2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[dino7c]

He asked who the top UFA dmen were...I listed a few off the top of my head. Flames will also look at trade options like with Bahl and obviously there are some internal candidates knocking at the door. This idea that they will just trade Andersson (still a big maybe) and just go with the same group minus him couldn't be further from reality. Like its not happening.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He is being paid to play in the NHL his performance in an exhibition series doesn’t matter.

Compared to Rantanen the other big name winger who would have been available year 50/58 isn’t worth 15M. He should take less than Rantanen but I understand he will get more as he will have a bidding war.

Lol. An NHL exhibition, and best on best, against one of the best defense cores we've ever seen. And he was one of the biggest factors on the biggest stages in years.

If you're evaluating talent/ability in that type of situation, of course you consider it.

Interest in Binnington shot up due to 4N and its springboarded his play since.

You sound like a robot - it is nhl contract so all else is obsolete! Beep boop beep.

Cmon dude.

Sounds like blind hate without substance and you're being dismissive to downplay the evidence that Marner has game.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Rantanen didn't get to UFA though...he could have gotten more money per but one year less term. Not to say that 15M is realistic, Marner could probably get 14 if money is all he is after.

Exactly. I could see a few teams offering him $14 million… so a team stepping forward with $15 million would separate themselves from the pack. That’s what it often takes for teams that are considered less desirable to get top players.

Chicago might be an example. With the rumours of Bedard’s potential hesitancy to sign this summer, they no longer have the luxury of being patient with their rebuild. They have to get better now and they have to get players to help Bedard get better.

Like I said… I think it would be a mistake for the flames to pay Marner $15 million and I don’t think Conroy will do that. I’m just saying that overpaying players to come play for Calgary is usually the only way to get it done.

Really hoping Conroy stays away from big game hunting in free agency again this summer. Build from within and see what happens. Keep giving young players (Zary/Coronato/Parekh/Suniev/Klapka/Brz/etc.) bigger roles on the team. If young players take a big step and the team is competitive - great! If they struggle next year with young players taking on bigger roles and end up with a top pick in a draft that has an extremely elite prospect at the top - great!

[keenan87]

What are the thoughts around Kevin Bahl? Is he a legitimate top 4 dman now? Will he be a core member of the defense moving forward?

[CliffFletcher]

If the Flames do trade Andersson, they’ll almost certainly bring in a UFA as a replacement. Not a top-tier guy, but someone who can play in a 4-5 slot on a weak defence.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

If the Flames do trade Andersson, they’ll almost certainly bring in a UFA as a replacement. Not a top-tier guy, but someone who can play in a 4-5 slot on a weak defence.

Well there's a really mid guy named Ekblad that we can bring in here.

[SuperMatt18]

Gavrikov is a guy I think they would be a fit as a veteran LD that can help guys like Parekh or Bryzstewicz moving forward

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by keenan87

What are the thoughts around Kevin Bahl? Is he a legitimate top 4 dman now? Will he be a core member of the defense moving forward?

I have no doubt Bahl is a top 4 in the league now and has a ceiling of being an elite shutdown D in the league (like Team Canada candidate). He already leads the league in stick checks. Look at the Flames record when he was out with concussion. Look at his +\- compared to his D partner Andersson. How many guys his size are that effective and take so few penalties? Kevin Bahl is a stud and if I was Conman I would try to sign him long term ASAP.

[kobasew19]

I could see Bahl work well with Parekh. A great shut down D to mentor and let Parekh do his thing offensively.

[Flames1217]

Long term I see Bahl holding down the 3rd pairing with Pachal (4 years from now let's say).

They would be eating some hard matchups and he would obviously deployed on the PK1.

If you have Bahl on your third pair, you more than likely have an awesome D-Corps.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Bahl is a good 4 or 5 he is not a top pairing dman. He likely ends up on the 3rd pairing as a really good 5.

We can look at Colorado and Vancouver how to find a partner for Parekh and Bahl ain’t it.

He needs a partner that can skate and roam around and also cover the ice as he roams around trying to create.

And yeah the Flames will likely signs someone to fill Andersson spot but we still will end up with a mostly patchwork group and a rookie and Weegar.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Bahl is a good 4 or 5 he is not a top pairing dman. He likely ends up on the 3rd pairing as a really good 5.

We can look at Colorado and Vancouver how to find a partner for Parekh and Bahl ain’t it.

He needs a partner that can skate and roam around and also cover the ice as he roams around trying to create.

