Yellowstone and Taylor Sheridan

[Jacks]

I was going to stop watching after the first episode of 5B but instead decided to ffw'd past all the cowboy and country music parts. That made the watch much shorter and palatable although still not all that good. Can't imagine watching the spinoffs, there were only a couple of likeable characters at the end. Since others have posted spoilers I won't use tags, was really hoping Beth would die somehow.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

I'm trying to grasp if there is actually a real world where the women all swoon over Taylor Sheridan's mad riding skills! He sure likes to dedicate a lot of camera time to himself doing the same 2 or 3 moves on his fancy horses.

These series are all some form of advertising for his ranch?

He can ride a horse. Cool? I guess?

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Jacks

I was going to stop watching after the first episode of 5B but instead decided to ffw'd past all the cowboy and country music parts. That made the watch much shorter and palatable although still not all that good. Can't imagine watching the spinoffs, there were only a couple of likeable characters at the end. Since others have posted spoilers I won't use tags, was really hoping Beth would die somehow.

If there was a 8 - 10 minute recap of each season that would be better, but probably still a bit too long. I am amazed that anyone watches this or any of the numerous spinoffs.

[Roof-Daddy]

All the scenes with Sheridan riding his horse to everyone's complete and utter amazement at his sooper dooper skills or the scenes with him playing poker or yapping away with women draped all over him certainly come across as self serving ego stroking, seeing as he's the show runner.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

As someone who grew up on a cattle farm, watching Yellowstone leads me to believe my family was doing it wrong.

I'm a bit weary about making a misstep in front of the two cattle farmers on my hockey team. I thought they were good young wholesome boys but after watching Yellowstone once never really knows what those cowboys are like!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Buff

I'm a bit weary about making a misstep in front of the two cattle farmers on my hockey team. I thought they were good young wholesome boys but after watching Yellowstone once never really knows what those cowboys are like!

Yeah, they'll take you down to the train station.

Although I will say, I have a client (entire family) of Cowboys, Ranchers and Rodeo competitors and...some of those stereotypes are pretty damned close.

The son came in to my office one time wearing...you ever see those contraptions designed to keep your head/neck steady? Not the little soft collars, the giant steel ones with the bars and the braces that go around your head.

"WTF are you doing here?"

Taxes....

"Dude...use a computer...are you even allowed to leave the Hospital with that?"

[Sr. Mints]

What a nothing burger third act.

I don't know-- nor really care-- about the behind the scenes circumstances and how they didn't have Costner contractually obligated to finish out the second half of the last season, but the show ended on an absolute whimper, twisting itself in knots to dance around his absence.

[Mr.Coffee]

The last season reeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaally was starting to stretch out the “feels” scenes of cowboy life. The amount of time you’re forced into watching people riding horses aimlessly, cattle walk around, or just country music playing is insane. Holy ####. So much wasted tv time. They could have made this show in almost half the time and it would have been better. There was simply no reason for it to be 5 seasons long.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

The last season reeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaally was starting to stretch out the “feels” scenes of cowboy life. The amount of time you’re forced into watching people riding horses aimlessly, cattle walk around, or just country music playing is insane. Holy ####. So much wasted tv time. They could have made this show in almost half the time and it would have been better. There was simply no reason for it to be 5 seasons long.

It had enough fresh content for a movie, probably

Lioness is same path. S2 was trash

[Yamer]

I like Taylor Sheridan, and the Travis character was actually one of the more entertaining ones in the whole series, but his need to leave off by once again having the absolute s### kicked out of Beth is too much.

The only reason you have any sympathy for Beth is because of this. Otherwise she's an insufferable c###. I have very little interest in the Beth/Rip spinoff, even though Rip is pretty bad ass.

[3rd liner]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

It had enough fresh content for a movie, probably

Lioness is same path. S2 was trash

I agree. Loved Lioness season 1, was looking forward to season 2, which was very underwhelming. A lot of Zoe Saldana's character being over the top angry, tons of shoot-outs (featuring, once again, Sheridan as the ultimate bad*ss solider) and not much else. Not nearly the depth and development seen in season 1. Even the new lioness character arc seemed rushed, and did Cruz really need to be involved again?
Although, from a pure action perspective, the scenes where the various helicopters mowed down enemy soldiers was sooo cool.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by 3rd liner

I agree. Loved Lioness season 1, was looking forward to season 2, which was very underwhelming. A lot of Zoe Saldana's character being over the top angry, tons of shoot-outs (featuring, once again, Sheridan as the ultimate bad*ss solider) and not much else. Not nearly the depth and development seen in season 1. Even the new lioness character arc seemed rushed, and did Cruz really need to be involved again?
Although, from a pure action perspective, the scenes where the various helicopters mowed down enemy soldiers was sooo cool.

Agree with this 100%
Sheridan has great ideas, does great things, and then ruins them - at least kind of. And yes, action scenes in Lioness were great. Story was crap. And obviously according to script, women in charge have to be super angry and flip out otherwise no one listens or respects their authority.

[afc wimbledon]

Ironically watched as much as I could of Horizon, the Kevin Costner production he walked out of Yellowstone for, it appears Costner learnt well from every single sweeping crap epic movie he was ever in, Waterworld, The Postman, Robin Hood.

