Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Torture]

The best part is how PP immediately posts it to his Twitter, lol.

IMO he would have been better off NOT posting it and letting others do the heavy lifting for him - posting the Trump clip just plays into the Liberal's narrative that he's Trump-mini.

[WideReceiver]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

lol you think Orange Rapist is smart enough to think that? hahahahah

He saw the clip where PP was trying to distance himself from Maga... Nice try with that one lol

I do think that’s intentional by Trump. He’s stupid but I’m sure someone has suggested it.

[MrButtons]

This may have sounded better (I didnt actually listen) but written out it makes me laugh to read. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poi...unts-1.7487589

"What Canadians need is a leader who's tough, firm and stands by his convictions, a leader who will make us strong, self-reliant and able to stand on its own two feet, a leader who will put Canada first," Poilievre said.

"I'm a strong leader, I'm a tough guy to deal with," Poilievre said, while noting Carney was chairman of the board of Brookfield Asset Management when it moved its head office to New York.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by MrButtons

This may have sounded better (I didnt actually listen) but written out it makes me laugh to read. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poi...unts-1.7487589

No, it sounded as ridiculous as it reads.

[surferguy]

I think it would be super funny if the Liberals did an attack ad on PP in the vein of the "Justin, he is just not ready" theme.

But play it as vilifying Pierre Trudeau and then saying something like Canada is not ready for another Pierre.

It would have been even better if it was Justin running.

[Mathgod]

Liberal majority now projected! https://338canada.com/#Canadafed

[dammage79]

Sounds like the Fighter jet file is going to get discuss pretty heavily. The decision made CBC News today and the options they have to weigh are do they keep the 16 f35s they've already paid for and go with a 2 fleet AF? Doubt they want that. Do they buckle up and pray that Trump's way of governing is only going to last the 4 years and they follow through with all 88 f-35s? Or do they pay the cancellation fee and just back right the heck out of all 88 f-35 s and go after a European ounterpart. And it sounds like most believe if they do move off of f-35 it will be for the Gripen-E and it's open source blueprints that Saab is offering up.

Personally, I'd try to jump on some Rafales and negotiate a front of the line option for the NGF .

But I'd prefer they went with Gripen. It's easy to maintain, they get a fighter taylor specifically for northern sovereignty and has the fastest sortie speeds of any of the available options.

Plus I love love love delta wing fighters. They rustle my jimmies.

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by Torture

The best part is how PP immediately posts it to his Twitter, lol.

IMO he would have been better off NOT posting it and letting others do the heavy lifting for him - posting the Trump clip just plays into the Liberal's narrative that he's Trump-mini.

They're both playing 1d chess?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Liberal majority now projected! https://338canada.com/#Canadafed

For some reason the latest 338 updates doesn't include the latest EKOS poll, which has the Liberals ahead by double-digits.

I don't know if the CPC's internal polling is showing them ahead, but it's wild that they haven't changed their campaign strategy.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Liberal majority now projected! https://338canada.com/#Canadafed

Still dont trust polls much but the NDP at 7 seats is hilarious! Change the damn name Nenshi!

[belsarius]

Further to my post about Carney, I wanted to share a few quotes from his 4th Reith lecture in 2020. (I was just relistening and founds these poignant).

It’s important to recognise that a whole economy transition isn’t only about funding deep green activities, or blacklisting dark brown ones. We need fifty shades of green to catalyse and support all companies moving towards net zero. To conserve our carbon budget, companies will seek to meet their net zero targets through an appropriate mix of emission reductions and credible carbon offsets, including nature-based solutions, such as re-forestation and the switch from brown to green power.

Ultimately, the private sector needs effective public policies. These include tax and spending measures, such as carbon prices and targeted investments in emerging sectors, and it also means new rules, including mandates for clean fuels and greater energy efficiency. A critical point is that the more credible and predictable climate policies are, the more the financial system will anticipate future measures, and encourage companies to start adjusting today.

We can’t achieve environmental sustainability if we sacrifice our economy and with it, peoples’ livelihoods. Similarly, we won’t devise all the necessary solutions or implement them with sufficient speed without market forces.

This might chase some of his centre-right support away, as he shows that he is very much on board with carbon taxation and sees it as a necessary way forward.

But it also shows how he isn't limited to black or white (or green). I loved the fifty-shades of green comment because it illustrates that we can't just blacklist or shame companies or people for their carbon footprint but instead need to find a way sustainably to change their shades.

And finally the recognition that we can't sacrifice the economy to do it.



It was 4 lectures about 30 mins each with an additional 30 minutes of question period on each. Worth a listen to if you really want an insight into Carney's view of the world (at least 4 years ago).

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Still dont trust polls much but the NDP at 7 seats is hilarious! Change the damn name Nenshi!

The name isn't the issue. Alberta voters are.

That said, I think the NDP's goal is to try to maintain official party status, turf Singh, and hopefully get a better leader in place. The big problem for them is that most of their MPs are from Western Canada and may have name-recognition issues in Eastern Canada.

[Fuzz]

With the Liberals moving right, it does open up a bit more breathing space on the left for the NDP to maybe move a little more back to centre. I don't see much hope for them if they swing further left.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

With the Liberals moving right, it does open up a bit more breathing space on the left for the NDP to maybe move a little more back to centre. I don't see much hope for them if they swing further left.

Move back to the centre? When was the NDP in the center and when did they move left?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

With the Liberals moving right, it does open up a bit more breathing space on the left for the NDP to maybe move a little more back to centre. I don't see much hope for them if they swing further left.

As an NDP supporter, I don't really want them to move to the centre. They need to firmly plant their flag in the left-wing populist/democratic socialism sphere. We don't gain anything as a country by having more centrist parties.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

https://vancouversun.com/news/bc-con...t-mean-for-you

BC also axing its carbon tax.

And it is creating a $1.5B hole on the BC budget revenue side.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

And it is creating a $1.5B hole on the BC budget revenue side.

Yeah, credit where it's due, the BC Conservatives did a great job of forcing the BC NDP into some really dumb own goals.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

And it is creating a $1.5B hole on the BC budget revenue side.

yes, canceling a source of revenue (Tax) while maintaining existing spending results in deficit. What is the point of saying this?

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

yes, canceling a source of revenue (Tax) while maintaining existing spending results in deficit. What is the point of saying this?

He's still trying to own the Libs... lol

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

yes, canceling a source of revenue (Tax) while maintaining existing spending results in deficit. What is the point of saying this?

It's in the news now. The BC government is now working on ways to shift things around in their budget to potentially cover the new shortfall. This could mean cuts to services or increased taxes or other measures.