Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

NDP's best bet is probably to admit defeat now. Still do what they can, but they are always short on cash so shouldn't spend much this cycle. It's just going to be wasted. They need to consolidate around what they can keep and not worry about the rest.

It seems like they, nor the liberals, nor the green party are running candidates in my riding. Unless some names are waiting to be announced.

I have the choice between the CPC, PPC and a Christofacist independent.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

It seems like they, nor the liberals, nor the green party are running candidates in my riding. Unless some names are waiting to be announced.

I have the choice between the CPC, PPC and a Christofacist independent.

The nomination deadline is two weeks from today, April 7 at 2pm.

[TheIronMaiden]

Thank God. Otherwise, I would have to spoil my Ballet voting for Craig Conroy.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Seeing quite a few NDP signs pop up this morning in my neighbourhood; Vancouver Kingsway.
Don Davies has won here wince 2008 so it's likely one of the NDP's strongest ridings.
I don't think the Liberals have even announced who's running yet.

A real estate colleague of mine has announced he's running for the Liberals in Vancouver East. A really nice guy that everyone in the industry likes and respects.
I hope he does well.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Muta

[Luke LeBrun] Two Conservative insiders told @stephenmaher.bsky.social that Poilievre’s team discussed using Conservative candidate Jamil Jivani to send back channel messages to JD Vance requesting Donald Trump “distance himself from Poilievre”

https://bsky.app/profile/lukelebrun..../3ll37c6ttz22c

Gross if true. Foreign interference in our election should not be tolerated, even if it comes from our neighbors south of us. No wonder Milhouse doesn't want to get his security clearance.

Why use a back channel when Danielle Smith literally said it in a public interview?

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by cral12

via https://bsky.app/profile/mcuban.bsky.../3ll2wtrxp6k2i

We already know he's using X as a platform for more extreme RW influences to get their views out there and spread their version of the truth. I'm thinking does he himself post stuff specific to the Canadian election. I'd think by now that most have figured out that X is an echo chamber for extreme right views. But maybe it still catches a few strays.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Why use a back channel when Danielle Smith literally said it in a public interview?

Jivani was Vance's college roommate.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Jivani was Vance's college roommate.

I'm aware of that. My point is, why use a back channel? Danielle Smith just openly did it. They don't need a back channel. They can openly ask for it and nothing will change.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I'm aware of that. My point is, why use a back channel? Danielle Smith just openly did it. They don't need a back channel. They can openly ask for it and nothing will change.

I suspect UCP did this before Danielle opened her yap and admitted to election interference.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Jivani was Vance's college roommate.

Imagine you used to sit on that same couch!

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Firebot

On the bolded...that's such a stupid way of looking at it. That's not how tax brackets work. Percentage wise someone making 500K will see a very negligible benefit to the lowest bracket percentage being changed as that person pays most income at a much higher tax bracket. The impact of lowering the percentage of the lowest bracket has a much more significant impact to someone making 57K or less. That's the whole reason why lower tax brackets are lower percentages and why we have a base 15,705$ with 0% before you have to pay tax (that everyone enjoys, mind blown).

That's the problem though. That negligible benefit for higher earners still means losing a lot of tax revenue. If we were running surpluses or these were targeted tax cuts that would generate economic growth, then sure. But we'd be using billions of borrowed dollars every year to give higher earners some extra pocket change.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

It seems like they, nor the liberals, nor the green party are running candidates in my riding. Unless some names are waiting to be announced.

I have the choice between the CPC, PPC and a Christofacist independent.

You know what you have to do. Give that poor soul some encouragement!

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

NDP seems to be at a crossroads. The Liberals are moving closer to the center, yet the NDP don’t seem to be able to pick up any votes from the more left leaning Liberals. The NDP seems to be losing votes to the Liberals as they move further right.

Are voters generally moving further right?

Is there any danger of the NDP losing official party status?

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Wild that if the voters are the same as last election cycles, as far as left / right, that the NDP are losing even more ground as the Liberals shift right.

I guess all the virtue signalling about how pipelines are bad for Canada and the environment isn’t a good message anymore?

NDP voters are bleeding into Liberals this election. It has nothing to do with their values shifting or the party's "virtue signaling"

It's entirely based on a ABC approach to this election. A vote for the NDP is a potential vote for Poilievre.

Do you think there are some left-wing US voters who didnt vote because the Dems are too right wing or pro-israel or some crap, now wishing they would have voted?

