2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

This is interesting. They have:
Fantilli (untouchable)
Johnson (who is playing on the wing)
Sillinger (who is playing on the wing)
Lindstrom (prospect)
2025 pick (likely to be a top C)

If we could pry Johnson out of there it would be great.

Anderson is close with Monahan and with Meredith Gaudreau, he may be open to sign there.

Anderson + prospect (Honzek, Stromgren, Basha, etc) for Johnson??

While Anderson may be open to signing there, are they open to signing him?

Anderson would make for a very poor long term bet, as he's been trending down all season.

Now, he may be injured, or maybe he's simply playing too many tough minutes ala Seth Jones. Perhaps him playing 20 minutes a night on the 3-4 dmen line would boost his playing? Although that would be a big gamble.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

The Flames are seriously deficient in top end skill. I hope they take a run at Marner as UFA.

27 yrs old would be 34/35 at the end of the contract.

would have a #1 C locked in for key years.

Marner
Kadri
Frost

Decent Centre depth for the next 3-4 years while we draft and build our Centre prospects.

Regardless of his position, not sure why Marner would pick a team with a serious deficiency of top end talent. Especially one that is likely trending down as its best players (other than Wolf) are older players.

Although Wolf is a wild card in all of these types of discussions.

[Ashes]

On BarnBurner a few weeks back I can't remember if it was Dreger or Noodles but one of them said how it's well known in Toronto that Marner was always a Winger growing up and had more success there, but Marner's Dad basically demanded to his Junior coach and to whoever lists prospects for the NHL that he be listed as a C/RW to pump his value.

I have no idea if Marner is well suited to play Center, just thought that was an interesting tidbit from a few weeks ago.

Would be nice to add some top line skill regardless of position at this point, but of course finding a Center is the absolute biggest priority and question mark for this team going forward.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Tbf he was never going to get a chance at Centre with the Leafs. I've often thought Marner has all the tools to be effective up the middle, and he did play C in junior iirc

Every time the Leafs talk about trying him at center, like when Matthews or Tavares has been out, they never do.

[Toonage]

Always feels like when I hear "they played a little center at (name your level)" it translates to "they aren't good at center".

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Always feels like when I hear "they played a little center at (name your level)" it translates to "they aren't good at center".

Reminds of when we got Tanguay, Sutter said he played center in juniour and we would try him at C. A guy who has played LW his whole career.

Marner is even dumber to think he can play center since he hardly played the position even in juniour.

It's a moot point anyways, the list of suitors for him we are going to be at the bottom of the list just like with other top free agents.

[TheIronMaiden]

I don't mind the Flames hunting for elite players and paying a price, but the 100% have to be a 1st line C.

Marner does not fit the bill.

[YyjFlames]

Columbus would be a good landing spot for Marner, and he could get a huge contract to play there.

The way they've played the last few months, and how their defensive core has really emerged, they look like they're a top line winger or two away from being a potential contender. RIP Johnny, as he's very much what they need.

[Bonded]

A player will play center if they are able to. Both the team and player want a good center over a good winger.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

Coleman is the type of player that is often considered the final piece for a playoff contender, so I very much agree. The obvious snag is that prices could be soft like they were last year, either because of more sellers or the perceived strength of the 2026 draft.

Chris Tanev in my mind should have returned a first rounder all day long from a playoff team for the same reason, but it didn't happen, so you never know.

I mean let's be honest we all know what will happen with that wonderful Flames luck on timing.



Flames need to dump salary (Monahan) = the peak of high prices to dump salary

Flames have cap space and can now weaponize it for the first time in the salary cap era = Oh, sorry Flames cap is projected to rise substantially, no one pays high for retention anymore

Flames ready for major sell off of pending UFA's, let get some ransoms! = Oh sorry Flames, buyers market this year

Flames overachieving and hesitant to trade away Andersson and have no quality pending UFA's = Oh sorry Flames, sellers market this year, bet you wished this happened last year!

So following this trend, we will have Coleman and Andersson as big chips to trade next deadline, anyone wanna guess want kind of market it will be?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Pretty sure they could have received a 1st for Tanev but had to eat salary the other way and they really like Grushnikov and felt like he was as a good as a 1st round pick.

He has played 3 years in the minors now, so it's time to see what he looks like at the NHL level.

[TheIronMaiden]

Just day dreaming but is there any world where the Flames can package both of their first to grab Misa?

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Pretty sure they could have received a 1st for Tanev but had to eat salary the other way and they really like Grushnikov and felt like he was as a good as a 1st round pick.

He has played 3 years in the minors now, so it's time to see what he looks like at the NHL level.

This is his second full season in the AHL, it takes time to develop. You count one game after his junior career was over as playing a year in the AHL?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Just day dreaming but is there any world where the Flames can package both of their first to grab Misa?

I don't think so. Misa should be 1 OA. The fact he may go as low as 4 is wild to me. This draft is not deep enough in my opinion to boost the value of the two mid first round picks the Flames likely end up with.

Flames would need to lose out the remaining schedule, get their own pick into the top 10 and maybe scratch out enough value with their assets to move up. And I don't think that even covers the spread .

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jiggy

This is his second full season in the AHL, it takes time to develop. You count one game after his junior career was over as playing a year in the AHL?

Fine 2 years, but still not saying give him a full season but give him a call up to see what he looks like now that the season is winding down along with a few other guys.

It will be these guys who push the Hanley's, Miromanov's, Rooneys out of the lineup in the next few seasons.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Just day dreaming but is there any world where the Flames can package both of their first to grab Misa?

No.

Their two picks would be lucky to get anywhere close to top 10.

Getting top 2?

They could package their two picks and Perekh and not get Missa probably, although that could be debatable. It would depend on who was in a position to draft Misa. Let's assume Chicago and SJ gets Schafer, the Hawks aren't trading Misa.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by Jiggy

This is his second full season in the AHL, it takes time to develop. You count one game after his junior career was over as playing a year in the AHL?

He's also a defensive defender (similar to Kuznetsov) which means they tends to break into the league later on.

Both will be NHLers, just a matter of time.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Just day dreaming but is there any world where the Flames can package both of their first to grab Misa?

I think the only way that happens is if they win the lottery and move up to 5/6.
Then theres a chance assuming whoever is 1 wants Schaefer

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

No.

Their two picks would be lucky to get anywhere close to top 10.

Getting top 2?

They could package their two picks and Perekh and not get Missa probably, although that could be debatable. It would depend on who was in a position to draft Misa. Let's assume Chicago and SJ gets Schafer, the Hawks aren't trading Misa.

I could see the Hawks dropping back a couple picks to take Martone. He'd be a pretty perfect compliment to Bedard's game, and if they can leverage an asset out of another team, and someone would certainly pay to guarantee picking their centre, it could make sense for them.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Just day dreaming but is there any world where the Flames can package both of their first to grab Misa?

I think the only thing the Flames could use to entice Chicago to trade their pick would be Dustin Wolf. The Hawks are really eager to enter the next phase of their rebuild and may want a young star goalie, something that is a bit of a weakness for them at the moment, more than they want another 18 year old prospect.

That's obviously not on the table as while it might fill one hole for the Flames (getting that elusive future #1 center), you gamble leaving a hole in net for who knows how long.

But I mean, if people really want to tank for a chance at McKenna and Dupont in 2026 and 2027, it what would have to happen because the team is not tanking with Wolf. Then we can use thoughts and prayers to hope Sergeev or Zarubin pan out into decent NHLers.

I am not advocating for anything, but it's fun to think about from a fantasy GM perspective.