Horizon is as rubbish as all of them combined without even the advantage of any humour, utter mess of a movie with a meaningless almost unfollowable storyline that makes sod all sense

Should have watched Lonesome Dove or even Open Range before he thought about making it, a mess

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Ironically watched as much as I could of Horizon, the Kevin Costner production he walked out of Yellowstone for, it appears Costner learnt well from every single sweeping crap epic movie he was ever in, Waterworld, The Postman, Robin Hood.

Horizon is as rubbish as all of them combined without even the advantage of any humour, utter mess of a movie with a meaningless almost unfollowable storyline that makes sod all sense

Should have watched Lonesome Dove or even Open Range before he thought about making it, a mess

You shut your goddamn mouth. Waterworld is amazing.

[Weitz]

I didn’t mind horizon. But I viewed it as 3 tv episodes instead of a movie.

I also watched on an airplane. Airplane movies just seem to be better to me for some reason.

[3rd liner]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Ironically watched as much as I could of Horizon, the Kevin Costner production he walked out of Yellowstone for, it appears Costner learnt well from every single sweeping crap epic movie he was ever in, Waterworld, The Postman, Robin Hood.

Horizon is as rubbish as all of them combined without even the advantage of any humour, utter mess of a movie with a meaningless almost unfollowable storyline that makes sod all sense

Should have watched Lonesome Dove or even Open Range before he thought about making it, a mess

Agreed. I was hoping Horizon would be way better than it was.

[3rd liner]

Thoughts on 1923?? I thought it was pretty good. Like 1883, having a limited series seems to go much better for eliminating filler. Though there were some really unnecessary scenes with the villain and his vices- didn't want to spoil it but if you've seen it you know. I'm no prude but it seemed over the top. The guy was already a scumbag villain.

Other Taylor Sheridan shows going on (well, rumours at least) I've heard in the last couple of days:
- new Rip/Beth spin-off will be called Yellowstoneutton Ranch. Not sure I could take a full show of those two (mainly Beth) and what an interesting story could be. Somebody tries to take their new ranch? Seen that one already.
- Another show called 'the Madison' coming soon, about folks from New York that move to Montana to live on a ranch. Michelle Pfeiffer is in it. Not sure how it ties into the yellowstone thing.
- Sam Elliot will supposedly be in Landman season 2. Sam Elliot is a legend.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by 3rd liner

Thoughts on 1923?? I thought it was pretty good. Like 1883, having a limited series seems to go much better for eliminating filler. Though there were some really unnecessary scenes with the villain and his vices- didn't want to spoil it but if you've seen it you know. I'm no prude but it seemed over the top. The guy was already a scumbag villain.

Other Taylor Sheridan shows going on (well, rumours at least) I've heard in the last couple of days:
- new Rip/Beth spin-off will be called Yellowstoneutton Ranch. Not sure I could take a full show of those two (mainly Beth) and what an interesting story could be. Somebody tries to take their new ranch? Seen that one already.
- Another show called 'the Madison' coming soon, about folks from New York that move to Montana to live on a ranch. Michelle Pfeiffer is in it. Not sure how it ties into the yellowstone thing.
- Sam Elliot will supposedly be in Landman season 2. Sam Elliot is a legend.

The best of the bunch was 1883, IMO. It was like a gritty telling of the Oregon Trail.

1923 had a pretty good first season, but it seemed like they raced to the finish line in the last season. I think it would have been better suited as a 3 season show. It also relied on the characters being fundamentally dumb on all levels to generate all the drama and suspense.

I have no idea how the Duttons survived for 150 some years with their collective IQs.

[3rd liner]

Originally Posted by Yamer

The best of the bunch was 1883, IMO. It was like a gritty telling of the Oregon Trail.

1923 had a pretty good first season, but it seemed like they raced to the finish line in the last season. I think it would have been better suited as a 3 season show. It also relied on the characters being fundamentally dumb on all levels to generate all the drama and suspense.

I have no idea how the Duttons survived for 150 some years with their collective IQs.

I totally agree- 1883 was probably the best so far, overall as it was compact, with good pace.
Yellowstone could have been much better trimmed into three or even four seasons- eliminate the scenes with Sheridan and his buds showing their horse reining skills, for example.
The 1923 pace was a bit odd. I saw a lot of viewer comments that the events in season 2 really dragged on, and then wrapped up super quick. Either a season 3, or trim down some of season 2's 'journey'.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by 3rd liner

I totally agree- 1883 was probably the best so far, overall as it was compact, with good pace.
Yellowstone could have been much better trimmed into three or even four seasons- eliminate the scenes with Sheridan and his buds showing their horse reining skills, for example.
The 1923 pace was a bit odd. I saw a lot of viewer comments that the events in season 2 really dragged on, and then wrapped up super quick. Either a season 3, or trim down some of season 2's 'journey'.

It really felt like they were planning on making a season 3 and changed direction, and then just had to rush through all of season 3 in the last episode.

All of his shows start out pretty watchable and enjoyable, and then irritating for many reasons.