Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I see Canada and Australia are paring up for northern over the horizon radar . Seems like a big thing for northern defense and stepping back from U.S reliance.

Pairing up with Australia for this? What a blunder, the radars will probably point the wrong way.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north...ctic-1.7486640

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

You have to imagine their internals are showing something that we're not seeing. I cannot fathom how they haven't pivoted yet.

When half their voters (and a much higher portion of their base) like what Trump is doing, they can only pivot so much before potentially impacting both their vote share and enthusiasm.

There's a reason Poilievre sits down for one-on-one interviews with people like Jordan Peterson and Candice Malcolm (who is now going after Carney's non-binary child for going to a "radical transgender clinic"); that's who he is.

[Cappy]

PP assets are 5 mil?

How does a career MP have 5 mil in assets?

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Cappy

PP assets are 5 mil?

How does a career MP have 5 mil in assets?

Savvy investing.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Well, at least he isn't parroting Trump. And then doing nothing about getting his job qualifications done.


It'd be super easy to vote for Pollievre for way too many people if he showed at least one single iota of situational awareness. Dude is in the middle of the biggest job interview of his life and he still has not gotten security clearance. It's a basic requirement he somehow deems unnecessary.

Pollievre hasn't even show the ability to pivot. His play has always been national issues and beating a liberal party that was ripe for the pickings.

Right now, nobody but Cons care about national issues because some asshat decided to challenge the country's sovereignty. Everybody else has focus shifted and the PCs are still trying to stick to their single policy campaign, which has zero teeth since the tax was literally axed.

Yup, which is why I said a week ago that Carney has every ability to win the election.

But at the same time we can't just put our blinders on and ignore the fact that the Liberals have done a pretty terrible job the last 10 years. The media should be putting the screws to Carney because of it. He can't be calling himself an outsider but then do everything the same with all the same people. And for the record when Trudeau started he actually ran on a very decent centrist platform. Similar to what people are going to expect from Carney.

[surferguy]

Originally Posted by Cappy

PP assets are 5 mil?

How does a career MP have 5 mil in assets?

He is on retainer for when the live action Simpsons movie goes into production.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

It boggles the mind that the CPC hasn't switched focus. Great, run attack ads but they should be:

"Carney keeps the carbon tax on Canadian businesses - he's driving them to the US just like Trump wants"

"Carney moved his business to the USA - he's not fighting for our jobs"

"The Liberals have been underinvesting in Canada's military for years, and now Carney is waffling on upgrades when there's a real threat"

Trump is clearly the #1 issue - they need to present themselves as being better able to deal with him.

The Liberals are also running attack ads claiming PP is unhappy that the price of gas is going down.

I mean I get the whole you need to pivot, but the sheer hypocrisy on the Liberals side is pretty mind blowing. A few months ago the consumer carbon tax was essential and the come hell or high water it was not being cancelled. Now its gone and they're proud that they turfed it and want to tell Canadians they care about their well being.

Hard to believe Canadians are so easily duped by the charade.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

You have to imagine their internals are showing something that we're not seeing. I cannot fathom how they haven't pivoted yet.

Dogmatic ideology?

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Cappy

PP assets are 5 mil?

How does a career MP have 5 mil in assets?

Not questioning, but is there a source for this?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Azure

The Liberals are also running attack ads claiming PP is unhappy that the price of gas is going down.

I mean I get the whole you need to pivot, but the sheer hypocrisy on the Liberals side is pretty mind blowing. A few months ago the consumer carbon tax was essential and the come hell or high water it was not being cancelled. Now its gone and they're proud that they turfed it and want to tell Canadians they care about their well being.

Hard to believe Canadians are so easily duped by the charade.

Shouldn’t be that hard to believe considering your history.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Azure

Hard to believe Canadians are so easily duped by the charade.

I can't believe Canadians, who didn't like the carbon tax, are happy with a leader who removed the carbon tax! The fools!

