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Old 03-17-2025, 11:23 AM   #8181
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Jan 6th showed just how weak security is at the capitol. A well organized militia could easily take out the power players.
I think this a somewhat flawed retelling of J6. The White house in not the capitol, one is a public square that had fencing up for an event, the other is almost a walled fortress, they were allowed to mobilize within walking distance of the capitol, the security apparatus was actively trying not to hurt anyone, and there were mixed messages from the command structure about reenforcing the position when it became clear that needed to happen.

I don't think a militia marching on Trump would be afforded any of the leniency the J6 terrorists were afforded.
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Jan 6th showed just how weak security is at the capitol. A well organized militia could easily take out the power players.
If the sitting government is suppressing preparation and response… yeah it’ll be like Jan 6.
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And this habit of turning politics into team sports, absorbing it for eight hours a day through various podcasts and 24/7 new channels is a huge problem that needs to be corrected.. not something the left should start adopting.

I enjoy Sam Sedar, Kara Swisher, David Pakman etc but my lord I don't want to listen to any of them and get sucked into a politcal brain drain for three hours a week, much less a day. Scott Galloway is interesting on Pivot with Kara Swisher but lord almighty he gets annoying quick, even when I agree with him.

"If" Joe Rogan is right wing isn't a question anymore. The guy was a full on puppet for the Donald Trump campaign in the final months.



This is from the Rogan subreddit.

But the left aren't standing up for themselves either.

Dems/the left crushed Bernie for going on Rogan years ago, so no one on that side of the aisle, regardless of how far they stood from the aisle, decided it was worth going on his podcast and facing that level of backlash from their allies. Now that he has a massive audience, it's "you have to go on his podcast!", which flies in the face of their history of burying people who have gone on his podcast. If no one from the left will go on, who does that cede the field to? They did it to themselves.
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If they actually hung Mike Pence would that have stopped Trump 2.0?

Mike and his fly should have taken one for the world.
No, if they’d hanged Pence I doubt it would have changed things.
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But the left aren't standing up for themselves either.

Dems/the left crushed Bernie for going on Rogan years ago, so no one on that side of the aisle, regardless of how far they stood from the aisle, decided it was worth going on his podcast and facing that level of backlash from their allies. Now that he has a massive audience, it's "you have to go on his podcast!", which flies in the face of their history of burying people who have gone on his podcast. If no one from the left will go on, who does that cede the field to? They did it to themselves.
You're framing media exposure as some kind of left vs right even playing field, when in reality it's interests of the billionaire class vs anything else. Joe Rogan, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson and all those other podcasters have the backing of the billionaire class, ergo they get the exposure.
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You're framing media exposure as some kind of left vs right even playing field, when in reality it's interests of the billionaire class vs anything else. Joe Rogan, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson and all those other podcasters have the backing of the billionaire class, ergo they get the exposure.
Funding is one thing but you need listeners and subscribers. Things can get funded into the ground with a bad model.

Is Joe Rogan's Spotify deal right-wing funded? Spotify took a huge risk, it was a music platform.

How does Theo Von get labeled Right Wing? The guy is a goofball comedian with no clue about politics. Sure, he had Trump on and was friendly (mostly rambled about his cocaine addiction while Trump had no idea how to respond), but he also had Bernie Sanders on right before Trump, and seemed excited about everything Bernie said.
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Funding is one thing but you need listeners and subscribers. Things can get funded into the ground with a bad model.

Is Joe Rogan's Spotify deal right-wing funded? Spotify took a huge risk, it was a music platform.
Spotify is owned by billionaire tech bro shareholders, the largest of which is co-founder Daniel Ek, net worth $7.31 billion.

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It'd be cool if there was a partial block feature here. Like it'd be great if you could block Girly on Off Topic, but not Other Sports.
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I think this a somewhat flawed retelling of J6. The White house in not the capitol, one is a public square that had fencing up for an event, the other is almost a walled fortress, they were allowed to mobilize within walking distance of the capitol, the security apparatus was actively trying not to hurt anyone, and there were mixed messages from the command structure about reenforcing the position when it became clear that needed to happen.

I don't think a militia marching on Trump would be afforded any of the leniency the J6 terrorists were afforded.
Well ya, they can't just get 1000 guys with guns and walk up to the Whitehouse. I just meant it seems easy enough to catch security apparatus by surprise, so a "well organized militia" would have a chance at a sneak strike if they planned well. Mar-a-Lago is probably a much softer target.



I almost searched what is the most destructive weapon a US civilian can legally buy, but thought that might be a pretty quick red flag Google search. I assume it's bigger than a rifle, though.
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Well ya, they can't just get 1000 guys with guns and walk up to the Whitehouse. I just meant it seems easy enough to catch security apparatus by surprise, so a "well organized militia" would have a chance at a sneak strike if they planned well. Mar-a-Lago is probably a much softer target.



