2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I could see Vancouver making a play for Marner now with Miller gone and Boeser possibly as well.

Is there any truth to the rumour that Marner doesn't want to play in Canada again, if not for the Leafs? It was stated by a few people, but I wasn't sure if it was actually a well sourced rumour.

Darren Dregger.

If Marner leaves Toronto it will be for an American team. A lot of contenders have cap space. 3 California teams have cap space.

[Toonage]

Can't see the NYI moving a blue chip center prospect they just got in order to get rid of a tiny contract that has 3 more years on their books, a third of which I think could be buried in the AHL. (pretty sure he has a NTC not a NMC). Let alone take on 5 years of $5M Sharangovich.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Darren Dregger.

If Marner leaves Toronto it will be for an American team. A lot of contenders have cap space. 3 California teams have cap space.

I could see Marner going to ANA or SJ. Lots of cap space and will be on the upswing while he’s still a front-line player. No media pressure is a bonus.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I could see Marner going to ANA or SJ. Lots of cap space and will be on the upswing while he’s still a front-line player. No media pressure is a bonus.

That is what I was thinking as well. Anaheim is showing well lately as well, both teams have a young #1C as well.

[traptor]

I feel like Carolina will be gunning hard for Marner. Seems like they were interested in him for a Rantanen deal.

They have the cap space, the need, they're a contender and he fits their age range.

Wouldn't be a bad sequence.

Loaded with 1sts and stankoven, pick up Marner as a UFA and they have Nikishin coming in.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by traptor

I feel like Carolina will be gunning hard for Marner. Seems like they were interested in him for a Rantanen deal.

They have the cap space, the need, they're a contender and he fits their age range.

Wouldn't be a bad sequence.

Loaded with 1sts and stankoven, pick up Marner as a UFA and they have Nikishin coming in.

Marner would be a much better fit there then Rantanen

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by blankall

The Flames are actually pretty close to the cap floor at this point. The cap is expected to rise about $10 million/year in 26-27 and 2027/28. They'll give Zary, Bahl, Frost, and Coronato raises this off season, but Mantha at $3.5 is coming off the books.

They can't really move all the vets without paying for other vets, especially if Andersson is being moved. I guess they could take on bad contracts? I don't really see the owners doing that. They are hesitant to retain cap, let alone pay millions for players they know will be bad.

Wolf should take all of that $10mil cap increase if not more, in theory.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I don't mind the Flames hunting for elite players and paying a price, but the 100% have to be a 1st line C.

Marner does not fit the bill.

I don't agree with this. If we were a somewhat attractive destination, then yes. But we're not and this organization is not going to properly rebuild. So if you can get Mitch Marner here for $14-$16 AAV you just do it. Cause there's not much alterative to acquiring high end talent.

Then you hope that Wolf is the real deal (sure seems like it) along with Parekh (trending that way but who knows until he plays NHL) and suddenly you have Marner, Wolf and Parekh and understand that you didn't fail hard enough to draft a top line center and do your best. it's our best shot at contending with this organization, imo.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

3x$3.5 terminating at age 32 doesn't seem horrible to me. He's had a crappy year. He's 20 goals most years. 30 in a good year.

I'd happily take that player and contract if it was being tossed away.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Can't see the NYI moving a blue chip center prospect they just got in order to get rid of a tiny contract that has 3 more years on their books, a third of which I think could be buried in the AHL. (pretty sure he has a NTC not a NMC). Let alone take on 5 years of $5M Sharangovich.

No, that wouldn't happen, just CP stuff where trade ideas morph legs into crazy Flames centric trade proposals, haha. They probably wouldn't even do Sharangovich straight up for Duclair.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I don't agree with this. If we were a somewhat attractive destination, then yes. But we're not and this organization is not going to properly rebuild. So if you can get Mitch Marner here for $14-$16 AAV you just do it. Cause there's not much alterative to acquiring high end talent.

Then you hope that Wolf is the real deal (sure seems like it) along with Parekh (trending that way but who knows until he plays NHL) and suddenly you have Marner, Wolf and Parekh and understand that you didn't fail hard enough to draft a top line center and do your best. it's our best shot at contending with this organization, imo.

Nah. Marner doesn't fit the bill or the timing where the Flames would want to go after a UFA. We need a natural C, not a winger.

