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Old 04-09-2025, 11:55 PM   #581
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The Flames are/were one of the very worst possession teams in the league.

They have exactly one reason they have as many points as they do, Dustin Wolf.

This team is probably San Jose level bad without him. They do not deserve to be in the playoffs and I'm glad we don't have to get embarrassed watching them get demolished.

Time for next season and hopefully some reinforcements or some young player progression because this team ain't it.
40 points, probably not lol
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Old 04-10-2025, 12:00 AM   #582
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Colorado threw cale makar in his first nhl game in game 3 of the first round of playoffs against the 2nd best team in the leugue Calgary Flames. I think we know how that ended.
If you think Parekh is going to make the same kind of immediate impact as Makar, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
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Old 04-10-2025, 12:00 AM   #583
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Makar was also older and had played against men before

Makar played ZERO NHL games at 19 so that nonsense point can go away. Zayne will play in the NHL over a year younger than Makar ever did.
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Old 04-10-2025, 12:05 AM   #584
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If you think Parekh is going to make the same kind of immediate impact as Makar, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
I personally don’t. I don’t think it’s crazy to think he could help our power play.
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I personally don’t. I don’t think it’s crazy to think he could help our power play.
I think you and I are pretty much in agreement, but I think combustiblefuel may have been combusting a little too much tonight. Makar is a pretty unrealistic comparison for various reasons.
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Old 04-10-2025, 12:08 AM   #586
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Bet they go 1 for 6 with him.

Even that is probably the difference.
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Old 04-10-2025, 12:09 AM   #587
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I personally don’t. I don’t think it’s crazy to think he could help our power play.
He was practicing on PP1 at the morning skate...giving him one full practice isn't too crazy. He is probably coming in and they obviously think he could help the PP.

That being said they scored enough to win the game...needed a defensive stop or a save tonight.
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Old 04-10-2025, 12:10 AM   #588
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The Flames are/were one of the very worst possession teams in the league.

They have exactly one reason they have as many points as they do, Dustin Wolf.

This team is probably San Jose level bad without him. They do not deserve to be in the playoffs and I'm glad we don't have to get embarrassed watching them get demolished.

Time for next season and hopefully some reinforcements or some young player progression because this team ain't it.
I generally agree and I will say I've been frustrated with this season because we are giving up our first to Montreal, who will likely make the playoffs (possibly even with less points than us).

But now that we are where we are I must admit, the experience guys like Wolf, Coronato, Bahl and hopefully even Parekh are getting from being in this fight down to the wire has a certain value that cannot be ignored.

This will only benefit these young guys as the develop and play in a culture like the one we are building.

I know we have a long way to go in regards to the holes we are going to need to fill but this draft isn't overly deep and with how well Wolf has played we weren't going to be in the range to get a dynamic piece anyways.

I've come to peace with this season being what it is and if they get in or not it's been good for the organization overall.

It's just a shame Zary has had such bad luck and couldn't also be a part of it.
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Old 04-10-2025, 12:14 AM   #589
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Even a game like tonight is a great learning experience for Wolf...they have basically been playing playoff games
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He was practicing on PP1 at the morning skate...giving him one full practice isn't too crazy. He is probably coming in and they obviously think he could help the PP.

That being said they scored enough to win the game...needed a defensive stop or a save tonight.
I don’t disagree, but a power play goal would’ve been nice too.
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Even a game like tonight is a great learning experience for Wolf...they have basically been playing playoff games
The Flames have, a lot of the opponents haven’t.
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If you think Parekh is going to make the same kind of immediate impact as Makar, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
No I'm saying ppl are making up lame reasons not to throw him in because of age and no nhl experience. I don't think he will make an immediate impact BUT he has better junior stats than both Quinn Hughes and Makar while plying at a higher level of hockey.

Throw the kid out there and tell him just to play his game and see what his 4 first games in the nhl look like after an epic year for any chl defenseman ever
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No I'm saying ppl are making up lame reasons not to throw him in because of age and no nhl experience.
There's a reason why you don't see 19-year-old defencemen thrown into do-or-die games at the end of a regular season. It's not a ‘lame reason’. You just don't appear to understand it.

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I don't think he will make an immediate impact BUT he has better junior stats than both Quinn Hughes and Makar while plying at a higher level of hockey.
At 19, Makar was playing in the NCAA. Parekh has not been playing at a higher level of hockey than that.

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Throw the kid out there and tell him just to play his game and see what his 4 first games in the nhl look like after an epic year for any chl defenseman ever
A junior defenceman who ‘just plays his game’ is not going to have any idea what he's doing against NHL opponents. The very least he needs is a chance to learn the defensive system and get acquainted with his partner.
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Old 04-10-2025, 01:18 AM   #594
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The Flames are/were one of the very worst possession teams in the league.

