The 2025 Offseason thread.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Both can absolutely be true. Even if Parekh wins the calder or the norris or whatever next season, he’s not going to lock it in the first week.

It’s going to take time to get up to speed, and there was no time for that this season. Hell, he had an amazing season in the OHL, setting record highs for a defenceman. But nobody would have predicted that if they just looked at his first month.

Expecting him to be the best defenceman on the team through next season is not nearly as crazy as expecting him to be the best defenceman in his very first game or even week.

Nobody expected him to come in and be the saviour. Our PP was crap, and a young player with his pedigree would have provided a boost.

It;s been talked about by a bunch of teams how when a young guy gets in the lineup is provides some excitement to the team.

But if it fits your narrative he will be the big injection next year, sure.

[ah123]

Looking back at how Honzek got injured at the beginning of the season, I wonder if Parekh “strong” enough to play in the NHL on a regular basis, or if he needs to put on more muscle/strength to handle NHL competition?

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by ah123

Looking back at how Honzek got injured at the beginning of the season, I wonder if Parekh “strong” enough to play in the NHL on a regular basis, or if he needs to put on more muscle/strength to handle NHL competition?

Honzek had been battling injury problems going back to his last year with the Giants iirc. Not sure that will be as much of an issue with Parekh.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Nobody expected him to come in and be the saviour. Our PP was crap, and a young player with his pedigree would have provided a boost.

It;s been talked about by a bunch of teams how when a young guy gets in the lineup is provides some excitement to the team.

But if it fits your narrative he will be the big injection next year, sure.

I think the Flames were stuck.

They got more out of a team than expected. Were winning. They didn't want to torpedo their 3rd pairing and rely on a guy with a broken foot to play 30 minutes by bringing in a guy that needs to learn the defensive side of the puck at the NHL level.

So the 11/7 option was the only path, but ...

Klapka pops and moves up the roster, meaning they'd likely have to take out Lomberg to fit him in which would be like an exorcism to the team culture.

I'm glad they kept winning, which will keep the second guessing down to all but the most silly contingent of arm chair quarterback.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by ah123

Looking back at how Honzek got injured at the beginning of the season, I wonder if Parekh “strong” enough to play in the NHL on a regular basis, or if he needs to put on more muscle/strength to handle NHL competition?

Parekh said that prior to camp he did not spend much time in the gym however this year he was the in the gym 2-3 times a week

Seems like the Flames had input and he seems like a guy that gets it

[Knut]

The Flames had the best record in the NHL for the past month. Not sure how you can justify making a change. Also, would the the change have moved the needle ? Parekh wouldn't have been able to stop the Wild from starting the season hot and the Blues going on a 12 game heater.

The Flames were also a top 10 goal scoring team in the last month of the year.

[SeanCharles]

All this Coleman talk is reminding me of Frolik.

I'm not saying they are the same player or that Coleman is about to fall off a cliff the way Frolik did but we need to be honest when looking at the makeup of the team or else mistakes can be made in order to keep an aging asset.

Tre bridged Tkachuk to keep Frolik around. Like I said not saying these two things are the same other than needing to look at things more objectively.

How many LS wingers do we have on the team and in the system?

How many spots do we have available?

It really isn't that hard to see that we have too many wingers. Farabee was on the 4th line and Zary wasn't even dressed.

Who makes the most sense for a rebuilding team to move on from while there is still value in his game?

We aren't moving Coronato, Huberdeau, Sharangovich, Zary or Klapka. Moving newly acquired Farabee seems far fetched as well. Lomberg and Pospisil can be the makeup of the 4th line so they don't really matter for the purposes of this discussion.

Who does that leave?

This isn't about not wanting to keep Coleman per se. It's just the realistic cycle of a team in our position.

We have Huberdeau, Kadri, Backlund, Weegar and potentially Andersson, depending on if he re-signs, who, most of which, play more imperative positions, since we don't quite have the same organizational depth of NHL ready C and D, to be our veteran leaders.

[shutout]

Think that the Flyers will trade for Andersson.
They have a terrible culture at the moment and need someone that can fill the second pair slot, but more important bring in leadership, drive, and character.

Flyers have 4 second round picks.
I think that 2 of those 4 picks are sent to the Flames along with Denver Barkey.
Flyers are trying to develop a bigger core so will move out a smaller forward in Barkey and will focus on bigger skilled players in the draft.

Flames will take a chance that Barkey can translate his offense from the OHL and will welcome his hard work and high character approach to the game.

Flames will then make a deal with the Stars sending either Solovyov or Kuznetsov to them along with a second round pick for Bourque.

I see the Flames drafting Reschny and Nesbitt their their first two picks and taking Horcoff in the second. Centers that belong in the ranges they are getting picked so they are not reaches but they help the Flames to fill in their biggest gap in their prospect base.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Bingo

That's a fun little world you live in!

