Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-07-2025, 03:25 PM   #241
Tbull8
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by howard_the_duck View Post
The way I see it, it's all upside to get Parekh in ASAP, when the games still matter:
  • He's one of the four best D in the Flames entire organization
  • It doesn't burn his rookie year in his ELC
  • It gives him exposure to a playoff race and all that entails

Hell, even if he plays very sheltered minutes and gets some prime PP time, he's unquestionably adding a skillset the team doesn't have. The kid's got confidence in spades, now see what he can do.
He's also never played against pros and you'd be throwing him in in must win games that even a single mistake can be the difference between ending the season or not. At least let the kid have a full practice and watch a game sitting next to Conroy so he can digest it a bit
Tbull8 is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Tbull8 For This Useful Post:
Old 04-07-2025, 03:28 PM   #242
howard_the_duck
#1 Goaltender
 
howard_the_duck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbull8 View Post
He's also never played against pros and you'd be throwing him in in must win games that even a single mistake can be the difference between ending the season or not. At least let the kid have a full practice and watch a game sitting next to Conroy so he can digest it a bit
Perhaps, but the upside outweighs the downside.

It's very unlikely they make the playoffs. They are a team that struggles to score, and their PP has been mediocre since forever.

He gives a shot in the arm to exactly what the team is lacking. And if they miss, it won't be because they sat Jake Bean for Zayne Parekh.
howard_the_duck is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to howard_the_duck For This Useful Post:
Old 04-07-2025, 03:30 PM   #243
Finger Cookin
Franchise Player
 
Finger Cookin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Exp:
Default

He won't be able to focus on the game with Conroy chewing his ear off
Finger Cookin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2025, 03:33 PM   #244
Paulie Walnuts
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Exp:
Default

Rumours from San Jose is that Zayne has decided to retire. The Flames and fans wanting him to learn the culture on the sidelines, go through a physical, fitness testing, and mental aptitude test along with going through a training camp by himself was too much.
Paulie Walnuts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2025, 03:44 PM   #245
konradical
Backup Goalie
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts View Post
Rumours from San Jose is that Zayne has decided to retire. The Flames and fans wanting him to learn the culture on the sidelines, go through a physical, fitness testing, and mental aptitude test along with going through a training camp by himself was too much.
All you do is whine buddy lmao

Complain, argue and whine
konradical is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2025, 04:02 PM   #246
TheIronMaiden
Franchise Player
 
TheIronMaiden's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by howard_the_duck View Post
The way I see it, it's all upside to get Parekh in ASAP, when the games still matter:
  • He's one of the four best D in the Flames entire organization
  • It doesn't burn his rookie year in his ELC
  • It gives him exposure to a playoff race and all that entails

Hell, even if he plays very sheltered minutes and gets some prime PP time, he's unquestionably adding a skillset the team doesn't have. The kid's got confidence in spades, now see what he can do.
Yeah let him play games, also let him take a practice or a skate, and let him watch some team video with his D partner. This isn't beer league.
TheIronMaiden is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2025, 04:03 PM   #247
BigFlameDog
First Line Centre
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: West of Calgary
Exp:
Default

SOME of y'all think this NHL stuff is easy peasy.
__________________
This Signature line was dated so I changed it.
BigFlameDog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2025, 04:06 PM   #248
dammage79
Franchise Player
 
dammage79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFlameDog View Post
SOME of y'all think this NHL stuff is easy peasy.
For a kid like Parekh, likely is. For me or you, or Jesse Puljujarvi, not so much.
__________________
"Everybody's so desperate to look smart that nobody is having fun anymore" -Jackie Redmond
dammage79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2025, 04:07 PM   #249
TheIronMaiden
Franchise Player
 
TheIronMaiden's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
Exp:
Default

You have to put players in a position to succeed. It is crazy talk to me that the same people who complain that the Flames "have no long term plan" want a 19 year old kid to play right away no matter what!

the number one focus should be the player development. the result of this season means nothing compared to that. When Zayne was in preseason games in was pretty obvious he wasn't ready, I don't think it's wrong to give him a little more time.
TheIronMaiden is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to TheIronMaiden For This Useful Post:
Old 04-07-2025, 04:22 PM   #250
FlamesAddiction
Franchise Player
 
FlamesAddiction's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden View Post
You have to put players in a position to succeed. It is crazy talk to me that the same people who complain that the Flames "have no long term plan" want a 19 year old kid to play right away no matter what!
Honestly, it sounds like such an Oilers thing to do.

Maybe they determine he is ready immediately, or maybe not. But just throwing out there to sink or swim without consideration lacks forethought. I trust that they will make the right decision, whatever it ends up being. But if they determine that he needs a bit of time, it shouldn't be taken as something unfair or unreasonable.

