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Old 04-22-2025, 08:15 AM   #9641
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Can we get away from the political violence? Shapiro was targeted by an anti Semitic lunatic. It just baffles me how MAGA opponents, and frankly right wing opponents go to violence and speech suppression as an aspirational tool.

Let people speak, modern society will correct it. Using elections. Not bullets.
This is classic projection.
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Can we get away from the political violence? Shapiro was targeted by an anti Semitic lunatic. It just baffles me how MAGA opponents, and frankly right wing opponents go to violence and speech suppression as an aspirational tool.

Let people speak, modern society will correct it. Using elections. Not bullets.
LOL, look how well that turned out. People are ####ing stupid and easily swayed by mounds of bull####, and the worst of society has learned this. Because of free speech, that bull#### has led to the biggest collapse of democracy in modern history.


Tell me, what's the second amendment for if not this?
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Can we get away from the political violence? Shapiro was targeted by an anti Semitic lunatic. It just baffles me how MAGA opponents, and frankly right wing opponents go to violence and speech suppression as an aspirational tool.

Let people speak, modern society will correct it. Using elections. Not bullets.
Under normal circumstances I'd probably agree. It's just gone past the point where "modern society will correct it", it seems to me... if it was the cult of Rand Paul, you could probably have a debate with them about their principles or whatever. Not so with the cult of MAGA.

So no, unfortunately, I don't think we CAN get away from the political violence. Like I say, I'm surprised it hasn't ramped up more quickly.
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OldDutch could have just made a general statement about violence. But he didn’t. For the last decade+ MAGA has pushed extremism, threats of violence, abolishing freedom and attempts to silence the rest of us, and it’s not tolerable. So when people start to push back out comes the victim card and projection about the left. GTFO with that crap.
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If we're upset about this can we get some more details on this clearly rabid anti right wing zealot? What sort of targeting was there? Was it successful?
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Old 04-22-2025, 08:55 AM   #9646
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Can we get away from the political violence? Shapiro was targeted by an anti Semitic lunatic. It just baffles me how MAGA opponents, and frankly right wing opponents go to violence and speech suppression as an aspirational tool.

Let people speak, modern society will correct it. Using elections. Not bullets.
How about gallows?




Just kidding....they had guns too...
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Lol do you forget Jan 6 when they went to kill Mike Pence, we when they wanted him to overturn a fair election.

Didn't see anyone storming the capitol this year, even though was the most likely election that had interference from Musk and Russia.
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Do fascist regimes ever fall peacefully? If America ever returns to something resembling normalcy, it's going to have to get violent, because the MAGA cult is not going to give up power willingly
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This is terrifying
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rfk-jr-...dical-records/
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Do fascist regimes ever fall peacefully? If America ever returns to something resembling normalcy, it's going to have to get violent, because the MAGA cult is not going to give up power willingly
I think Spain moved away from fascism to democracy relatively peacefully.

But the fascist period of 1936-1975 sure wasn't peaceful.
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Revisionist History episode on RFK Jr...

"Malcolm investigates the origins of what the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services believes (and doesn’t believe) about viruses."

https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/revi...rfk-jr-problem
I listened to this on the weekend. I should know better than to get surprised by this administration, but it somehow manages to do it constantly. Like, we can ####ing see the viruses. We have genetically mapped them. What the #### man?!

Don't even get me started on autism. I've rather late in life kind of figured out that I'm high functioning ASD, my eldest daughter is as well even though we haven't been able to get her tested because pretty much all of the testing is based on boys not girls..

Why do I have to be forced to be subjected to this garbage all the time? I don't want to be riled up, I just want to live my quiet little life. ####, man.
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And you know exactly what's going to happen. They're going to cut funding and stigmatize autism to the point that parents will be less likely to get their children assessed, reducing the incidence on paper. Then I'm sure whatever crackpot bull**** eugenic policies they come up with will be given credit for that.
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It's straight up Nazi ####! History says that this is beyond a bad sign.
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Without watching I will say yes he is drunk.
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Your secdef should be a stoic snarling career military man.

Not some fratbro drunkard.
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I think that we've all seen that DUI hiring practices don't work......
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Come on, let's give cocaine a little credit here. Not like he got up and was lit by 8am, he just didn't go to bed.
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“…President Trump asked me to bring warfighting back to the Pentagon.”
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“…President Trump asked me to bring warfighting back to the Pentagon.”
That's odd, because Trump supporters were led to believe he was the president of peace.
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