Ottawa fans proposing Chabot + for Andersson on HF and I feel like that would be an unreal deal for us. Even just for L-R balance, but I love it. I think its good to have more french guys around for Huby, too.
Ottawa fans proposing Chabot + for Andersson on HF and I feel like that would be an unreal deal for us. Even just for L-R balance, but I love it. I think its good to have more french guys around for Huby, too.
Similar players, and he has 3 years remaining on his contract, so the fit is better, but I would rather have assets than a replacement player, personally.
Way to digest actual data and add to the conversation!
Not sure why you're trying to be sarcastic. The actual data puts a bullet in his head.
Out of 7 Dmen to have played atleast 500 minutes this season:
GF%: 7th
xGF%: 5th
GF% with Andersson OFF the ice: 1st - essentially meaning the Flames goal shares increased dramatically when he left the ice. Weegar was 7th which is obvious. 1st is worst in this case. 7th is best.
He was terrible by most metrics. Stop this. He was quantitatively and qualitatively the worst defender on the Flames this season adjusted for what's expected of him, his role and cap space. He's a massive F grade this year.
Not sure why you're trying to be sarcastic. The actual data puts a bullet in his head.
Out of 7 Dmen to have played atleast 500 minutes this season:
GF%: 7th
xGF%: 5th
GF% with Andersson OFF the ice: 1st - essentially meaning the Flames goal shares increased dramatically when he left the ice. Weegar was 7th which is obvious. 1st is worst in this case. 7th is best.
He was terrible by most metrics. Stop this. He was quantitatively and qualitatively the worst defender on the Flames this season adjusted for what's expected of him, his role and cap space. He's a massive F grade this year.
Calgary likely has to add, give Bouchard a huge contract, and hope he somehow finds his game without an Ekholm/Tanev type player to cover for him.
LOL, I don't think the Flames are desperate for a cross-eyed lazy D-man. Sure he can hit that puck at 95MPH but he hardly uses it and he's literally lazy. I'd rather have Boom-Boom Babchuck or Michael Stone back from retirement over the Bomb any day. The only reason why his +/- is higher than Andersson is because McD and Drai are scoring when he's on the ice. The +/- stat is such a stupid stat TBH. I recall Ovie had something like a -50 or -60 one season when he scored 50+ goals!
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How about the eye test? He played like crap the last 50 games.
Any time I watched the Flames I felt pity for the Defense because Calgary does not have a single forward who can carry the puck through the neutral zone with any level of confidence.
Different league and all, but when I play defense my first look is always the player on the ice who I trust the most. When you're on the ice with guys who always cough it up or can't make clean zone entries you are always second guessing who you should make a pass under pressure to.
Not sure why you're trying to be sarcastic. The actual data puts a bullet in his head.
Out of 7 Dmen to have played atleast 500 minutes this season:
GF%: 7th
xGF%: 5th
GF% with Andersson OFF the ice: 1st - essentially meaning the Flames goal shares increased dramatically when he left the ice. Weegar was 7th which is obvious. 1st is worst in this case. 7th is best.
He was terrible by most metrics. Stop this. He was quantitatively and qualitatively the worst defender on the Flames this season adjusted for what's expected of him, his role and cap space. He's a massive F grade this year.
I said the same above.
He was last on the team in xGA60
But his plus minus is massively affected by the fact the team didn't finish when he was on the ice to the same degree as they created.
So if you're going to walk out plus/minus as the dagger it's pretty easy to dig in and see there's more to the story.
Then it goes back to prevention and having the toughest minutes and what that should mean. He's playing 15% more minutes against elite talent than weegar ... should his expected goals/60 be 15% higher?
Not sure to be honest ... it's not a simple equation.
But the plus minus discussion is pretty superficial when you dig in and look deeper.
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And you don't need it because his expected numbers weren't that good either, so why go to the silly stat?
Go with xGA/60. That's what you are on the ice for in generation against. It doesn't get affected by having a boosted on ice shooting percentage, or a high on ice save percentage ... which happens in a full season.
Andersson was a team worst 2.64 xGA60 on the season.
But then you dig into his expected splits on the season and he's -2.38 on the season compared to -20 5 on 5 in actual goals.
The difference is goals for ... he was only on for 42 goals for compared to 62 in expected goals.
He was also the shutdown guy playing more minutes against elite than any other defenseman. That has to factor in to some degree too ... almost 4 games worth of ice time more than Weegar.
He said he had a rough season, and didn't make any excuses, but the numbers aren't quite as simple as comparing a useless stat.
Why is it always assumed that low shooting percent is all luck and nothing to do with the player? Why is low on ice save percent always on the goalie and not the defender?
I didn't compare Rasmus to Weegar...I used Bahl as Bahl was on the ice with Rasmus for 75% of Rasmus ES minutes. Can I assume that Bahl also played against elite players?
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But his plus minus is massively affected by the fact the team didn't finish when he was on the ice to the same degree as they created.
So if you're going to walk out plus/minus as the dagger it's pretty easy to dig in and see there's more to the story.
Then it goes back to prevention and having the toughest minutes and what that should mean. He's playing 15% more minutes against elite talent than weegar ... should his expected goals/60 be 15% higher?
Not sure to be honest ... it's not a simple equation.
But the plus minus discussion is pretty superficial when you dig in and look deeper.
Why is it always assumed that low shooting percent is all luck and nothing to do with the player? Why is low on ice save percent always on the goalie and not the defender?
I didn't compare Rasmus to Weegar...I used Bahl as Bahl was on the ice with Rasmus for 75% of Rasmus ES minutes. Can I assume that Bahl also played against elite players?
Don't dig to deep or they will tell you that players have a NTC because of you, and you are 10% nutbar.
Ottawa fans proposing Chabot + for Andersson on HF and I feel like that would be an unreal deal for us. Even just for L-R balance, but I love it. I think its good to have more french guys around for Huby, too.
Chabot doesn't make sense for us. He's 28 only under contract for 3 more years.
