Bill Maher, like most comedians, rant about political correctness. He also has issues with the left being pro-palestinian and the transgendered issue. And also how the left can't talk to anyone that's not on the left. He discusses the hate mail he gets just for having Ann Coulter on his show.
This is his interview on Pod Save America where he talks about how his views now differ from the left.
Bill Maher is neither a comedian or a Liberal. He's exactly as funny as a closet Conservative can expect to be.
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They have no interest in that. Of course they could. But then they'd have to abandon their plan to send more Americans there. If they can nullify birthright citizenship they are going to have a lot of deporting to get to. I'm not sure people have really caught on to what is going on, and how truly horrible and authoritarian their new government is.
It took 8 years of Nazi rule (including a World War to further radicalize) to go from making Jew life in Germany uncomfortable in 1933 first targeting businesses, to the Nuremberg Race Laws in 1935, to resettlement with the Madagascar Plan in 1940 and eventually what we know as the Holocaust by 1941.
Trump is speed running this in months, but it's still always incremental.
Probably the best example in this forum we will ever get of quickly deteriorating conditions under authoritarian rule, that may take years to take place where everything seems ok, but escalate uncontrollably within months if you don't pay attention even as the average citizen.
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Not really. Russia is practically a monarchy. You can't change or elect a king that is Putin. Otherwise it's alright. For average citizen Russia is arguably less of a "police state" than USA. I have had some interactions with Moscow police, albeit not as a suspect, and they are cool.
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I have bought my tickets out of the country for the Friday -Saturnday night. Planes are all sold out, I will get out by train. Only three seats left when I bought it. I am monitoring channels dedicated to the status of the border control. As of right now, men CAN leave the country. Everyone says that this can change every hour. My wife and kids stay behind. The plan is to make it to Israel and try to prove my Jewish ancestry to get citizenship (I do in fact have Jewish ancestry). Wife and kids will join me lately. Despite all this, I am still somewhat nervous and not sure whether to carry out with this plan, nor whether I will be able to exit the country in Friday night.
Pointman went from this in 7 months
At what point does the US hit the "I need to get out of here" dictator threshold? The US is now getting to the 'home-grown' concentration camp stage.
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Probably the best example in this forum we will ever get of quickly deteriorating conditions under authoritarian rule, that may take years to take place where everything seems ok, but escalate uncontrollably within months if you don't pay attention even as the average citizen.
Pointman went from this in 7 months
At what point does the US hit the "I need to get out of here" dictator threshold? The US is now getting to the 'home-grown' concentration camp stage.
I'd argue Pointman was just delusional about the true state of his country before then.If you click back on his first quote it was a response to me questioning if he knew he lived in a dictatorship that he was claiming was mostly democratic(which, I mean, come on) and then says it's more of a monarchy.
But you are correct to compare the two, because I suspect most Americans also don't recognize that they no longer live in a democracy that follows the rule of law. I'm just not sure a good half of them will ever realize it, just as Pointman claimed Russia was a democracy years after Putin had clearly made it not one.
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Bill Maher is neither a comedian or a Liberal. He's exactly as funny as a closet Conservative can expect to be.
Setting aside the comedy, if you're open to talking about it, I'm curious why you think he's a closeted conservative?
I watch a lot of him, and have for a long time, and normally I find that accusation comes from people who don't.
For example - he's an atheist dope smoking environmental advocate.
His position on Trans rights is that they deserve recognition, equal rights and protection, but that in the US critique of issues surrounding minors transitioning is immediately labeled transphobia and it chills discussion.
He consistently criticizes MAGA and Trump, but also states he's not going to openly hate the half the country that votes for him.
It's cool if you want to pass, but I am genuinely curious where you're coming from on it.
In the same press conference, Trump claimed that the “homegrown” are next up. Bukele will need to be build 5 prisons to house them.
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On March 15, the Trump administration struck a $6 million agreement with Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele in which the government traded 238 people to be warehoused for a year in the Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo—CECOT—the “crown jewel” of Bukele’s deeply antidemocratic domestic security platform and where prison sentences are reportedly indefinite, with no possibility of release.
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For now, they spend 23.5 hours a day in overcrowded cages that number around 80 to 100 people, where they sleep on metal bunks with no mattresses. They will soon be enlisted in El Salvador’s euphemistic “Zero Idleness” program, an obscure labor regime that requires more than 40,000 incarcerated people to build infrastructure, manufacture commercial goods, and harvest agricultural products.
He's paying taxpayer dollars to send Americans off to be slaves. This isn't hyperbole, it's exactly what is happening. Americans still believe they live in a democracy and have a constitution that means something. Americans are deeply stupid.
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Setting aside the comedy, if you're open to talking about it, I'm curious why you think he's a closeted conservative?
I watch a lot of him, and have for a long time, and normally I find that accusation comes from people who don't.
For example - he's an atheist dope smoking environmental advocate.
His position on Trans rights is that they deserve recognition, equal rights and protection, but that in the US critique of issues surrounding minors transitioning is immediately labeled transphobia and it chills discussion.
He consistently criticizes MAGA and Trump, but also states he's not going to openly hate the half the country that votes for him.
It's cool if you want to pass, but I am genuinely curious where you're coming from on it.