A carbon tax is going to happen. Eventually we are going to have to pull that knife, but it was political suicide right now and politics isn't about doing what is necessary... as sad as that is.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by TherapyforGlencross

338 Canada calling a Liberal majority at the moment, with 179 seats.

Have we ever seen such a fall before?

I said that the Libs would win even when the "polls' had the cons at a 97% chance of winning a majority and at 250+ seats... lol

There was no way in hell Ontario was going to let a freedumb supporting rightwing mini maga win.

They still need to release the attack ads on PP being male boobbus if they want to win a majority.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

I said that the Libs would win even when the "polls' had the cons at a 97% chance of winning a majority and at 250+ seats... lol

There was no way in hell Ontario was going to let a freedumb supporting rightwing mini maga win.

They still need to release the attack ads on PP being male boobbus if they want to win a majority.

I don’t think you get points for this when it took the fact that the Conservatives were going to win the next election for the liberals to pivot. Essentially your position was that people would never elect PP. If that was the case Trudeau would still be Prime Minister.

For you to be right here that the liberals will win means you were fundamentally wrong that Trudeau would win.

[Jason14h]

It’s a good thing the Liberals are being forced to operate like a serious government and worry about things like the economy .

It would also be a good thing in these recent polls force the cons to become more serious about the social concerns a lot of this country has and mature as a party in regards to an actual plan and platform

But it is pretty funny seeing people applauding Carney for cancelling a tax his party created , focusing less on left leaning social issues and fringe topics and more on the economy , and preaching smaller government who were lauding the exact same policies when the cons were saying it for years

If Carney was the PM for the newly elected cons he would be called the favorite CalgaryPuck buzzword - a deplorable . Not caring about the environment . Making minority policies less of a focus vs general economic growth policies.

The liberals have very smartly taken the platform and talking points that PP used to gain support and adopted them into their platform , while appealing to Canadians that they also don’t have the fringe crazy get right politicians and will stand up for Canada

It is a great strategy as has worked masterfully . And I am glad they have shifted to where they are and hope/pray if they win they actually govern this way vs what we have seen for a decade

But let’s not pretend most of what they are shifting too isn’t what the cons have been saying for years - or at least what people who were shifting to the cons have been asking for over the last years

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Cappy

PP assets are 5 mil?

How does a career MP have 5 mil in assets?

He has been an MP for 20 years with a starting salary of $140K and now making around $300K. He has a rental property in Ottawa that is likely $1.5M to $2M. It's not difficult to get to a $5M number based on those number.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by GGG

I don’t think you get points for this when it took the fact that the Conservatives were going to win the next election for the liberals to pivot. Essentially your position was that people would never elect PP. If that was the case Trudeau would still be Prime Minister.

For you to be right here that the liberals will win means you were fundamentally wrong that Trudeau would win.

Trudeau would still have beat PP if he didn't resign. No idiot with any sort of education would have voted for PP after the attack ads.

[woob]

Originally Posted by Firebot

The irony of some usual posters all huffy and puffy because notorious CBC "hard right winger" Rosemary Barton asked a very normal follow up question to a snarky deflection by Carney on what was a pretty softball question by Stephanie Levitz really says it all.

Are you a CBC fan now? Fund the CBC!

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Trudeau would still have beat PP if he didn't resign. No idiot with any sort of education would have voted for PP after the attack ads.

Trudeau wouldn’t have resigned if there was any evidence this is true.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Cappy

PP assets are 5 mil?

How does a career MP have 5 mil in assets?

Maybe thats why he doesn't want security clearance.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

But let’s not pretend most of what they are shifting too isn’t what the cons have been saying for years - or at least what people who were shifting to the cons have been asking for over the last years

Nobody is.

It’s just funny watching the same people who were scoffing at the idea of the CPC needing a change at the top a couple months ago and patting the Cons on the back for their assured victory suddenly turn around and make all sorts of excuses for what people predicted coming true.