American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Good thing we’ve got all those patriotic gun toting truckers. The minute US armed forces step foot on Canadian soil because of this whole fentanyl wmd bs, they’ll be heading down to the border with their guns to defend our sovereignty right? Right?



Haha just kidding. Those treasonous cowards will be cheering it on. Bunch of braindead hillbillies.

I know a lot of them through work and they are full blown Trump supporters through all of this. "Canada ****ed up by not being a serious country and now Trump will take over and make us serious". That's literally what they truly believe in their hearts. It's insane.

[activeStick]

Geeeez. I just heard about this video today that was released by the Dems for... Well, not sure why they did this. So cringe, and so very disappointing.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1898438405257560175

[Drak]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I know a lot of them through work and they are full blown Trump supporters through all of this. "Canada ****ed up by not being a serious country and now Trump will take over and make us serious". That's literally what they truly believe in their hearts. It's insane.

“Canada is not a serious country” is MAGA propaganda. You hear this crap from the likes of Ben Shapiro. They are mindless parrots.

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Where does Canada buy its arms and munitions from?

Gonna guess the States.

Nobody is coming, and Canadians aren’t going to put up much of a fight. Sort of beside the point though because I’m not sure what the states obsession is with Canada or why it even needs to invade when we literally don’t do anything about our sovereignty anyway. If this is such a threat, things would be different. The States can literally get and do whatever they want anyway without the headache of invading.

Its a good thing that Canada isn't filled with a bunch of patsies such as yourself.

[Winsor_Pilates]

If Trump had full reign like Putin, we'd get invaded.
Given the US still has independent media, free"ish" society, and many powerful people not under the leader's thumb, there's too many influences to protect us from full on Trump.
The propaganda machine needed to turn the US into Russia is in full operation, but would need much longer than Trump’s lifespan to get there.

It's important to be aware of what's going on but not get mentally twisted into stressful thoughts of the impending doom.

[Hockeyguy15]

Our best hope of not being invaded is Trump pissing off enough people at home first, and he has too many fires to deal with to bother with us.

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Geeeez. I just heard about this video today that was released by the Dems for... Well, not sure why they did this. So cringe, and so very disappointing.

It would be nice if there was some sort of resistance in American government.

Instead of... whatever the Democrats call what they're doing.

[Muta]

Really hoping right now for an intelligent, progressive and astute Democrat to step up to the forefront and start making regular public appearances before the American public, denouncing the current administration, fact checking them into oblivion, and reinforcing the importance of American values and alliances with historic friends and neighbors. Someone who thrives in the public spotlight and leads with fearlessness, confidence, and a powerful message to unite increasingly those who are not behind Trump, Project 2025, corruption or authoritarianism. A face of the resistance and true American values, so to speak.

AOC, Bernie and Walz are doing their best spreading the right messages right now (Bernie in particular with his tour, and he's in his 80s!), but the Dems need someone new to lead them into the next chapter of that party. Their country may very well depend on it.

Sounds like wishful thinking, I know, but one can hope.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You are wrong. There is a big difference between how countries see Ukraine and Canada. History repeats itself, it always does. You are talking WW3 that ends up with the United States looking like post war WW2 Germany. Trump is stupid enough to think Russia would back him but they would turn on him just destroy the Western super power. China would also use it as an excuse to destroy their main competition in the world market wise. It would be a war the US can't win and I guarantee US intelligence already knows this. Republicans in Congress are fine letting their deranged leader spew whatever he wants but I think you would see his own government impeach him pretty fast and get him out of there before there was ever an invasion of Canada.

If you are the UK, France or Germany and you see Canada getting invaded by the US military, do you:

A) Send battle groups and invasion forces in support and touch off WWIII, thereby ending all of humanity when it eventually comes to nuclear exchange?

B) Leave it alone and sacrifice Canadian lives in order to avoid WWIII?

Pretty easy choice. This is not 1939. This is 2025 where weapons systems can destroy the planet and everything on it.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Drak

“Canada is not a serious country” is MAGA propaganda. You hear this crap from the likes of Ben Shapiro. . Azure

Fixed.

[SutterBrother]

I can't imagine that there actually is a "3rd rail" in American politics anymore. But if there is, this might just be it.

Seniors must now register in person for Social Security

Beginning March 31st, people will no longer be able to verify their identity to the SSA over the phone and those who cannot properly verify their identity over the agency's “my Social Security” online service, will be required to visit an agency field office in person to complete the verification process, agency leadership told reporters Tuesday.

The change will apply to new Social Security applicants and existing recipients who want to change their direct deposit information.

The racist rural elder who loves Trump isn't going to love this.