Literally what happened this season fella. I think plenty around here found it fun, for some reason.

[shutout]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

All this Coleman talk is reminding me of Frolik.

I'm not saying they are the same player or that Coleman is about to fall off a cliff the way Frolik did but we need to be honest when looking at the makeup of the team or else mistakes can be made in order to keep an aging asset.


It really isn't that hard to see that we have too many wingers. Farabee was on the 4th line and Zary wasn't even dressed.

Who makes the most sense for a rebuilding team to move on from while there is still value in his game?
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I think that internally the decision might come down to Coleman and Farabee. Age, cost, role, and return. Maximizing that decision might dictate who they move.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Tacoman

I've been told that Rasmus has been playing on a broken foot for the last month. No practices during that time. Hats off to him for battling through that pain and doing everything he could for the team. Was he good during that time? No. Were the other options behind him better? Probably not.

Oh cool, we learned absolutely nothing at all from the Monahan situation/story. Neato.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by shutout

I think that internally the decision might come down to Coleman and Farabee. Age, cost, role, and return. Maximizing that decision might dictate who they move.

That's fair and I've heard the guys on the fan talk about Farabee's game being similar to Coleman's and that perhaps he will be his replacement so that makes some sense.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I wonder what Conroy is thinking in regards to Mantha. Bring him back on another 1 year deal? Let him walk? Big guy who can skate and score the odd time. Or is there no room for him anymore if a guy like Klapka can play in a top 6 role next season?

The last thing this team needs right now is another winger jamming up the lineup. My thought is that Conroy should be looking to use some of the wingers as trade chips to try and acquire a C.

At this point, if there is a spot for a winger then instead of Mantha I would rather see what Stromgren or Honzek can do but right now it looks like Klapka may have earned the spot.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by shutout

I think that internally the decision might come down to Coleman and Farabee. Age, cost, role, and return. Maximizing that decision might dictate who they move.

If Coleman continues to decline next season I don't see any team trading for the 26/27 year of his contract. If the Flames have an opportunity to move him, they should strike while the iron is hot.

[SilverKast]

Originally Posted by Wolven

The last thing this team needs right now is another winger jamming up the lineup. My thought is that Conroy should be looking to use some of the wingers as trade chips to try and acquire a C.

At this point, if there is a spot for a winger then instead of Mantha I would rather see what Stromgren or Honzek can do but right now it looks like Klapka may have earned the spot.

Ya I don't see a future here for Mantha at all. With the emergence of Coronato, Klapka and Zary, plus adding Farabee we have more than enough wingers. Too bad he wasn't a center, would be nice with his size if he was a Kopitar lite type of player. Saw enough of him during his few games that he didn't really impress much at all, seemed to be a passenger a little too often.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Remain competitive for what a playoff spot? That shouldn't be an issue.

Many hear wanted Backlund relegated to 4th line duty and said him and Coleman actively cost us games because they didn't score enough.

Backlund is getting old, and his play is going to start to taper off, it is time for the safety valve be taken away from the team.

The younger guys need to step up and be the vets going forward.

Thinking this is a playoff team, and there is a lot of progression left next season would be a big miscalculation.

You already have Dino talking about Parekh like he will win the Norris, while he has been vehemently against him being put in the lineup these last 4 games because he isn't ready for the NHL.

We also don't have much in the pipeline in terms for skilled forwards, obviously at center.

I wasnt against putting him in I was against you freaking out for no reason. Team was winning and kept their lineup the same. You never owned your embarassment comment...looks like the Flames will play their guy and the Wild wont. Huh

You are the one who did a 180...he needed to be added immediately but now cant help the team next year?

Full summer of training, camp, not jumping right into do or die. It apples and oranges.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Literally what happened this season fella. I think plenty around here found it fun, for some reason.

I thought it was a really fun season.
If I didn't find it fun - I would find something else to do with my time.

[Johnny Rotten]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Klapka was an absolute beast down the stretch...when he goes to the net with his stick on the ice who is gonna move him?

"only 6 goals"

yeah 4 in the last 9 games when he actually got a shot

I like Klapka. I was disappointed to hear Jason Bukula the other day when he said on Kyper and Bourne that Klapka was only a “four”. Meaning he’s only a fourth liner. Wasn’t high on Klapka at all.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Literally what happened this season fella. I think plenty around here found it fun, for some reason.

Yeah crazy misguided hockey fans cheering for wins and exceeding expectations.

We should round these idiots up!

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by shutout

I think that internally the decision might come down to Coleman and Farabee. Age, cost, role, and return. Maximizing that decision might dictate who they move.

I don’t think Farabee is movable with his contract . He was the salary dump included if we wanted Frost IMO