I do hope he is ready and we can see him in action, but I won't be upset if he isn't.
__________________
"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
FlamesAddiction is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2025, 04:25 PM   #251
jaikorven
Scoring Winger
 
jaikorven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: stuck in BC watching the nucks
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by konradical View Post
All you do is whine buddy lmao

Complain, argue and whine
Out of thanks but oh so accurate, thank you.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by ResAlien View Post
Let us not befoul this glorious day with talk of the anal gland drippings that are HERO charts.
jaikorven is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to jaikorven For This Useful Post:
Old 04-07-2025, 04:26 PM   #252
TrentCrimmIndependent
Franchise Player
 
TrentCrimmIndependent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFlameDog View Post
SOME of y'all think this NHL stuff is easy peasy.
Nope, but often times the best way to figure it out is a little trial by fire.

How do you know where/what needs to be improved without some experience in the position you're hoping to grow into.

Slotting kids into late season games has never had this much debate and consternation. Why is it now?

Was any one concerned about John? No, because he was an elite talent. Parekh is also that.

The down side is maybe you lose off of a mistake or two, and the player gains valuable experience to take with him over the summer. How terrible!

Jesus it's not life or death. And prospects aren't "broken" this way. Not ones with world class ability.
__________________
TrentCrimmIndependent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2025, 04:58 PM   #253
Paulie Walnuts
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by konradical View Post
All you do is whine buddy lmao

Complain, argue and whine
Don't call me buddy, you can use the block feature. Looking at your thanks ar ehilarious with 2 of the worst posters on this webpage.
Paulie Walnuts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2025, 05:06 PM   #254
Bingo
Owner
 
Bingo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigThief View Post
I mean it sure feels like excuses when one side brought up Cale Makar, then the other acted like it was unheard of and he's the only one ever that's done that. Every reason why he should is meet with a roadblock, including not wanting to split up..Joel Hanley. Those are excuses and looking for reasons not to play a young player.

If anyone actually started with saying they'd like to see him in a practice or two first then sure, that I can understand. But questioning is physically and mental preparation going in and saying it would be "irresponsible" to play him is pure nonsesne.
You're using a generational talent as the example?

That almost makes the opposite argument as it puts more pressure on him. Additionally Makar was 15 months older.

Look I said above that I'm good with him playing if it's a third pairing ahead of Bean and on the powerplay. Or if they go with 11/7.

But I wouldn't do it tonight without even a pregame skate.

And that's logic again. Not hoops and excuses.
Bingo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2025, 05:08 PM   #255
Bingo
Owner
 
Bingo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts View Post
Rumours from San Jose is that Zayne has decided to retire. The Flames and fans wanting him to learn the culture on the sidelines, go through a physical, fitness testing, and mental aptitude test along with going through a training camp by himself was too much.
Was this funnier in your head?
Bingo is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 14 Users Say Thank You to Bingo For This Useful Post:
Old 04-07-2025, 05:09 PM   #256
Finger Cookin
Franchise Player
 
Finger Cookin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Exp:
Default

The most recent headlines to do with Parekh were mentioning his goal scoring alongside Bobby Orr. Like it or not, fair or not, people are going to read those kind of headlines and be excited about a potential generational talent joining the club. I don't see that as a huge stretch given the recent headlines.

So comparing him to another generational talent doesn't seem far fetched in that context. Not accounting for how accurate the comparison is.
Finger Cookin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2025, 05:10 PM   #257
Bingo
Owner
 
Bingo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

And I get it.

I want to see him play too. A discussion about wanting to see the kid before the end of the season would be agreed upon by everyone.

It's the crowd that has to find a reason it's malpractice if he doesn't play 44 hours after getting eliminated that drive an argument.
Bingo is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Bingo For This Useful Post:
Old 04-07-2025, 05:28 PM   #258
Snuffleupagus
Franchise Player
 
Snuffleupagus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Exp:
Default

Why the hurry people, he just turned 19 and it's not like he's going to put up 2 PPG and lead the Flames to the promise land.
Snuffleupagus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2025, 05:33 PM   #259
Sylvanfan
Appealing my suspension
 
Sylvanfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction View Post
Honestly, it sounds like such an Oilers thing to do.
The Oiler thing would be to force him to play if he said he had a sore neck and would like for a doctor to take a look at it. Than blame him afterwards for not being able to dig in and demand he pay the team to trade him.
__________________
"Some guys like old balls"
Patriots QB Tom Brady
Sylvanfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2025, 05:36 PM   #260
BigThief
First Line Centre
 
BigThief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2024
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo View Post
You're using a generational talent as the example?

That almost makes the opposite argument as it puts more pressure on him. Additionally Makar was 15 months older.
Makar was considered a top prospect but not a generational one at the time. That misses the point of what I said and also misses that I named a plethora of other players
__________________
MMF is the tough as nails cop that "plays by his own rules". The force keeps suspending him when he crosses the line but he keeps coming back and then cracks a big case.
-JiriHrdina
BigThief is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:33 AM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy