2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Bahl makes top 4 on a hell of a lot of teams. He could replace the 4 on a lot of good teams right now, with little to no on ice downgrade.

This isn’t a knock on Ball it’s slotting guys right and getting the right partners for players.

We need better skating, more puck moving, better first passes, more engagement in the offensive zone.

Just because Parekh is an offensive dynamo doesn’t mean you straddle him with defensive dmen that’s why I used the Hughes and Makar comparisons for partners. Just like Gio had Brodie.

If you can get bigger players that can skate and push the puck better but every team is looking for that. So build with what you have. Not try to force things.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Good player, but he’s going to get paid a lot this summer. Something along the lines of 6 x 7mil.

Yeah it doesn’t make sense. Whole point of getting rid of Andersson is the age curve and contract and the assets we can get back.

[Finger Cookin]

Worrying about players being claimed on waivers in October here in April. We're raising the bar around here.

[stemit14]

My hope in the offseason is that Conroy can get a good return for Andersson and finds a way to offload Sharangovich - not concerned about getting a high return for Sharangovich. Just don’t want to have to add to trade him. The flames are pretty deep with defence and winger prospects so I think it makes sense to move these players.

I have mentioned before that I would like to see Zary given more opportunity at centre. Moving Sharangovich and not re-signing Rooney could potentially make it so Backlund could become the teams 4th line centre while Zary and frost become the 2nd/3rd line centres. Frost is looking like he could be turning into a young Backlund so he could be matched against tougher opponents while Zary’s line gets the more favourable matchups.

Maybe something like this:

Posposil-Kadri-Farabee
Huberdeau-Zary-Coronato
Suniev-Frost-Klapka
Lomberg-Backlund-Coleman

4th line becomes a strength instead of a weakness. Teams could be welcome to match up top lines against Backlund and Coleman. Zary and Coleman get a chance to build chemistry and can split face offs based on strong sides.

[dissentowner]

I don't understand the want to trade Sharangovich. The guy has been battling a high ankle sprain most of the year and we know what he can do when he is healthy. You don't shuttle out a 30+ goal scorer you just signed when he has little to no value due to a nagging injury, that's just stupid. The guys shot is elite.

[TheScorpion]

Especially to put both Suniev and Klapka on the third line. Not happening.

Not to mention that a hobbled Sharangovich has still outscored both Pospisil and Farabee, both of whom are stapled to Kadri in that scenario?

[Niemo]

I'm pushing the trade Rasmus narrative very hard. Coleman would be 2nd on my list. After that, I'm good with keeping Kadri, Weegar and Backlund as vets.

I don't care a ton for Farabee or Sharangovich but don't feel like their value is worth trading away right now.

Rasmus for a 1st + young player/prospect (1st equivalent).

Coleman for a late 1st or you guys player like Mavrik Bourque?

[savardandjokinen]

I'd be interested to see a fourth line of Lomberg-Pospisil-Klapka next year. Pain in the ass to play against, defensively responsible, and would create energy for the team.

Huberdeau-Kadri-Coronato
Zary-Frost-Sharangovich
Farabee-Backlund-Coleman
Lomberg-Pospisil-Klapka

Have the 13th/14th forwards be a combo of Kerins, Stromgren and Morton and have them inserted for injuries or for guys on that 4th line. Maybe you bring back Kirkland and have him as an extra as well

Let Mantha and Rooney walk

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

I'd be interested to see a fourth line of Lomberg-Pospisil-Klapka next year. Pain in the ass to play against, defensively responsible, and would create energy for the team.

Huberdeau-Kadri-Coronato
Zary-Frost-Sharangovich
Farabee-Backlund-Coleman
Lomberg-Pospisil-Klapka

Have the 13th/14th forwards be a combo of Kerins, Stromgren and Morton and have them inserted for injuries or for guys on that 4th line. Maybe you bring back Kirkland and have him as an extra as well

Let Mantha and Rooney walk

How would that line be considered defensively responsible?

