The ongoing X and Elon Musk Transgressions Thread

[Reggie Dunlop]

Seen a cybertruck all decaled up for a local landscaping company today.

Like that thing will be haulin' sod n' stuff.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Just drove behind a Tesla with this sticker.
I do feel bad for people who have had Tesla's a while.

[nik-]

Friendly reminder that he called the diver, who was trying to rescue a bunch of children stuck in a cave, a pedophile, for having the gall to tell him they couldn't use his submarine in cave passages, back in 2018.

He's been a well known piece of #### for a long time.

[photon]

Yeah saw a Tesla today with the new anti-keying technology, stickers that said something along the lines of them supporting clean air not Elon's craziness.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by photon

Yeah saw a Tesla today with the new anti-keying technology, stickers that said something along the lines of them supporting clean air not Elon's craziness.

Now, when their car gets keyed, they won't know if it was done by someone who hates Musk, or someone who hates electric cars.

[KelVarnsen]

Spoiler for size

Spoiler!

[missdpuck]

Anyone who thinks Musk is undeserving of hate doesn’t know enough about him. I was on the fence about him a couple of years ago. Then I watched a video of him going on about pronatalism, eugenics, his plan to basically destroy and develop every inch of land. We shouldn’t have parks, forests, etc according to him. They are a waste.

It’s not just a matter of a differing opinion. He doesn’t think we should enjoy the experience of being human, which is also what his father thinks. We should work, reproduce and die. That’s it. Which is pretty much what he is doing.

And, since he supports the twisted horror espoused in the book “Unhumans”, he doesn’t think of you as a human. So don’t think of him as one.

[marsplasticeraser]

Originally Posted by GGG

We should also ban Twitter prior to the election campaign due to the risk of foreign interference.

It’s weird that there is no way to throttle or handle situations like Twitter. They’ve managed to make it so nobody is responsible for what is being said.

The original idea was that this was supposed to be like a few people having a discussion in a pub or coffee shop, and having no limits on that type of speech is reasonable.

But when tweets have much bigger reach than mainstream news than the concept that there are no repercussions doesn’t seem reasonable.

And when the tweets seem like direct propaganda designed to destabilize a country it seems like something that should be avoided.

I don’t know if I favour shutting down Twitter altogether for Canadians. But it seems that if we want to give twitter access to operate in Canada they need to be held to the same requirements of a media company.

Simple things like restricting the distribution of misinformation and propaganda shown to Canadians by any large account would be a start.

[The Big Chill]

Elon shares a tweet saying Hitler didn’t murder millions, public sector workers did.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2714911.html

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by The Big Chill

Elon shares a tweet saying Hitler didn’t murder millions, public sector workers did.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2714911.html

The man has truly gone insane.

[Ped]

But it's his business practices that make us hate him.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by marsplasticeraser

It’s weird that there is no way to throttle or handle situations like Twitter. They’ve managed to make it so nobody is responsible for what is being said.

The original idea was that this was supposed to be like a few people having a discussion in a pub or coffee shop, and having no limits on that type of speech is reasonable.

But when tweets have much bigger reach than mainstream news than the concept that there are no repercussions doesn’t seem reasonable.

And when the tweets seem like direct propaganda designed to destabilize a country it seems like something that should be avoided.

I don’t know if I favour shutting down Twitter altogether for Canadians. But it seems that if we want to give twitter access to operate in Canada they need to be held to the same requirements of a media company.

Simple things like restricting the distribution of misinformation and propaganda shown to Canadians by any large account would be a start.

So in the US they have section 230 protections:

"No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider." (47 U.S.C. § 230(c)(1)).

Section 230 embodies that principle that we should all be responsible for our own actions and statements online, but generally not those of others. The law prevents most civil suits against users or services that are based on what others say.

Congress passed this bipartisan legislation because it recognized that promoting more user speech online outweighed potential harms. When harmful speech takes place, it’s the speaker that should be held responsible, not the service that hosts the speech.

Section 230’s protections are not absolute. It does not protect companies that violate federal criminal law. It does not protect companies that create illegal or harmful content. Nor does Section 230 protect companies from intellectual property claims.

https://www.eff.org/issues/cda230

It's well worth reading this link with plain language explanations of how it works.

If the law makes us liable for the speech of others, the biggest platforms would likely become locked-down and heavily censored. The next great websites and apps won’t even get started, because they’ll face overwhelming legal risk to host users’ speech.

By getting rid of the protections, the internet as we know it would cease to be able to exist. By keeping them, legally it's much harder to force companies to do any censorship, though almost all do for the worst of content. CUSMA provides similar reciprocity in Canada and Mexico, though not the same. From what I've read, we do have avenues to control content in Canada. The trouble is applying then and not getting into endless legal cases.

This is why now, with the US ignoring CUSMA and Musk being an actual threat to our democracy that I believe a full X ban would be the most straightforward and easiest to defend. Musk has amplified clear white supremacist accounts on Xitter, and our hate speech laws should apply, which gives a direct justification for the ban.

Though I do believe we need more specific narrow laws to control misinformation, given it's threat, and humanity's general lack of intelligence.

[PepsiFree]

Based on what we know about Musk it’s just as likely he meant that as a compliment to public sector workers.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by photon

Yeah saw a Tesla today with the new anti-keying technology, stickers that said something along the lines of them supporting clean air not Elon's craziness.

Teslers are not yet carbon neutral.

[Fuzz]

Supporting Elon Musk now means supporting Trump, and Trump is gutting environmental regulations and doesn't give two ####s about CO2, so by buying a Tesla, you are actually harming the environment more than any other vehicle.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by underGRADFlame

I’m honestly shocked by the level of hate and vitriol people on CP spew toward Elon Musk. Disagreeing with someone, criticizing their decisions, or even strongly disliking them is one thing—but celebrating or wishing for someone’s death? That’s a whole different level of messed up and it’s a bit embarrassing for more than a few of you.

It doesn’t matter if you think he’s a genius, a fool, a visionary, or a villain—he’s still a human being. The idea that people feel justified in hoping for someone’s death just because they don’t like his business practices or personality is disturbing. If you find yourself in that mindset, maybe take a step back and ask yourself what that says about you.

You don’t have to like him, but if you’re cheering for his downfall in the most extreme way possible, you’re not standing up for justice—you’re just being a terrible human being. Let’s be better than that.

The only good nazi is a dead nazi.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by The Big Chill

Elon shares a tweet saying Hitler didn’t murder millions, public sector workers did.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2714911.html

What a piece of $hit

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by The Big Chill

Elon shares a tweet saying Hitler didn’t murder millions, public sector workers did.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2714911.html

In saner times, anyone retweeting this would face immediate dismissal from any and all organizations they were associated with.

[Johnny Makarov]

Time for Canada to ban twitter today.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by D as in David

In saner times, anyone retweeting this would face immediate dismissal from any and all organizations they were associated with.

Marge Schott said less (and not publicly, it was recorded) and was suspended from MLB for a year and forced to sell the Reds.