Also, if the team is hoping to trade out Andersson and try to sink for a high draft pick next season then this summer is again the wrong timing to bring in a high profile UFA that will team up with Kadri and Huberdeau to prevent the tank.

If the team successfully tanks then see how many vets want off of the ride and look to the 2026 UFA class. Perhaps Eichel walks to UFA and you can throw that Marner money at him instead.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Wolven

Nah. Marner doesn't fit the bill or the timing where the Flames would want to go after a UFA. We need a natural C, not a winger.

Also, if the team is hoping to trade out Andersson and try to sink for a high draft pick next season then this summer is again the wrong timing to bring in a high profile UFA that will team up with Kadri and Huberdeau to prevent the tank.

If the team successfully tanks then see how many vets want off of the ride and look to the 2026 UFA class. Perhaps Eichel walks to UFA and you can throw that Marner money at him instead.

He will be 30 when he hits UFA, not thank you lol.

Hopefully we have 2 top 5 picks at the point in the system.

[boogerz]

Duclair's reasonable 3x$3.5M contract is such a strange hill for Roy and the Isles to die on.

He's always been a streaky scorer and not very good defensively. If he wasn't, he'd be earning a lot more than $3.5M/year

[Enoch Root]

paying Marner $14-$16M, even though he isn't the center that we need, is insanity

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by boogerz

Duclair's reasonable 3x$3.5M contract is such a strange hill for Roy and the Isles to die on.

He's always been a streaky scorer and not very good defensively. If he wasn't, he'd be earning a lot more than $3.5M/year

Lous time in the NHL was over 10 years ago.

[Yeah_Baby]

The NHL's first octogenarian running a team

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

paying Marner $14-$16M, even though he isn't the center that we need, is insanity

The only way it makes sense for me is if the Flames can trade for another young centre. Say you sign Marner, but also find a way to maybe trade for a bit of a reclamation project in someone like Zegras. Maybe for our Florida 1st?

Huberdeau-Kadri-Marner
Zary-Zegras-Coronato
Farabee-Frost-Sharangovich
Coleman-Backlund-Klapka
Lomberg

Hanley-Weegar
Pachal/Bean-Andersson
Bahl-Parekh

Wolf

With continued progression for Zary and Coronato, along with maybe a change of scenery providing Zegras a bounce back, those forward lines are full of depth and perhaps slot Backlund into a better spot to focus on defense since his offensive game seems to have fallen off a cliff. Flames draft a centre this year and work to fill up the centre depth with our 1st this year and 2 1sts next year to prepare for Backlund eventually retiring.

Parekh adds a new offensive aspect to the backend and hopefully improves the PP along with Marner being a speedster who I think would mesh well with Kadri and Huberdeau. Then we have D prospects like Mews, Bruz, Poirier, Morin and Poirier ready to jump in and fill spots taken by Hanley/Bean/Pachal at some point. Pachal seems like a perfect 6/7 D but Bean and Hanley are good stop gaps for the time being.

Then Wolf in net. I like the look of that lineup.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I could see Marner going to ANA or SJ. Lots of cap space and will be on the upswing while he’s still a front-line player. No media pressure is a bonus.

Players are shortsighted. They don't want to go to a team that will be good in 5 years. They want a team that's good now.

That's only on the success aspect though. IMO money, taxes and location still outweigh that factor.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Wolf should take all of that $10mil cap increase if not more, in theory.

Wolf is being re-signed in 2026/2027. The cap is going up to $95.5 this year, from the current $88, to $104 million in 2026/27 and then to $113.5 million the year after.

The current cap hit is just over $70 million, and that's with Mantha and Markstrom's retention on the books.

The Flames will have a lot of cap to play with.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He will be 30 when he hits UFA, not thank you lol.

Hopefully we have 2 top 5 picks at the point in the system.

So? Players don't die at 30. Most elite players can keep playing at a high level into their late 30s lol. Either way, trying to sign a #1C in 2026 makes more sense than trying to sign a #1RW in 2025.

It would be great if we have 2 top-5 picks in the system by July 2026 but I don't see how that happens. The only way I think we get 1 such pick is if the bottom feeders in the West all take a step toward contention mode or at least playoff bubble (Ducks, Sharks, Blackhawks, Preds, Kraken, UHC). With them moving up it would help drop the Flames down.