Many NDP voters are in this camp.

PP and the current CPC is close to be abhorrent to a large minority of voters

[Incogneto]

Originally Posted by Cappy

NDP voters are bleeding into Liberals this election. It has nothing to do with their values shifting or the party's "virtue signaling"

It's entirely based on a ABC approach to this election. A vote for the NDP is a potential vote for Poilievre.

Do you think there are some left-wing US voters who didnt vote because the Dems are too right wing or pro-israel or some crap, now wishing they would have voted?

Many NDP voters are in this camp.

PP and the current CPC is close to be abhorrent to a large minority of voters

It's a race to the center of the spectrum, and the Liberals are winning.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Incogneto

It's a race to the center of the spectrum, and the Liberals are winning.

The CPC isn't even trying to move to the political centre. Over the past few years with PP as leader, they have cozied up to far-right extremists like convoy lunatics and anti-vaxxers while simultaneously embracing Trump-like sloganeering and campaign tactics. It was only after Trump inadvertently united practically all of Canada in a wave of patriotism that the CPC realized that maybe spending the last few years screaming about how Canada is fundamentally broken as a country and that we should be more like the USA wasn't the winning election strategy they hoped it was.

I hope these clowns experience one of the biggest, most lop-sided election losses in Canadian history, snatching defeat from the jaws of certain victory just two months ago. Optimistically, I'd like to think this would be a wake-up call to the CPC leadership and their grassroots members to become a more viable and moderate alternative to the Liberal Party, but because they're all a bunch of True Believers(tm), their takeaway from such a defeat would be that they need to go even more hard right next time.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

The CPC isn't even trying to move to the political centre. Over the past few years with PP as leader, they have cozied up to far-right extremists like convoy lunatics and anti-vaxxers while simultaneously embracing Trump-like sloganeering and campaign tactics. It was only after Trump inadvertently united practically all of Canada in a wave of patriotism that the CPC realized that maybe spending the last few years screaming about how Canada is fundamentally broken as a country and that we should be more like the USA wasn't the winning election strategy they hoped it was.

I hope these clowns experience one of the biggest, most lop-sided election losses in Canadian history, snatching defeat from the jaws of certain victory just two months ago. Optimistically, I'd like to think this would be a wake-up call to the CPC leadership and their grassroots members to become a more viable and moderate alternative to the Liberal Party, but because they're all a bunch of True Believers(tm), their takeaway from such a defeat would be that they need to go even more hard right next time.

I can’t remember seeing this messaging. Can you provide a citation please?

[WideReceiver]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

^ I just spend 30 minutes reading through the few hundred comments on r/CanadaPolitics about Pierre's tax cut and it is an assuming read. Everyone is alarmed at Pierre's tax cut and are questioning how he will pay for it and what public programs he will cut. Almost no one has any concern about Carney's very similar tax cut.

Hint: he has no idea how he’ll pay for it. Maybe he do a Musk-style slash and burn, aka maple DOGE.

[Incogneto]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

The CPC isn't even trying to move to the political centre. Over the past few years with PP as leader, they have cozied up to far-right extremists like convoy lunatics and anti-vaxxers while simultaneously embracing Trump-like sloganeering and campaign tactics. It was only after Trump inadvertently united practically all of Canada in a wave of patriotism that the CPC realized that maybe spending the last few years screaming about how Canada is fundamentally broken as a country and that we should be more like the USA wasn't the winning election strategy they hoped it was.

I hope these clowns experience one of the biggest, most lop-sided election losses in Canadian history, snatching defeat from the jaws of certain victory just two months ago. Optimistically, I'd like to think this would be a wake-up call to the CPC leadership and their grassroots members to become a more viable and moderate alternative to the Liberal Party, but because they're all a bunch of True Believers(tm), their takeaway from such a defeat would be that they need to go even more hard right next time.

Yeah, I don't necessarily agree with your perspective here, but its all semantics at this point.

Regardless, Carney has done a kicks ass job at repositioning his party, and 'refreshed' it in a 2-weeks span. The CPC had 3+ years to do the same, and barely were able to make a dint. Bad job by them.

[WideReceiver]

The campaign has just started and I’m already tired of it and angry.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by surferguy

I’ll give you two guesses who will be an obstructionist to making this happen quicker.

Give me plastic straws!!!!!! - Danielle Smith

Out of spite I can see Smith creating an issue.

But Alberta would benefit from the barriers being knocked down.