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Old 04-04-2025, 12:25 PM   #13341
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I think Klapka is.gonna be great and need moved up the lineup
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There are always bad teams...playoffs will be 90-96 points as usual. Some will go up and some will go down.
Out of those teams listed most of them are relying on young players to carry their teams, and should be taking another step.

The Flames have relied on the vets to carry them, and nothing outside of Parekh coming in the system. They are a good bet to regress.
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Old 04-04-2025, 12:28 PM   #13343
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The NHL's first octogenarian running a team
Youth isn't all it's cracked up to be. There have been plenty of young dinosaurs running NHL teams over the years.
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Old 04-04-2025, 12:29 PM   #13344
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If they somehow bring in Marner, I'd bring in Bennett as well.

Huberdeau - Kadri - Marner
Zary - Frost - Coronato
Pospisil - Bennett - Coleman
Farabee - Backlund - Klapka
Lomberg
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Trade Sharangovich if you can get anything and save some cap.
Terrible lol.
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Old 04-04-2025, 12:33 PM   #13345
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Best case scenario it works for 1 year.

Signing Marner and not trading for Zegras makes more sense though. But i think it will take way too much money to outbid other teams.
Ignoring both Marner and Zegras and sending an offer sheet to Mavrik Bourque makes way more sense. Lower acquisition cost, lower risk, unlikely to impact the tank next year, and younger with potential to really pan out in a year or two.
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Out of those teams listed most of them are relying on young players to carry their teams, and should be taking another step.

The Flames have relied on the vets to carry them, and nothing outside of Parekh coming in the system. They are a good bet to regress.
Other than the rookie of the year...lol
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Other than the rookie of the year...lol
That is great, we are still middle of the pack in oldest teams in the league with Parekh coming.
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Old 04-04-2025, 12:50 PM   #13348
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Marner would score 100 pts with the Flames? That's asking him to do a lot of heavy lifting to do that on one of the lowest-scoring teams in the league. Even if adding Zegras
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That is great, we are still middle of the pack in oldest teams in the league with Parekh coming.
You said the Flames are carried by old vets...middle of the pack in youngest teams too

Zary, Coranato, Klapka, Bahl, Frost, Wolf, all improving

Zayne and IMO at least one more young D incoming. I know you cant wait to throw in the towel in next season but the Flames are currently playing far better than even the first half Flames this season. They deserve most of their wins.

Not really worried about the Sharks making up 30+ points...Flames improve their OT record and they are a divisional team.
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There are always bad teams...playoffs will be 90-96 points as usual. Some will go up and some will go down.
But the point is that the West has had a very strong set of intentionally tanking teams (Sharks, Blackhawks, Ducks) combined with some unintentionally bad teams (Preds and Kraken). The Flames attempting to tank below those 5 teams this year didn't work.

What Team Tank needs to hope for next season is that all of those teams take a step up the standings and make room for the Flames to drop.

I don't think the Canucks will switch to tank mode and the other teams that are newly signaling rebuild are in the east (Flyers, Islanders, Bruins).
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Old 04-04-2025, 01:01 PM   #13351
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But the point is that the West has had a very strong set of intentionally tanking teams (Sharks, Blackhawks, Ducks) combined with some unintentionally bad teams (Preds and Kraken). The Flames attempting to tank below those 5 teams this year didn't work.

What Team Tank needs to hope for next season is that all of those teams take a step up the standings and make room for the Flames to drop.

I don't think the Canucks will switch to tank mode and the other teams that are newly signaling rebuild are in the east (Flyers, Islanders, Bruins).
Its not happening, Sharks have 50 points
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Old 04-04-2025, 01:03 PM   #13352
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I think the best case scenario is the flames stay competitive and something drastic happens to the knights
Unlikely but you never know. No one wouldve guessed the Bruins and Rangers wouldve fallen off as hard as they did this year
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You said the Flames are carried by old vets...middle of the pack in youngest teams too

Zary, Coranato, Klapka, Bahl, Frost, Wolf, all improving

Zayne and IMO at least one more young D incoming. I know you cant wait to throw in the towel in next season but the Flames are currently playing far better than even the first half Flames this season. They deserve most of their wins.

Not really worried about the Sharks making up 30+ points...Flames improve their OT record and they are a divisional team.
Klapka has played like 20 games. Forst is not improving in fact his numbers have nose dived since he came here.

Bahl isn't a difference maker. He is a good depth piece. Zary and Coronato are pretty much rookies, the next step comes next season. What are you comparing to them improving including Wolf? Brief play when the team thew in the towel?

Those OT losses next year just as likely become regulation losses. Lots can happen.
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Old 04-04-2025, 01:16 PM   #13354
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I think the best case for the flames next year is to trade like Rasmus and Coleman in the offseason then stay somewhat competitive for most of the year, then drop off after trade deadline end up like 27th and win the lottery to draft McKenna
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Old 04-04-2025, 01:16 PM   #13355
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Frost has been playing great...there is more to hockey than than just stats

Same old tank crowd throwing in the towel on next season already lol.

You guys might be right...I think the Flames with 20M in cap space and a potential star offensive dman coming in could just as easily be a 100 point team.
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Old 04-04-2025, 01:17 PM   #13356
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Best case would be that the Wild fall out of the playoffs or close because Rossi is a non factor. Then a trade around Andersson for Rossi this summer.
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Klapka has played like 20 games. Forst is not improving in fact his numbers have nose dived since he came here.

Bahl isn't a difference maker. He is a good depth piece. Zary and Coronato are pretty much rookies, the next step comes next season. What are you comparing to them improving including Wolf? Brief play when the team thew in the towel?

Those OT losses next year just as likely become regulation losses. Lots can happen.
The other thing about making all these moves to improve for next year is we would bury anyone from getting the call and getting a chance.

What's Wolf season look like if we kept Markstrom?

Trade Rasmus so Parekh can play and play in a PP role. Weegar is better than Andersson on the PP and is having back-to-back career years since taking Rasmus spot on the top PP. He will move to the 2nd unit once Parekh is here. Rasmus will be right off the PP.

Trade Coleman and move Farabee to the 3rd line so we can leave a spot for a player. Suniev needs to get some games in this year. Honzek has struggled since he got hurt, but he made the team this year and might do it again next year. Kerins played well enough in the 5 games he got and didn't deserve to get demoted. What is the point of having these players if they never get a crack?

Need to leave spots for these players to have a chance to succeed.
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Old 04-04-2025, 01:22 PM   #13358
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If you dont think Klapka can take a major step you dont have eyes. Guy is already dominant at times playing with Rooney and Lomberg.
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Best case would be that the Wild fall out of the playoffs or close because Rossi is a non factor. Then a trade around Andersson for Rossi this summer.
Have a peak at the other team? They don't need Rasmus.

Spurgeon, Faber, Brodin, Middelton, Chisholm, Buium, Jiricek, Lambos???

You are suggesting we trade Rasmus to a team that might have the best d core in the league?

Guy like Faber is already playing 25 a night too. Add Buium next year? They need to trade a dman.
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Old 04-04-2025, 01:29 PM   #13360
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SHarks, Ducks and UHC all should take bigger steps next year. Blackhawks remain to be seen.

Preds might have a bounce back and fight for a wildcard. Kraken seem to be a year to year team.

Good chance the Flames are much worse next season. And yes signing 30 year old free agents is a mistake, we already have Huberdeau and Kadri and potentially ANdersson.
All those teams you mentioned that you expect to take bigger steps have not tanked long enough to take a step to mediocrity. The ducks looked horrific last night. They are most likely (with the possible exception of Utah) looking at another 4-5 years of Buffalo Sabres like results.
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