[GT] Flames at Ducks - April 9, 2025

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Ncaa is over rated. Yes the elite teams are elite but there's also alot of teams low as the low in the chl.

Also false he was 20 when he leaped into the ncaa. At 19 Mkar was still playing AJHL . A pretty deep step down so players can still have NCAA eligibility at the time.

Makar was 17 turning 18 in his final AJHL season - he wasn't playing in the AJHL at 19.

Draft Year - AJHL - 17 turning 18
Draft + 1 - NCAA - 18 turning 19
Draft + 2 - NCAA- 19 turning 20

And he was 20 when he joined the Avs for the Playoffs.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

The Flames are/were one of the very worst possession teams in the league.

They have exactly one reason they have as many points as they do, Dustin Wolf.

This team is probably San Jose level bad without him. They do not deserve to be in the playoffs and I'm glad we don't have to get embarrassed watching them get demolished.

Time for next season and hopefully some reinforcements or some young player progression because this team ain't it.

Vladar is 11-11-6 on the season. SJS is 20-47-11

And Vladar has gotten the short end of the stick as far as which games he has played.

Your narrative is way off base and has been shown to be way off base countless times.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

This narrative needs a reality check

He has been given almost all of the games against the 10 worst teams in the league, dominated, and has achieved less than his tandem mate against the rest

And he choked tonight

It sucks. He is great in many facets but the argument how he has been the difference maker is not actually clear

TBH it's mostly that Vladar has been great the last 30 games and Wolf has struggled a bit.

To start the season Vladar was getting the harder starts, but actually kept himself afloat. Wolf took advantage of the easier matchups.

Vladar struggled in the middle portion of the season no matter how you slice it IMO. Wolf started to get more harder starts and flourished in that time period.

Game 1-25
Vladar: 12 GP, .900, -0.21 GSAA
Wolf: 13 GP, .918, 7.17 GSAA

Game 26-50
Vladar: 9 GP, .864, -8.84 GSAA
Wolf: 16 GP, .916, 5.91 GSAA

Game 51-78

Vladar: 8 GP, .921, 4.78 GSAA
Wolf: 21 GP, .899, 1.07 GSAA

So problem is the last 30 or so team games Vladar has been really good in limited starts. And they've probably overplayed Wolf a bit and he's struggled a little bit.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Ncaa is over rated. Yes the elite teams are elite but there's also alot of teams low as the low in the chl.

Those bad teams are not in the top-ranked conferences.

Also false he was 20 when he leaped into the ncaa. At 19 Mkar was still playing AJHL . A pretty deep step down so players can still have NCAA eligibility at the time.

Makar was born October 30, 1998. He turned 19 in October of 2017. The 2017-18 season was his first playing for UMass-Amherst. He was already there on his 19th birthday.

50 % of the nhl come from Chl graduates vs 13% from the NCAA . You know a League that exists to produce pro players vs a leugue that has some exceptional stars that want to get an education as backup . The exceptional stars are turning pro regardless of path in hockey they take but now those tht are elite in hockey have what? Usually 2 years of education more than their chl conter parts. Rarely do the athletes that are truly exceptional get a full 4 year degree.

So what? Does that make the teenagers in the CHL more physically mature than the grown men in the NCAA? No, it does not.

I maintain the chl is still better because If you don't play college your going to the echl or ahl where you are playing literally with men, not "men " aged 21,22,23". Actual.fully developed men.

But you are not playing against those men WHILE you are in the CHL.

Let's not pretend the NCAA is a higher leugue for 20,21,22,23 age players to play in vs the AHL maybe slightly better than echl.

Well, it's a good thing I never pretended that. I was comparing Makar as a 19-year-old playing in the NCAA to Parekh as an 18/19-year-old playing in the OHL.

The way currently the NCAA is set up is a joke. And to equate it as a best on best leque is a freaking force.

Nobody said the NCAA was best-on-best. You're arguing with your own imagination here.

The fact is, Hockey East has a higher NHL equivalency than the OHL. It's a tougher league.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by redmile04

Maybe wait until the game is over before a comment like this? Who looks stupid now?

I don't know you for calling out my accurate statement?

The point is the point...Flames have a meaningful home game on April 11th. The fact that they got one point last night doesn't change the narrative of the season.
The bottom teams have 51 points, the Flames have 88...MATH. To say they were a bottom 3 team and then complain about this season is wild IMO

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Those bad teams are not in the top-ranked conferences.



Makar was born October 30, 1998. He turned 19 in October of 2017. The 2017-18 season was his first playing for UMass-Amherst. He was already there on his 19th birthday.



So what? Does that make the teenagers in the CHL more physically mature than the grown men in the NCAA? No, it does not.



But you are not playing against those men WHILE you are in the CHL.



Well, it's a good thing I never pretended that. I was comparing Makar as a 19-year-old playing in the NCAA to Parekh as an 18/19-year-old playing in the OHL.



Nobody said the NCAA was best-on-best. You're arguing with your own imagination here.

The fact is, Hockey East has a higher NHL equivalency than the OHL. It's a tougher league.

He HaS NeVer played Vs men. JHes NoT mAturE eNEoUgH!

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

He HaS NeVer played Vs men. JHes NoT mAturE eNEoUgH!

Everything I said in the post you quoted is absolute fact. Engage what I said, instead of making yourself look like a dork by playing silly games with capital letters while typing something I didn't say.