[Huntingwhale]

I wrote out a big long post about comparables to the buildup of the russia invasion and how it parallels here, before accidentally deleting it and too lazy to write it again. But I will say that we have such a massive reference point staring us in the face waving it's hands warning us what is coming if we don't take action sooner than later. It's not something to brush of as the ramblings of a mad man or trolling. Trump might be a mad man, but he is surrounded by many whose lust for power can make his words reality.

Some positives I take is that by and large, most Canadians, government included, took it seriously the moment those annexation words left Trump's lips. I know from personal experience that the majority of the Ukrainian population (outside of the army) never took the russian threats seriously until the moment tanks started rolling over the border, and that was a massive mistake. So thankfully due to quick reaction, we've bought ourselves some time. Canada might not be strong economically as the US, but no one is. Still, we are not a poor country and have a strong economy relative to much of the world that will help to navigate this.

I too hope that this is simply word diarrhea, am leaning towards that it is, but the fact is that putin's words were also trolling until they weren't. There can be no scenario where our population simply sits back and banks that Trumps "jokes" end up being just that. Showing that we take it seriously showing we are preparing for worst case scenario is in fact a deterrence in itself.

[Fuzz]

With any luck the Deep State actually exists and is working furiously behind the scenes to restore order and democracy to America. I'll just hold out hope for that.

[WideReceiver]

Originally Posted by Ryan Coke

Thousands and thousands of Canadians cross the border every day, and spend time in the states uneventfully. I’ve been back and forth several times myself, completely uneventfully. Some day that might change, but we aren’t there now.

I agree but I’m trying to discourage this trip for reasons I’m sure folks can presume.

[WideReceiver]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

It would be nice if there was some sort of resistance in American government.

Instead of... whatever the Democrats call what they're doing.

The major resistance is in the media like MSNBC, and podcasters like Ben Meiselas.

[CroFlames]

Mass shootings are still a common occurrence there, so your traveling friends, even if they are white, should be a bit more cautious than when they are at home.

If they are Hispanic or "brown" looking in any sense, I would maybe plan something different.

[greyshep]

It seems that a public service announcement is needed in here...

Is it spelled border or boarder?

A border is an outer edge around something like a puzzle or a country. Add an "a" and a boarder is a person who pays to live and eat somewhere, like boarding school.

I dont know if its autocorrect on phones causing this but I sure see this a lot on here.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

I can't imagine that there actually is a "3rd rail" in American politics anymore. But if there is, this might just be it.

Seniors must now register in person for Social Security



The racist rural elder who loves Trump isn't going to love this.

The trouble is Trump's support is now young men, not the elderly

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

The trouble is Trump's support is now young men, not the elderly

This is a sort of late stage society sickness that is manifesting in a different way than typically, historically speaking.

When historical empires have produced long periods of peace, a problem ends up arising when young men (especially those in the mid to upper classes) have their upwards mobility potential limited, and start seeking other opportunities to find the upwards mobility they were promised. Yes, this is a bit gender specific but we are talking about history and many societies didn't have a lot of social mobility for women at all.

The young men would typically form mercenary bands, or become men at arms, or become highway men- generally they use the force that they represent to cajole society a bit and get what they want. Power structures started recognizing this, and so would engage in periodic expeditionary wars to essentially bleed out this class in a foreign land (e.g. crusades.) A much more recent example of this could potentially be seen in the Vietnam war, but typically people use the Crusades as an example.

But now we are in a new scenario. Professional militaries and technologies are so advanced that a general draft seems hard to rationalize. There's a massive class of disenfranchised young males who, rightly or wrongly, thought they had much better prospects than are manifesting and it's causing great angst. They are then being controlled and force fed media like Andrew Tate and Joe Rogan, which doubles down on their insecurities and offsets to xx (other groups, religions, sexes, sexual preferences, whatever just OTHER). I think this is where it's a bit different than the Nazi movement or other historical examples of groups trying to hold on to societal power. Plus, this group has been additionally targeted, again rightly or wrongly, by the large scale social movements of the last 2 decades. It's probably the hardest time in anyone's living memory to be a young adult male.

It's an interesting problem and I don't really know how to address it in the long term.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

How many transpeople are actually playing sports at a high level where this has somehow become a big concern. In fact I doubt many people could name more than 3 non-professional athletes that won medals in the Paris Olympics and those happened less than a year ago. It feels as though the issue is being promoted by a bunch of white men who want to appear as though they are defending women's rights, while at the same time taking them away with things that actually matter (ie bodily autonomy).

If someone can name 5 trans athletes without googling it I would be very impressed.

There seems to be an obvious solution here.

Male-to-female trans division
Female-to-male trans division

There have to be tons of trans folks who would love to play sports in a safe and welcoming environment who just don’t bother right now.

Very few people likely love volleyball or wrestling enough to go through the ####storm of negative attention that will no doubt follow.

Seems like that would help a lot with normalizing them as human beings.

And it removes an issue that can’t possibly be top of mind for anyone with real problems.

Or is that too easy?