I almost searched what is the most destructive weapon a US civilian can legally buy, but thought that might be a pretty quick red flag Google search. I assume it's bigger than a rifle, though.
arnold bought a tank!


the guys from roadkill went to some guy's place and drove over a prius!!


so i'm guessing you can legally own a freakin' TANK in the states!
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The right has just led the charge in sensationalizing politics. I think it's less of a right v left than it is a moderate v extremist issue. "Good immigration policy that keeps population levels rising to support capitalism is a good idea" doesn't sell as well as "They're stealing your jobs!!" There's a lot of "both sides" but the right wing social mediasphere has made a living from telling people the "left" are the only reason they aren't successful and rich. Rogan, Peterson, Shapiro are basically all selling the idea that greatness has been stolen from the right, and they need to steal it back from the left.

The truth of the situation imo is that corporate capture and corruption has stolen "greatness" from the people and they should be demanding more from their government as a whole. But its easier just to pit people against each other and let them tear each other apart while you sip fine whiskeys and watch.
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arnold bought a tank!


the guys from roadkill went to some guy's place and drove over a prius!!


so i'm guessing you can legally own a freakin' TANK in the states!
I believe the main gun is disabled.

Kinda a limp dyck tank
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There was a guy out by Vermilion who bought an old Israeli tank from someone in the USA. Bringing it home, the border guards searched it thoroughly for alcohol and tobacco but ignored the few live rounds rolling around.
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The difference between now and before is then people used their brains since they had to cause they weren't spoon fed information from their devices and were more socialized for the same reasons. You had to go out and interact face to face with people of all walks of life. Also people's parents/grandparents who lived through war times were still alive and talked/knocked sense into their kids on good virtues and not taking their way of life for granted.

Now people of earlier generations that had real world wisdom have mostly passed away and people have become progressively dumber through social media brain rot and less incentivized to fact check what their newsfeeds tell them, not to mention less socialized and more isolated (COVID/WFH). Those factors have contributed to the left and right putting up walls, and personalized algorithms have strengthened and polarized people's views. They can #### talk people who disagree with them through the internet and don't have to practice social etiquette like one must when interacting face to face. So those discussion get less and less civil with more scathing generalizations of other groups.

But the buffer against stupidity on both sides that we've lost is no longer having your WW2 lived veteran family members there to remind people why we don't entertain figures with Hitler-esque ideals and why that and upholding democracy overrides the petty quarrels of the left/right.

And the difference there is those used to be intellectual debates more than emotional debates where people's very identities feel threatened (a result of our social isolation). Back then every one recognized that we were all trying to achieve many of the same goals at the end of the day. And saying you're liberal or conservative out loud did not evoke the kind of reactions it does now. It was just a footnote, not a make or break factor socially. It's pretty insane where we've come to.
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Remember when these peckerheads were stomping their feet about statues of their great, great granddaddy's favorite racists being torn down?

Na###o Code Talkers disappear from military websites after Trump DEI order

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Articles about the renowned Native American Code Talkers have disappeared from some military websites, with several broken URLs now labeled "DEI."

Why it matters: From 1942 to 1945, the Na###o Code Talkers were instrumental in every major Marine Corps operation in the Pacific Theater of World War II.

They were critical to securing America's victory at Iwo Jima.

Driving the news: Axios identified at least 10 articles mentioning the Code Talkers that had disappeared from the U.S. Army and Department of Defense websites as of Monday.
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The other side: Asked about the missing pages, Pentagon Press Secretary John Ullyot replied in a statement: "As Secretary [Pete] Hegseth has said, DEI is dead at the Defense Department. ... We are pleased by the rapid compliance across the Department with the directive removing DEI content from all platforms."

"In the rare cases that content is removed that is out of the clearly outlined scope of the directive, we instruct components accordingly."
The statement did not address whether the Code Talkers are considered divisive DEI figures that "erode camaraderie and threaten mission execution."
https://www.axios.com/local/salt-lak...-websites-wwii

F### these people with a cactus.

Also, bad form to censor the Na###o name. I'm sure v#j is such a horrifyingly offensive word that it had to be done.
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Also, bad form to censor the Na###o name. I'm sure v#j is such a horrifyingly offensive word that it had to be done.
What's especially f-cking stupid about it is that 'vag' is not censored.

Seriously, this forum needs to dump the swear filter wholesale. It's idiotic and serves no purpose, especially since whoever set it up clearly doesn't understand how to do it correctly so words like Navаjo aren't caught but vаj -- which is, again, a stupid fսcking use of a swear filter -- is.
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The funniest part is that apparently "peckerheads" was totally fine
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What's especially f-cking stupid about it is that 'vag' is not censored.

Seriously, this forum needs to dump the swear filter wholesale. It's idiotic and serves no purpose, especially since whoever set it up clearly doesn't understand how to do it correctly so words like Navаjo aren't caught but vаj -- which is, again, a stupid fսcking use of a swear filter -- is.
But what about Scorpion who frequents the forums? He's only like 26 so we have to watch our language around him.
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