CF% 77.8 (1st)
St. Louis L 4-1 Points 1 TOI 15:45 CF% 67.9 (1st)
Winnipeg W 3-1 Points 1 TOI 11:48 CF% 19.2 (10th)
Buffalo W 5-2 Points 0 TOI 6:57 CF% 23.5 (11th)

Linemates:
Chicago Pelletier Sharangovich Kerins GF% 55.38
St. Louis Pelletier Sharangovich Kerins xGF% 76.68
St. Louis Pelletier Sharangovich Kerins xGF% 34.25
Winnipeg Kuzmenko Sharangovich Kerins xGF% 22.16
Buffalo Kuzmenko Sharangovich Kerins xGF% 5.15

Just a few thoughts:
-his call-up began on a tough road trip that included 3 games in 4 nights and 4 games in 6
-the Winnipeg game was rough for EVERYONE (except Wolf), there were no players with a positive Corsi and only Backlund, Coleman, Bean and Coronato had an xGF% over 25%
-putting him on a line Kuzmenko clearly didn't work
-the Flames took 7 minor penalties against the Sabres and despite the 5-2 final there were two empty net goals and Huska had clearly seen enough of him and Kuzmenko for a close game
-The struggled a lot in the last two games but there were three games that he really made an impact

I agree that he has plenty of room to improve but I think he's an underrated player in the system. He was the top scoring AHL player 23 & under, led his team in points, and actually produced offence in his short stint in the NHL. It's up to him to have a great summer and to earn a spot with some skilled players through camp, but I'm excited to see what he does at the start of next summer.
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Old 05-20-2025, 11:55 PM   #14955
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Seems like the Rangers make the most sense in a team that needs to do better and has a chance of resigning Rasmus Andersson.

Rasmus Andersson for 12th Overall + 2026 2nd

Check in with Tampa on Isaac Howard (if he can commit to signing):

Isaac Howard for Henry Mews + Blake Coleman (50% Retained)
That would be highway robbery by Tampa. Howard would also have to leave NCAA after committing to return if he signed.
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Old 05-21-2025, 06:52 AM   #14956
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2nd next year its probably a done deal.

Walk out with reschny, zonnon, reid, gastrin? I could do that.

My personal belief is sj and chicago may be frontrunners. They both have the assets and impetus to improve.

Chicago could go 31,34,58
Sj could do 26,36,53

Nashville could be a surprise they could go 24,27,35

Detroit has the need dont about the will they have their own picks and two thirds.
Montreal has a pile if draft capital do they need a rd? Not sure.
Chicago would have no interest in Anderson. They already have two RH dmen youngsters who have been very impressive.

They are looking for forwards.

SJ is the team in need of dmen.
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Old 05-21-2025, 07:20 AM   #14957
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Would the Dallas 1st and SJ 2nd be enough for Ras?

Basically the 32 and 33 pick this year
No where near enough, IMO. This is a fairly soft draft, so it's basically 2 2nds for Andersson. No thanks.
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Old 05-21-2025, 08:10 AM   #14958
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[32T] 58:30 Friedman reports that the Sabres are gauging market value on Bowen Byram. He has recently changed agent and is now represented by Darren Ferris. He would like a bigger role and more responsibility.

This is a must acquire by Calgary imo. Trade Andersson for picks or Byram and extend Byram to 8 years.
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Bleacher report recently had an article about the best fits for RFA’s and Byram and the Flames were linked (fit wise not legit rumor)
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Old 05-21-2025, 08:33 AM   #14960
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I have heard too many red flags about Byram to make me believe he could be a detriment to the culture. I hope if the Flames were interested, they do their research first.
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