04-08-2025, 05:49 PM
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#401
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
Weird take. You infer that a few interviews where he rubbed you the wrong way have any bearing on how his team mates see him.
I don’t think you are very self aware. You have nothing in common with him or his team mates. Neither do I, but I understand that.
Most of us should stick to our lanes. You know how he makes you feel, and that’s it. Stop there.
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Terrible take but nothing new there from that person.
Locker morale will not take a hit it’s probably high. The older guys love infection of youth. Look around the league and our Flames when Pelts got the call. Especially a player of Zayne calibre.
I bet they are pumped even if a bean gets bumped out.
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04-08-2025, 06:05 PM
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#402
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Zambia
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
Rhett said that the players in 2004 were begging for Dion in the playoffs, they wanted the help.
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck! I always wondered why he didn't get a game or two when it was clear we were decimated
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04-08-2025, 07:01 PM
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#403
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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I don't mind the number 89 for Zayne, it has a certain je ne sais quoi about it
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04-08-2025, 07:08 PM
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#404
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by musth
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck! I always wondered why he didn't get a game or two when it was clear we were decimated
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Rhett actually went as far as to suggest that they would've won the cup if Dion got to play.
Crazy to hear directly from someone who went through it, sad to imagine what we missed out on lol.
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04-08-2025, 08:00 PM
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#405
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
Rhett said that the players in 2004 were begging for Dion in the playoffs, they wanted the help.
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Yeah, that blueline was decimated by injuries; Lydman went down game three vs the Canucks, Gauthier game six. Warrener missed games 3 and 4 vs the Wings and Brennan Evans came in for 30 seconds in one of the games, five minutes in the other. Commodore went down in the finals and Lydman came back in the lineup but was clearly hurt. Regehr left game six with a cast on his left foot and Sutter told the media he wouldn't play game 7 but he did.
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04-08-2025, 08:15 PM
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#406
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Yeah, they went through 9 defensemen and practically all of them were playing injured.
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04-08-2025, 08:19 PM
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#407
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Yeah, they went through 9 defensemen and practically all of them were playing injured.
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The entire Dcore was being held together with duct tape
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04-08-2025, 08:25 PM
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#408
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
Rhett said that the players in 2004 were begging for Dion in the playoffs, they wanted the help.
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Originally Posted by musth
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck! I always wondered why he didn't get a game or two when it was clear we were decimated
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Originally Posted by SemicolonD
Rhett actually went as far as to suggest that they would've won the cup if Dion got to play.
Crazy to hear directly from someone who went through it, sad to imagine what we missed out on lol.
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Dion didn't sign his first contract until September 2004 so he wasn't eligible to play.
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04-08-2025, 08:59 PM
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#409
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
Many of the peanut gallery have seemingly never been all hands on deck on a win at all costs project, so they say things like ‘wreck the chemistry’ or ‘he didn’t earn it.’
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On a project like that, adding a new person at the last minute doesn't usually help much. This is known as Brooks's Law; it's a real phenomenon. It's not about chemistry, but a problem of communication and learning. Helping the new guy get up to speed can cost more time and effort than the extra productivity he adds for the short time he's there.
If the project is easily broken down into independent tasks, Brooks's Law isn't a problem. But if it requires constant close cooperation among team members (like, for instance, hockey), it can really bite you in the behind.
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04-08-2025, 09:04 PM
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#410
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Originally Posted by Buff
Dion didn't sign his first contract until September 2004 so he wasn't eligible to play.
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Players were probably pushing to move that process forward, so he could play.
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04-08-2025, 09:09 PM
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#411
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Franchise Player
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Rhett is kinda clickbait these days so IDK...you would think someone may have mentioned it in the last 20 years
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04-08-2025, 09:16 PM
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#412
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
Weird take. You infer that a few interviews where he rubbed you the wrong way have any bearing on how his team mates see him.
I don’t think you are very self aware. You have nothing in common with him or his team mates. Neither do I, but I understand that.
Most of us should stick to our lanes. You know how he makes you feel, and that’s it. Stop there.
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Didn’t really have anything else to base it on. So yes, the interviews I watched.
Seemed like he was trying to portray that he was uber confident. But it didn’t look genuine. I chalked it up to being 18. I think penticton and camp opened his eyes. I hoped he would take it to heart and it would drive him to get better and talk with his on ice performance.
Guessing we will find out this september.
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04-08-2025, 09:59 PM
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#413
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And I Don't Care...
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: The land of the eternally hopeful
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff
Dion didn't sign his first contract until September 2004 so he wasn't eligible to play.
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Could he not have been signed and then allowed to play? I always assumed that was the case and Darryl didn’t want to for…Sutter reasons I suppose.
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04-08-2025, 10:12 PM
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#414
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Mightyfire89
Could he not have been signed and then allowed to play? I always assumed that was the case and Darryl didn’t want to for…Sutter reasons I suppose.
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Like in the middle of the Stanley Cup Finals?
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04-08-2025, 10:17 PM
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#415
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And I Don't Care...
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: The land of the eternally hopeful
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Like in the middle of the Stanley Cup Finals?
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I don’t know. Was it not possible?
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04-08-2025, 10:21 PM
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#416
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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It was pre cap CBA, anything went.
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04-08-2025, 10:22 PM
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#417
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Franchise Player
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who knows, Dion was probably on a bender
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04-08-2025, 10:46 PM
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#418
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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I don't know what the rules were in 2004 regarding when teams could sign their drafted players and when the player would be eligible for NHL games. As someone suggests, it was probably allowed but I really don't know.
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04-08-2025, 10:55 PM
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#419
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Rhett is kinda clickbait these days so IDK...you would think someone may have mentioned it in the last 20 years
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It was discussed in the papers, pretty sure, and not just here at CP (those days of the forum lost in internet ether), so it's not Warrener making things up. Different CBA rules then, but the same as Hull in 1986, Iginla in 1996 and I think Comrie for the Oilers in 2001, starting careers in the playoffs.
Red Deer was eliminated late April 2004 so just around same time Flames were dumping the Wings. Having lost Gauthier in R1, and using Brennan Evans for 2 shifts vs Detroit, talk was more that bodies were needed more than Phaneuf being an impact player.
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04-08-2025, 10:55 PM
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#420
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Franchise Player
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It may not have been about when Phaneuf could sign, but when he would have been eligible to play. The Red Deer Rebels went deep in the playoffs that year: Phaneuf played 19 postseason games for them. They weren't eliminated until April 25, by which the Flames were well into their second-round series against the Red Wings.
I don't remember ever hearing of a junior player being signed during the NHL playoffs and playing immediately. I hope someone more knowledgeable can tell us if it's specifically against the rules.
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