He's not a conservative, closeted or otherwise.
Maher is just an example of how the Overton window has shifted over the years. He's always been a moderate liberal and has sided with the Democratic party far, faaaar more often than the GOP. At the same time, he's also been highly critical of the Democrats and ... well, can anyone really blame him for that, especially the last decade? It's sort of what happens when you don't treat political parties like sports teams. You want them to be successful, so it's ridiculous not to call out when they piss the bed.
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Typical dumb take.
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Setting aside the comedy, if you're open to talking about it, I'm curious why you think he's a closeted conservative?
I watch a lot of him, and have for a long time, and normally I find that accusation comes from people who don't.
For example - he's an atheist dope smoking environmental advocate.
His position on Trans rights is that they deserve recognition, equal rights and protection, but that in the US critique of issues surrounding minors transitioning is immediately labeled transphobia and it chills discussion.
He consistently criticizes MAGA and Trump, but also states he's not going to openly hate the half the country that votes for him.
It's cool if you want to pass, but I am genuinely curious where you're coming from on it.
To be honest I haven't watched much of him, and nothing lately so perhaps you are spot on. From what I do remember he just seems to make excuses for the right, and criticize the left. And I've seen people fall for this, and eventually end up just defending RW positions because they were so eased into it through these soft manipulations. He's the type that holds the left to standards no group of unconnected people could ever live up to(every group has crazies). I just don't see that as at all helpful in this current environment. Accept the warts on your side and worry about the real threats.
I don't trust the guy at all, so maybe I'm completely wrong on him but because he is so unfunny I just can't stand him when far better alternatives are out there.
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US campaign entices Canada tourists: “Come visit America and also maybe El Salvador!”
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“Hey Canada, we missed you, and more specifically, the potential $6 billion in travel dollars that we stand to lose!” explains the ad, appearing now on Canadian television. “We were just kidding about that 51st State thing, so why not spend your vacation dollars here? Or in one very specific Central American country that our president has a quid pro quo relationship with.”
The ads list various popular American destinations: “Visit Disney World, the Grand Canyon, or –depending on the contents of your cellphone– maybe even extend your vacation indefinitely in the most terrifying penal colony El Salvador has to offer! Book now!”
The campaign was launched by the U.S. Travel and Tourism Advisory Board, and features America-friendly Canadian celebrities like Kevin O’Leary, Wayne Gretzky, and cartoon billionaire Cyril Sneer.
From what I do remember he just seems to make excuses for the right, and criticize the left. And I've seen people fall for this, and eventually end up just defending RW positions because they were so eased into it through these soft manipulations. He's the type that holds the left to standards no group of unconnected people could ever live up to(every group has crazies). I just don't see that as at all helpful in this current environment. Accept the warts on your side and worry about the real threats.
I don't see it as making excuses for the right -- he knows where the GOP uses the mistakes of the Democrats to their advantage with voters, and he rightfully tells the Democrats to stop screwing up. It's usually some permutation of 'you keep doing [insert thing here] that drives normal people insane and turns them off, and the Republicans take advantage of [thing], stop doing that'. He comes off as exceedingly frustrated that Democrats can't seem to get out of their own way long enough to win and the GOP constantly get away with everything.
I, for one, am quite happy that there's a role-reversal going on up here and it's the CPC that keep finding ways to lose. They haven't put forward anything or anyone that says they deserve to win.
On the topic of Bill Maher. I used to watch his show but stopped a few years back. I’m not interested in shows that platform and normalize extremists like Steve Bannon.
The us has now established an exile location with El Salvador and can now just send people there by accident and claim they can’t do anything about it and El Salvador can just say they won’t send them back. Truly vile and insidious.
On the topic of Bill Maher. I used to watch his show but stopped a few years back. I’m not interested in shows that platform and normalize extremists like Steve Bannon.
I just can’t stand listening to that whiney little bitch. He’s always whining. I liked Religulous because I was starved for that perspective, but then I couldn’t even rewatch it, or get into his other shows, because he’s so ####ing annoying to listen to. He’s smug of all smug while also whining about whatever he’s being smug about. He can’t even listen to a guy do an absolutely perfect impression of him (while denying its accuracy) because he’s so annoying. There is no way this guy has an actual fan base of any kind, I don’t know why he has had so many shows
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The us has now established an exile location with El Salvador and can now just send people there by accident and claim they can’t do anything about it and El Salvador can just say they won’t send them back. Truly vile and insidious.
And they'll also be slaves. But they've been telling Americans this for awhile now, just as they told Americans they'd be implementing tariffs and it would lead to tough economic times. Well the later happened, and for some reason either people don't believe they'll actually do the former.
This is just laying the groundwork for the revocation of birth-right citizenship, which absolutely will happen. And then they will take American citizens who have now been made stateless, declare them illegal, and sell them into slavery(well, currently they are paying El Salvador to take them, but that's just details). Because these citizens will be stateless, they won't be able to go anywhere else. And as near as I can figure, you could be born to parents who weren't full citizens at the time(but may be now) and have your American citizenship revoked, even though you know no other country.
Now, this all sounds awful, but no one is stopping them, and you better start believing it's going to happen.