[The Fonz]

Offload a guy who has yet to play a single game under the contract you signed him to?

That would cause a lot of damage to Conroy and the Calgary Flames going forward.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Coleman for a late 1st or you guys player like Mavrik Bourque?

Maybe Dallas considers that a better return than the 2nd round draft pick they might receive from an offer sheet for Bourque? Assuming they don't want to match the offer sheet.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

Worrying about players being claimed on waivers in October here in April. We're raising the bar around here.

Who is worrying?

I assume this is a plan that the management group would be discussing regularly about. No decision would be made in a vacuum.

Acquiring and developing prospects is good and all but if they never get real chances at the NHL roster then what's the point? Before we go and acquire a roster player to play D a decision should be made about retaining and using the players in the system and how to give them an On Ramp to graduate.

In the past, the Flames would go get vets and say that the prospects need to outplay the vets to get a spot, but that never felt honest because the vet was always given a super long leash and we never really saw the prospects get a real chance. Based on what Conroy has said, I am hopeful that this iteration of the team would leave spots open for the prospects... and not just undeniable prospects like Parekh.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Andersson
Coleman
Backlund

Those are the next 3 to offload. You replace them from within not free agency and the raises guys get should get us to the floor.

You can get 3 young building blocks for the future in. At that point maybe Kadri asks for a trade or he stays no big deal.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Andersson
Coleman
Backlund

Those are the next 3 to offload. You replace them from within not free agency and the raises guys get should get us to the floor.

You can get 3 young building blocks for the future in. At that point maybe Kadri asks for a trade or he stays no big deal.

Yes to the first two, but if Backlund wants to stay he is an ideal mentor for all the prospects that will be joining the team in 1-3 years.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Niemo

If Conroy signed a UFA 30 yr old no3 defensemen to an 8 yr deal even at 7.5MM, I think we would all be pissed. The ones that still support resigning Rasmus need to think about this. He HAS to go!

I wouldn't be mad if it was Gavrikov or Ekblad.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Groot

Yes to the first two, but if Backlund wants to stay he is an ideal mentor for all the prospects that will be joining the team in 1-3 years.

Yes not in the offseason he can choose if he wants to be traded in season or not. But he will become a UFA after that and will be 37 when the next deal begins. He might even call it a career if he wants.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I didn’t say 3. But for sure we get lit up and our PK was pretty bad up until now. Going for 15th in goals against to 20-25 would sink us.

You didn't say three, but the person I was originally replying to did.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Wolven

If next year the list becomes "Weegar, Bahl, Pachal, Bean, Mironmanov, Parekh, Solovyov" then I believe that we would easily see our goals against climb by the "3 goals". But Andersson is really just the last straw of a larger transition.

If the Flames gave up three more goals per game, they would be giving up an average of 5.93 goals per game. Here is the list of teams that have ever given up 5.93 goals per game in an NHL season:





That's right. It has never happened. The 1974-75 Washington Capitals hold the record at 5.58 – an expansion team composed almost entirely of what were then replacement-level players. Since the NHL had just expanded to 18 teams and the WHA to 14, there were as many major pro hockey teams in North America as there are now – but few Americans, almost no Europeans, and zero players from behind the Iron Curtain. The talent level of the bottom teams was abysmal, far worse than you will ever find in a league of established teams with a salary cap. And yet that still did not make any team give up three goals per game more than this year's Flames have.

You are simply overstating your case massively, based on a faulty understanding of how goals are prevented and how much any one player contributes to that process.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Niemo

I'm pushing the trade Rasmus narrative very hard. Coleman would be 2nd on my list. After that, I'm good with keeping Kadri, Weegar and Backlund as vets.

I don't care a ton for Farabee or Sharangovich but don't feel like their value is worth trading away right now.

Rasmus for a 1st + young player/prospect (1st equivalent).

Coleman for a late 1st or you guys player like Mavrik Bourque?

Anderson is not worth basically 2 first round picks.

If Dallas can take on Coleman's contract, they would simply keep Bourque at a lesser cap.

[Nelson]

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