[Rumour] Dailyfaceoff: Flames might go big game hunting this summer

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Watch Johnny’s video from the NHL quarter century team. I think he was far more talented than Marner.

Here's a top 10 from Marner... Lots of similarities.

I'm also biased towards Johnny as I saw most of those as they happened, but their skillsets are eerily similar.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

Saying Marner isn't a goal scorer is the same as saying Johnny Gaudreau or Patrick Kane weren't goal scorers.

They're very similar players who draw attention from other players, and play to their linemates' strengths because of how well they read the game. They can break games open, whether that's through a perfect pass or a goal. Marner "only" has a career high of 35 goals in the NHL, because Matthews has been the trigger man on his line, but he has a fantastic, incredibly accurate shot and will put up 40 in the right spot...

There's obvious risk with any top end player but don't diminish his skills. The guy is a game breaker.

Again, I'm not advocating for the Flames to sign him, but he is the type of player that can change the makeup of a lineup in a very good way.

Again I don't see how this couldn't have also been said about Huberdeau based on his final 5 seasons in Florida. He scored 27, 30, 23, 20, 30 compared to Marner scoring 20, 35, 30, 26, 27. And Marner has played with higher end talent.

Not saying Marner's production would definitely cut in half like Hubey. But something similar could happen and it's more likely to happen than you think.

[tony-soprano]

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[Paulie Walnuts]

#1 target he’s like Kucherov. That AAV is just getting higher. Going to take the Flamss to great heights and lots of winning.

[CaptainYooh]

I really hope Conroy doesn’t go after Marner. He’s not skilled enough to be so soft.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

He is small like Kucherov. Kucherov appears to have been able to produce in his 30’s.

Marner is like Kucherov as Bouchard is like Makar

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The math on Marner is pretty simple for the Flames.

This offseason they have 27 million in space. They have 9 forwards under contract (need to sign Zary, Frost and Klapka), they have 6 dmen under contract (need to sign Bahl).

If they sign Marner for 13.5, they have 13.5 to sign Zary, Frost, Klapka, Bahl. If those guys cost a combined 12.5 million they would have a million to sign two other forwards.

Next offseason if they spent 27 million this offseason that was on the books for 26/27 they would have 27 million and need to sign Wolf and Pospisil and replace 3 dmen, a backup goalie and two forwards. Point is they have more than enough cap room to sign a stud like Marner and sign their young forwards longterm if they want to.

That would be without moving any salary out.

This actually pushes me further away from wanting to sign Marner.

The Flames need that cap space to acquire center depth. Locking up even more cap space into wingers really handcuffs the team from chasing that future #1C. If Frost walks because he is signed to a 1 year bridge contract then the team needs to find a future #2C along with a future #1C.

Also, there is no way Marner signs that $14M contract without a full NMC.

If we were not already in the Huberdeau situation then Marner might make sense but with both of them on the roster you run the risk of having a combined 25M/y aging out with no centres to play with them.

[Mightyfire89]

Marner’s the type that can have a huge impact on getting a team to the playoffs. He’s very talented, a great passer. What he doesn’t do very much is help a team IN the playoffs. He seems to mostly disappear when it matters most.
No thanks to that. I have zero interest in any UFAs this summer.
Stay the course Conny.

[dammage79]

Don't know if it's Marner that cannot get it done in the playoffs more so that everyone of the "Core 4" seems to turn to jelly. IMO the Leafs need a Kadri type more than anything. Since the Flames have a Kadri type, I believe Marner would benefit greatly from that in a playoff scenario.

[icarus]

Originally Posted by Wolven

This actually pushes me further away from wanting to sign Marner.



The Flames need that cap space to acquire center depth. Locking up even more cap space into wingers really handcuffs the team from chasing that future #1C. If Frost walks because he is signed to a 1 year bridge contract then the team needs to find a future #2C along with a future #1C.



Also, there is no way Marner signs that $14M contract without a full NMC.



If we were not already in the Huberdeau situation then Marner might make sense but with both of them on the roster you run the risk of having a combined 25M/y aging out with no centres to play with them.

I agree with this. With the Florida pick now looking likely to be in the 28-32 range, it seems even less likely that the Flames are going to walk away with two potential top-six centres from the draft and I'd rather them draft BPA with those firsts. So if Calgary is going to splash out on big long-term UFA contracts I think they need to pursue centres, and next year might be the better year in which to do that.

[Burner]

Just watched the Leafs game tonight - DO NOT want Marner - cute player no heart to play through hard situations

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by Mightyfire89

Marner’s the type that can have a huge impact on getting a team to the playoffs. He’s very talented, a great passer. What he doesn’t do very much is help a team IN the playoffs. He seems to mostly disappear when it matters most.
No thanks to that. I have zero interest in any UFAs this summer.
Stay the course Conny.

Maybe Marner and Bennett can share a jersey. Marner plays the regular season games and Bennett plays the playoff games.

[dissentowner]

I don't want Bennett. He is a good 2nd line C but we need a first line C. I am fine with Marner because he is a big time skill player but other than that there is nothing else out there we should be pushing for imo..

[Hockey_Ninja]

Please stay away from Marner

[Mightyfire89]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I don't want Bennett. He is a good 2nd line C but we need a first line C. I am fine with Marner because he is a big time skill player but other than that there is nothing else out there we should be pushing for imo..

Yeah. Don’t want the Flames to pay what Bennett is going to get. It would be a massive mistake IMO. IF the Flames were to get Marner, I would be fine with it because he could massively help them to get to the playoffs, but I don’t think he would sign in Calgary and also, like I said, I’m not a fan of how he plays in the playoffs.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Mightyfire89

Yeah. Don’t want the Flames to pay what Bennett is going to get. It would be a massive mistake IMO. IF the Flames were to get Marner, I would be fine with it because he could massively help them to get to the playoffs, but I don’t think he would sign in Calgary and also, like I said, I’m not a fan of how he plays in the playoffs.

Agreed on everything here. I think the Flames will try but I don't see Marner choosing Calgary. I have no inside info on that though, just my own opinion.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Anaheim or LA seems like the best fit for Marner. With one of the best coaches of all time talking about Anaheim reminding him of Chicago before they took off he could be a piece they go after.

I see Marner going to Anaheim or Chicago. The latter if he just wants the biggest payday and to play closer to home.

[Roof-Daddy]

lol

I really don't think you guys have to worry about the Flames landing any "big game" players in free agency.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I see Marner going to Anaheim or Chicago. The latter if he just wants the biggest payday and to play closer to home.

Blackhawks makes sense. They could be getting desperate to show Bedard that they are going to pull out of their rebuild sooner than later. I recall someone on this board posted a rumour that Bedard wasn't happy. If they have another basement season he may start looking for the door, get a bridge to UFA, and go find an organization that is on the upswing.

Blackhawks have a lot of great young pieces and just need some finishing touches to get them out of the basement.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

lol

I really don't think you guys have to worry about the Flames landing any "big game" players in free agency.

That won't stop them.