Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Johnny Makarov]

Danielle Smith... hold my beer. Go listen to this mindless crap she is spewing the legislature right now. Nenshi, go end her!

haha She is one angry bitch right now.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Pierre was pretty bullish on the BTC a few years ago before the price crash:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poi...udit-1.6433860
https://www.reuters.com/world/americ...cy-2022-04-28/

Gross just another Trump in the wall

[Johnny Makarov]

Holy crapcakes. Danielle Smith just giftwrapped a Lib majority gov't with this speech. You could run 50 attack ads with the garbage she just spewed out.

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

What does security clearance have to do with disclosure of assets?

What does security clearance have to do with....running a country? Just asking questions

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

His assets are disclosed, following the letter of the law.

Again, you clearly know F all about crypto.

One of the selling points of crypto is that you're able to hide your assets in digital wallets (as many of them as you like). For stuff like BTC, you can trace the transactions if someone is willing to do enough digging. If he's holding onto any Monero, then it's almost untraceable.

[WideReceiver]

If Poilievre wins, I think Canada will become a U.S. territory. Maybe just Alberta, or the entire country within five to 10 years. Both terrify me. Maybe in four weeks I should commence my plan to move.

(I do think Carney wins, but then the separation/American-state movement picks up steam.)

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

If Poilievre wins, I think Canada will become a U.S. territory. Maybe just Alberta, or the entire country within five to 10 years. Both terrify me. Maybe in four weeks I should commence my plan to move.

(I do think Carney wins, but then the separation/American-state movement picks up steam.)

I don’t think the leader matters if Canada becomes a territory it will all be American aggression. The American state movement is not popular at all and basically stays in the realm of the alt-right

[Kipperriffic]

The Q&A after Carney's Windson speech were such a missed opportunity to ask about the auto sector. Instead they wasted time on stupid nonsense about his assets.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Again, you clearly know F all about crypto.

One of the selling points of crypto is that you're able to hide your assets in digital wallets (as many of them as you like). For stuff like BTC, you can trace the transactions if someone is willing to do enough digging. If he's holding onto any Monero, then it's almost untraceable.

Just out of curiosity, if you had to guess how many MPs have digital wallets and crypto assets? How concerned should we be about this type of thing in the House of Commons or even at the provincial or municipal levels?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Axe the tax seems to have been the correct move which the conservatives having been calling for over many years. They opposed the annual increases and they wanted the carbon tax gone. The Liberals have finally taken that advice and adolished the carbon tax and even environmental activists like Guilbeault are on board with that decision. Also, BC NDP followed up with their own plan to axe the tax.

No one has actually agreed it’s the right idea. Carney (and somehow no one has noticed this) says the consumer carbon tax is not politically viable and needed to be hidden.

No one is saying Carbon Taxes are the wrong way to fight climate change.

But if you want a right wing policy that is better than the center and left wing policies the Carbon Tax is an excellent example of one. Instead of subsidizing a green transition you let the market take care of it with predictable increases to the cost until it matches the external cost to society. This worked already to save the Ozone layer.

So this is kind of a funny post. You are trying to find a right wing policy which is better than a left wing policy and choose to attack the right wing policy and use that attack as an example of the right being right.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Just out of curiosity, if you had to guess how many MPs have digital wallets and crypto assets? How concerned should we be about this type of thing in the House of Commons or even at the provincial or municipal levels?

I'm less concerned about the representatives that aren't pushing the pro-crypto policies that PP is, while supposedly having large crypto holdings.

A blind trust seems like much less of a conflict of interest, no? And I still think Carney should probably disclose them. I just think it's pretty rich coming from PP.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I'm less concerned about the representatives that aren't pushing the pro-crypto policies that PP is, while supposedly having large crypto holdings.

A blind trust seems like much less of a conflict of interest, no? And I still think Carney should probably disclose them. I just think it's pretty rich coming from PP.