They have exactly one reason they have as many points as they do, Dustin Wolf.

This team is probably San Jose level bad without him. They do not deserve to be in the playoffs and I'm glad we don't have to get embarrassed watching them get demolished.

Time for next season and hopefully some reinforcements or some young player progression because this team ain't it.

This narrative needs a reality check

He has been given almost all of the games against the 10 worst teams in the league, dominated, and has achieved less than his tandem mate against the rest

And he choked tonight

It sucks. He is great in many facets but the argument how he has been the difference maker is not actually clear
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Old 04-10-2025, 01:19 AM   #595
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There's a reason why you don't see 19-year-old defencemen thrown into do-or-die games at the end of a regular season. It's not a ‘lame reason’. You just don't appear to understand it.



At 19, Makar was playing in the NCAA. Parekh has not been playing at a higher level of hockey than that.



A junior defenceman who ‘just plays his game’ is not going to have any idea what he's doing against NHL opponents. The very least he needs is a chance to learn the defensive system and get acquainted with his partner.
Ncaa is over rated. Yes the elite teams are elite but there's also alot of teams low as the low in the chl.

Also false he was 20 when he leaped into the ncaa. At 19 Mkar was still playing AJHL . A pretty deep step down so players can still have NCAA eligibility at the time.

50 % of the nhl come from Chl graduates vs 13% from the NCAA . You know a League that exists to produce pro players vs a leugue that has some exceptional stars that want to get an education as backup . The exceptional stars are turning pro regardless of path in hockey they take but now those tht are elite in hockey have what? Usually 2 years of education more than their chl conter parts. Rarely do the athletes that are truly exceptional get a full 4 year degree.

I maintain the chl is still better because If you don't play college your going to the echl or ahl where you are playing literally with men, not "men " aged 21,22,23". Actual.fully developed men.

I'm not saying he's the next Makar or Hughes definitely BUT IMO he's coming from a leugue that's it's main purpose is to develop hockey players vs a system to fund 1 school and when your done who cares.

The NCAa is IMO a fall back leugue. The top players are making it to pro hockey regardless. The NCAA exists to produce money for that school. The majority of NCAA plays know that pro hockey is not in their future so they do the college route to get a degree with minimal hopes of a pro career.

On the other hand the chl produces the most pro hockey players for every level world wide for top teir talent .


I'm just saying throw the kid in the games to figure it out. He comes from a week make pros first and foremost system.

I'd 100% die on the hill that Makar ,Hughes,Fox etc would be at least be 25 to 30 % better had they played in the chl vs college .

Let's not pretend the NCAA is a higher leugue for 20,21,22,23 age players to play in vs the AHL maybe slightly better than echl. The top players going pro any ways will never use their 2 year degrees to make money . They will play a year or 2 at top dollar to afford to pay people in the same fields they studied for 2 years that have masters or phds to get #### done . All the way from medical fields to people that maintain their property.

The way currently the NCAA is set up is a joke. And to equate it as a best on best leque is a freaking force.

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This narrative needs a reality check

He has been given almost all of the games against the 10 worst teams in the league, dominated, and has achieved less than his tandem mate against the rest

And he choked tonight

It sucks. He is great in many facets but the argument how he has been the difference maker is not actually clear
Are you related to Vladar or just a weirdo infatuated with backup goaltenders? I believe it is you that needs a reality check. Flames would be picking in the top 10 if Vladar started more than half the season.
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Even a game like tonight is a great learning experience for Wolf...they have basically been playing playoff games
Hopefully Wolf will write in his journal "don't let in bad goals in crucial situations in important games...check".
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I'd 100% die on the hill that Makar ,Hughes,Fox etc would be at least be 25 to 30 % better had they played in the chl vs college .
I don't think it's possible for those players to be 25-30% better than they are.

I don't expect a response, because I assume you are dead on that hill.
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glad the Flames are making a lot of you look stupid for over reacting. Flames are about 40 points better than most of you expected so try and enjoy a meaningful game in April
Maybe wait until the game is over before a comment like this? Who looks stupid now?
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Maybe wait until the game is over before a comment like this? Who looks stupid now?
The end result of the game doesn't change the fact that the Flames have overachieved this season and weren't expected to even be in the playoff race late into the season. I get that people are upset they are falling out at the end but there's a reason for that and it's that the team isn't talented enough. There's not really much more to squeeze out of this group amongst more talented teams that are equally desperate to win games this time of year.
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