American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Yeah, centrist liberals have always believed that because their ideas are so superior, they would always win out in the "marketplace of ideas." That arrogance kind of blinded then to the point that they never seriously considered that said market could be manipulated or completely captured by dishonest actors en masse, even when it was happening right in front of them.

Yup. Though I wouldn't focus in on this being a centrist liberal thing only. The progressives and everyone else on the left are all guilty of that arrogance and unwavering belief in their own superiority. It would be a good step to adopt the saying that the congressman mentioned in an earlier video I shared, "I'm a liberal, but I'm not condescending about it." Unfortunately, I don't see that happening.

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1901074816997994651

This PP look alike goofball is wearing makeup by Donald.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

It doesn't even require dishonest actors. Look at what sorts of things thw youtube algorithm originally promoted when no one had their finger on the scale - it wasn't dishonest, it simply calculated what would keep apes like us staring at the screen for longer... and it turns out the answer to that was incredibly depressing. There's a reason that guys like Dave Rubin wandered ever more towards the extreme right wing over time - that's where the viewers and money are.

We, as a species, are a horror show. The anti-natalists have a point.

By your reasoning it should be split 50/50. The algorithm creates bubbles on both sides.

If the voting is split and the shows are split why aren't the liberal shows equally as successful as conservative ones? Because nobody wants to listen to a show where they are talked down to.

Pod Save America should have 20 million subscribers, not 2 million.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

By your reasoning it should be split 50/50. The algorithm creates bubbles on both sides.

If the voting is split and the shows are split why aren't the liberal shows equally as successful as conservative ones?

Because Liberal shows discuss reality, and Conservative shows tell people what they want to hear. It easy to build an audience if truth doesn't matter. It's a lot harder to have frank realistic discussions using facts.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

By your reasoning it should be split 50/50. The algorithm creates bubbles on both sides.



If the voting is split and the shows are split why aren't the liberal shows equally as successful as conservative ones? Because nobody wants to listen to a show where they are talked down to.



Pod Save America should have 20 million subscribers, not 2 million.

The algorithm rewards attention. That's it. Emotional engagement gets attention.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

By your reasoning it should be split 50/50. The algorithm creates bubbles on both sides.

If the voting is split and the shows are split why aren't the liberal shows equally as successful as conservative ones? Because nobody wants to listen to a show where they are talked down to.

Pod Save America should have 20 million subscribers, not 2 million.

I don't know if this is completely true but I've seen some discussions which make two interesting claims on why right wing podcasts have more listeners than left. One point is that some right wing podcasts actually try to bring in left leaning figures which draws in some left leaning audience. The opposite is very rarely the case. The second point is somewhat related in that left leaning audiences are much more willing to entertain the right wing podcasts so that they can pick up on the talking points for whatever reason (learning or mocking or other purposes.) Right wing audiences won't waste their time and just wait for the best left podcast soundbites to filter their way.

[dissentowner]

So despite a judge putting a court order to stop Trump from sending immigrants to Venezuela yesterday, Trump sent them anyhow. He is not going to obey any court judgement is he? Why would he, what can they do about it?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Nothing. Elon Musk is now the supreme leader of the US and Donald Trump is his live in nanny.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So despite a judge putting a court order to stop Trump from sending immigrants to Venezuela yesterday, Trump sent them anyhow. He is not going to obey any court judgement is he? Why would he, what can they do about it?

During his first term, as well as the four years after, Trump seemed to be more selective of the things he'd move forward with that he knew would get challenged in the courts. So far, during this current term, It looks like he's going the opposite direction and moving ahead with everything, seemingly without the same consideration. Maybe to test out just how much he'll be able to push through. I read a few weeks ago that the courts still had hundreds of cases to review in the queue and make decisions on.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So despite a judge putting a court order to stop Trump from sending immigrants to Venezuela yesterday, Trump sent them anyhow. He is not going to obey any court judgement is he? Why would he, what can they do about it?

Not only that he sent them to El Salvador. The orange rapist prob doesn't know they aren't the same country.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Yup. Though I wouldn't focus in on this being a centrist liberal thing only. The progressives and everyone else on the left are all guilty of that arrogance and unwavering belief in their own superiority. It would be a good step to adopt the saying that the congressman mentioned in an earlier video I shared, "I'm a liberal, but I'm not condescending about it." Unfortunately, I don't see that happening.

All of the large platforms on that graphic have welcomed in frustrated, young (mostly white) males.
The same people the left just call deplorables, misogynists, incels; and the demographic that won Trump the election.

In team politics of the right vs left, one team was recruiting while the other team was telling the recruits how terrible and unnecessary they are.

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1901252625229586522

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Or the right has better content, better conversations

or there are more stupid people than smart people

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I don't know if this is completely true but I've seen some discussions which make two interesting claims on why right wing podcasts have more listeners than left. One point is that some right wing podcasts actually try to bring in left leaning figures which draws in some left leaning audience. The opposite is very rarely the case. The second point is somewhat related in that left leaning audiences are much more willing to entertain the right wing podcasts so that they can pick up on the talking points for whatever reason (learning or mocking or other purposes.) Right wing audiences won't waste their time and just wait for the best left podcast soundbites to filter their way.

This is true but the right just have more content, more hours etc...

Rogan, if you consider him right wing, does 3 hours per day interviewing different guests. Others over an hour everyday. Since news is current, they are on top of everything.

[Hockeyguy15]

If?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Rogan just had a holocaust denier on.

####ing hate that guy and his stupid reactions and voice

[Sylvanfan]

Some of the right wing content likely has more sensationalist sound bites. Plus you have Elon likely trying to draw people there on X with that crowd.

Another factor is some prominent harder right have gone entirely to the pod cast online world as part of their mainstream media is fake news.

The Whitehouse is barring Reuters and the Associated press...but accredited Brian Glenn. They've been accusing the left of silencing the free press for years...seemingly so no one would notice when they did thst exact thing.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Rogan just had a holocaust denier on.

####ing hate that guy and his stupid reactions and voice

I couldn't care less about Rogan, I just dont listen. But Holocaust deniers are something I hate.

Ship them to Poland and let them see for themselves. I knew a Holocaust survivor, I have literally seen an Auschwitz prisoner's tattoo in the flesh, so I'll have no business with deniers.

Its like they need to be slapped in the face.

[WideReceiver]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

It's great to see.

He said he was going to deport illegal immigrants. They have illegal immigrant family members. They voted for him. They are getting what they voted for.

You get the government you deserve.

Hold my beer. -Danielle Smith

[GirlySports]

Regardless, people want long form interviews and conservative shows offer this, even with dissenting voices or people on the opposite side. Sure there are hits and misses but its all out there, hours and hours.

It's almost like baseball, it becomes habit viewing/listening

Name any left wing show that talks to anyone for an hour, let alone 3.