American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by NuclearFart

I guess if you are still in junior high or personally know that they bought it recently as a show of support for his ideals? I'd wager that 99% of current Tesla owners did not, and have had it for a couple, if not a few years. A scant minority will have the funds to just quickly swap out their heavily depreciated car, especially going into a devalued Canadian dollar with impending recession.

Spoiler!

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Yamer

People like Karoline Leavitt, Lindsey Graham, and Pete Hegseth?

No, probably not.

Hegseth is secretary of defense, so that might be a different story. Graham and Leavitt, though? I don't think it's crazy at all, if you're patient and do your due diligence... You don't have to get them while they're at work.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

Is it wrong for me to greet Tesla drivers with the Musk open hearted maneuver?

I want them to feel welcome.

I seriously thought about that as a form of protest: giving a Nazi salute to every Cybertruck driver I see to shame them for buying a swasticar. Then a friend pointed out that not everyone would understand the intent of my gesture and some might think I was an actual Nazi.

[redflamesfan08]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

What assumptions am I making?

Trump said "I'm gonna do these horrible things", and people voted for him.
At some point they need to square that away. They voted for someone who's platform included intentionally hurting a lot of innocent/vulnerable people.

They did that for a lot of reasons, and yeah, most of them were probably economic.
I'll give people a pass on not being smart enough to figure out that Trump is never going to deliver the economic part they want/need, because he truly doesn't care about anyone but himself.
But at some point people need to look in the mirror and accept that this is what they signed up for. They gave Trump carte blanche do do as much harm as he wanted. To hurt whoever he wanted, on the promise that he would help them.

Giving them the best possible benefit of the doubt, 70 million people voted for a platform that promised them what they wanted, with the cost being harm to some of the most vulnerable people in the country. Everyone made a conscious decision that that harm was justifiable because they would get what they wanted/needed.

We're in a similar situation in Alberta and Canada.

On one hand I've got PP telling me that he will make my life better, that I'll have more money in my pocket. Danielle Smith is telling me the same thing. But that promise comes with all the baggage of the BS trans rights issues the Danielle Smith is currently doing and PP has definitely nodded at. It's an easy decision for me. I'm not willing to vote for someone who claims they will make my life better if the trade off is letting them harm other, vulnerable people. Will any of that stop me from putting food on the table? No, and I'm grateful to be in that position, but regardless of where we are economically, we need to own up to our choices, and what the implications of them are. Regardless of why you voted for Trump, you also voted for all of the horrible things he's doing.
Trump voters voted for all of the horrible things he's doing. They own all of the horrible things he's doing.

Also bear in mind, an argument could be made that every government promises things that will harm people.
The difference is Donald Trump, and his ilk, aren't promising things that will have a side effect of harming people, they are actively promising to harm people.
That is the promise, harm for harm's sake.
That is, at least in some part, what 70 million people voted for.

Absolutely amazing post, thank you for saying this, and doing so far more eloquently than I'd expect from a Shantz fan!

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

I seriously thought about that as a form of protest: giving a Nazi salute to every Cybertruck driver I see to shame them for buying a swasticar. Then a friend pointed out that not everyone would understand the intent of my gesture and some might think I was an actual Nazi.

It's definitely something you'd have to perform with confidence, but also jovial flair. A very fine line.


It's a lot easier for me to get away with throwing my heart to my brother(Tesla cool-aid guzzler) when he walks through the door, though.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

"They are vile, irredeemable and disgusting and deserve to burn in hell!"

Who am I?

A - MAGA voter talking about trans people
B - CP poster talking about MAGA voters.

*Insert spidermen pointing meme here*

There are a spectrum of Trump voters. The MAGA are pretty darn close to nazi's and deserve the scorn directed towards them.

Then there are the majority of Trump voters, who are a combination of inconceivably stupid, inconceivably ignorant, or just voted that way because of the price of eggs and ####.

MAGA is the new Nazi. That's based on evidence of actions. Trump is an autocrat, his version of the Jews are immigrants, especially muslim and Palestinian's.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Hegseth is secretary of defense, so that might be a different story. Graham and Leavitt, though? I don't think it's crazy at all, if you're patient and do your due diligence... You don't have to get them while they're at work.

I was talking about being on the front lines fighting. Not whether they could be assassinated.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

"They are vile, irredeemable and disgusting and deserve to burn in hell!"

Who am I?

A - MAGA voter talking about trans people
B - CP poster talking about MAGA voters.

*Insert spidermen pointing meme here*

Good read for you

https://medium.com/@parkermolloy/dec...e-666a1bf04a65

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

The trans people didn't do anything to deserve it, though?

Nor is anyone advocating treating MAGA bros as criminals (outside of Jan 6ers) or calling for their entire being to be wiped out.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Cappy

Nor is anyone advocating treating MAGA bros as criminals (outside of Jan 6ers) or calling for their entire being to be wiped out.

You kinda have to pity for these moronic deplorables.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Yamer

I was talking about being on the front lines fighting. Not whether they could be assassinated.

Ah, see I don't really think there will be any front lines. I was treating it as, "whose lives would actually be at risk".

Originally Posted by Cappy

Nor is anyone advocating treating MAGA bros as criminals (outside of Jan 6ers) or calling for their entire being to be wiped out.

Well...

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I don't necessarily see voting Trump as evil

He hurts women. Rape and sexual assault.

[Looch City]

Y'all remember the good ol days of "both sides, many sides" being the worst thing this ####### said?

Oh how far we've come!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

These people have shown time and again that rational conversation is impossible. They are not living in anything that resembles reality. They are locked in a social media, algorithm driven bubble. Even if you had a psychology degree with a focus on cult deprogramming I don't know how you expect to get anywhere with these folks. Like other cults we've seen the only thing that will end it is the end of the cult itself.

Seriously, what are you supposed to try and do with someone like this? You think you can "conversation" them into reality? Maybe ignoring them would be better in your view than slandering them, but believing there's a sweet spot to having rational conversations with irrational people is hoping for a miracle.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1898868495477010914

Why was 'man-bun' even allowed to speak?

[Fuzz]

He ran to the chair first.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

You think if the US invaded Canada NATO would all declare war on the US and come to our aid?

100% guarantee they would Neville Chamberlain that.

You're wrong. It would absolutely start WW3 and Trump knows it. It will never happen.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

He ran to the chair first.

That man has never run in his life. He couldnt even keep his ridiculous glasses on his face while sitting down.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

If the U.S. attacked, Canada would fold fast. I don’t know if other countries would come to our aid. I think this is unlikely but the chance that it could and Congress likely wouldn’t stop him terrifies me. We’ll be overseas soon for a few weeks and I hope we’ll be able to return to a country that’s not at war. (I can’t believe I’ve typed this.)

I would bet anything not only would NATO come to our defence but you would have a war in the US's own military. Do you realize how close the US military in Northern States and our guys are? They are like a brotherhood. You would end up with a coup down there. Trump will try and financially squeeze us into joining the US but there is absolutely no chance he risks everything by using force against Canada. People are being paranoid.

[Locke]

"Land of the Free" my ass.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Locke

That man has never run in his life. He couldnt even keep his ridiculous glasses on his face while sitting down.

See, this is how I know you only watched the short clip.