And yeah the Flames will likely signs someone to fill Andersson spot but we still will end up with a mostly patchwork group and a rookie and Weegar.

long term, Morin might be that guy.

Ideally speaking he probably tops out as a #4 but the kid has speed, bite to his game and plays a two way brand of hockey. He is the same size as Toews and could rover if needed. Also has a laser beam slapper.

What you need is someone who will compliment his game to a T, who knows which defender that will be though.

I also believe a similar defender will be needed to cover for Bru but yet again we may already have him in the system with Grushnikov.

Time will tell folks!

[CalgaryFan1988]

Bahl is only 24 with still a lot of room to grow. He's only a 3rd pairing guy right now though IMO.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Bahl is a good 4 or 5 he is not a top pairing dman. He likely ends up on the 3rd pairing as a really good 5.

We can look at Colorado and Vancouver how to find a partner for Parekh and Bahl ain’t it.

He needs a partner that can skate and roam around and also cover the ice as he roams around trying to create.

And yeah the Flames will likely signs someone to fill Andersson spot but we still will end up with a mostly patchwork group and a rookie and Weegar.

Bahl makes top 4 on a hell of a lot of teams. He could replace the 4 on a lot of good teams right now, with little to no on ice downgrade.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Gavrikov is a guy I think they would be a fit as a veteran LD that can help guys like Parekh or Bryzstewicz moving forward

Good player, but he’s going to get paid a lot this summer. Something along the lines of 6 x 7mil.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He needs a partner that can skate and roam around and also cover the ice as he roams around trying to create.

I can really see Kuzy growing into that role, starting next season. I wouldn't mind seeing a Kuznetsov - Parekh pairing grow together like they attempted with Valimaki - Andersson. That said, Weegar probably ends up being Parekh's partner in his first couple of seasons.

[dammage79]

Sounds weird but I think that Conny could go after Jamie Oleksiak in the offseason. I think he wants another mutant to pair with his two incoming averaged sized offersinve right D men. Like they say about deadline day, a lot of conversations that happen tend to spill into the offseason or the draft floor.

[Burning Beard]

Bahl is easily a top 4. I guess he doesn't play a flashy game at all so maybe that's why he's underrated on here.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by dino7c

He asked who the top UFA dmen were...I listed a few off the top of my head. Flames will also look at trade options like with Bahl and obviously there are some internal candidates knocking at the door. This idea that they will just trade Andersson (still a big maybe) and just go with the same group minus him couldn't be further from reality. Like its not happening.

It's fine. I wasn't trying to attack you, I just wanted to give a more complete answer as I felt it was relevant to people who were looking for UFA assistance to the D group should Andersson be traded.

I absolutely hope that they do not waste any of Andersson's value on bringing in a replacement D. Andersson is our best trade chip at this time and needs to bring back the best C possible. An Andersson trade needs to bring back a high value C directly or valuable draft capital that can be used to trade up or select a C that fits our need. Reducing the quality of the C that we get in order to bring back a D too is just a waste.

Also, my opinion is that the Flames need to stop bringing in replacement level vets and start opening the door to our prospects. Losing any of these guys to waivers because we have Bean / Hanley / <other replacement level player> is really... dumb.
- Solovyov (24) has looked good in his small samples playing with the club this season. I felt that was true with my eyeball test when he was playing with Pachal and someone was saying his fancy stats were good. Chances are that if the Flames do not give him a chance that some other team will grab him off waivers next year.
- Kuznetsov (23) might need waivers next year too (kinda hard to tell with the capwages waiver tool) and my understanding is that he looks good and is developing nicely
- Poirier (22) was sidelined by injuries but he has good stats (best on the Wranglers D right now) and could still be an NHLer if given a chance. It is interesting to see that the Wranglers have used him on the shootout a number of times. I believe he needs to pass through waivers next season (assuming he gets a new contract).
- Brzustewicz (20), Grushnikov (22), and Morin (20) are good prospects that are going to need a cup of coffee soon to see if they can earn a spot but I believe we have room still on their respective waiver status.

If there is ever a time to open a spot to these guys, next season is really that time. The team should set it up in such a way that they are competing against each other for a spot, and not some random vet (Bean / Hanley / Barrie / etc.).

[Niemo]

If Conroy signed a UFA 30 yr old no3 defensemen to an 8 yr deal even at 7.5MM, I think we would all be pissed. The ones that still support resigning Rasmus need to think about this. He HAS to go!