Large crypto holdings in terms of ETFs or actual currency? I don't believe that Pierre has ever disclosed that he actually has crypto assets aside from investing in an ETF. Some other MPs have actually disclosed Bitcoin or ethereum or other crypto assets.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Holy crapcakes. Danielle Smith just giftwrapped a Lib majority gov't with this speech. You could run 50 attack ads with the garbage she just spewed out.

What did she say?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Large crypto holdings in terms of ETFs or actual currency? I don't believe that Pierre has ever disclosed that he actually has crypto assets aside from investing in an ETF. Some other MPs have actually disclosed Bitcoin or ethereum or other crypto assets.

I don't think MPs should be able to hold any coins that can't be easily traced back to their original source. Just seems like a very easy loophole to exploit in terms of bribery, foreign interference, etc.

I also don't think PP having crypto holdings is a big deal. Most diversified portfolios have them these days. I'm more just speaking to the conflict of interest optics. Carney's is no worse than PP's, IMO.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

What did she say?

She's just gaslighting saying it was Trudeau's idea to go to US media and talk about how bad of an idea tariffs are and how now Carney says it's treason.

Deflect deflect deflect. She's a stubborn one. I could only listen to her for 1min before getting a headache.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by GGG

No one has actually agreed it’s the right idea. Carney (and somehow no one has noticed this) says the consumer carbon tax is not politically viable and needed to be hidden.

No one is saying Carbon Taxes are the wrong way to fight climate change.

But if you want a right wing policy that is better than the center and left wing policies the Carbon Tax is an excellent example of one. Instead of subsidizing a green transition you let the market take care of it with predictable increases to the cost until it matches the external cost to society. This worked already to save the Ozone layer.

So this is kind of a funny post. You are trying to find a right wing policy which is better than a left wing policy and choose to attack the right wing policy and use that attack as an example of the right being right.

I find it amusing (alarming?) how many right wing policies get pushed to the point that the left accepts them, and then a few years later they get attacked for it.

Globalism is another one. I remember in the 90s that the left was very much against globalism and warned of the job drain it would create and the exploitation of third world workers. Sweatshops for the clothing industry was the target of the decade. Enough push and the right wingers get their way, pushing the global trade agenda, key note speaking at the WEF.

Fast forward 20 years and suddenly being a globalist is a leftist elitist ideal. The WEF is a puppet master for communism. Just like the carbon tax is suddenly a leftist ideal when it was a right wing construct that we accepted as being the least worst option.

Now the right wing, who has been the bread and butter of the financial elite and corporate masters, suddenly is a populist raging against the "elite left"? Nurses and teachers are elitist, but billionaires are just trying to do their best to support their workers. Like its totally bonkers how the messaging gets changed.

[WideReceiver]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I don’t think the leader matters if Canada becomes a territory it will all be American aggression. The American state movement is not popular at all and basically stays in the realm of the alt-right

It matters when one guy will walk Canada over and the other will mobilize the country and fight it.

[WideReceiver]

Originally Posted by Looch City

She's just gaslighting saying it was Trudeau's idea to go to US media and talk about how bad of an idea tariffs are and how now Carney says it's treason.

Deflect deflect deflect. She's a stubborn one. I could only listen to her for 1min before getting a headache.

It’s a far bigger deal that twice now she travels to Florida at our expense to take part in a conference with people who want to annex our country or take over Alberta.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Looch City

She's just gaslighting saying it was Trudeau's idea to go to US media and talk about how bad of an idea tariffs are and how now Carney says it's treason.

Deflect deflect deflect. She's a stubborn one. I could only listen to her for 1min before getting a headache.

She’s such a f’n clown. Doug Ford went down to the U.S. a lot recently and spoke with their media as well, but you didn’t see him cozying up to MAGA deplorables like Breitbart and speaking at far-right conferences with Ben f***ing Shapiro. If she wants to go down there and seriously defend Canada’s position (as in ALL of Canada) in regards to the tariffs, I’d be all for it. But what she’s doing is the opposite of helping and it makes her look like a treasonous a**hole.

[madmike]

The auto tariffs Trump is announcing basically end any chance the Cons have in Ontario. Which means PP is likely done.