2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

You wouldn't have traded Wolf for a 24-year-old Jake Oettinger 2 years ago?

I get now, and I'm there as well, but that's not the same discussion.

I mean that IS literally the discussion

Trading a star prospect for a current star. We had this convo with Wolf and anyone who wouldn't make the hypothetical trade was called crazy at the time although it now seems like the right call. When you factor in age, contract, ect. you are losing massive advantages in exchange for less risk (taking the sure thing)

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Bouchard is a bonkers comparable. That’s just people looking at draft position. Parekh has already outscored him in their OHL careers by Bouchard’s highest single season total (in less games!).

It's not bonkers at all.

How they do it is different, and Enoch is right about calling out some points inflation from playing with McDavid, but if we're looking at production, Parekh topping out as a 60-70 pt D that scores the majority of his points on the powerplay and needs to be sheltered 5-on-5...that's completely in the realm of possibilities.

Based on his junior career and trajectory, there's rightful optimism Parekh amounts to more, but it's not even remotely as bonkers as you're suggesting.

[5abi]

Why is Parekh not being called up? Honest question

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by 5abi

Why is Parekh not being called up? Honest question

He can't be until his season is over

[bluejays]

I know we’re all going silly talking about hypothetically dealing Parekh with no rumour attached, but his style on the ice is so much like Bedard. He’s got the same stature and release style. A year ago Bedard was a can’t miss and a generational talent from his world junior showing. He’s now a bit muted. Point is you never know how smaller stature players specifically, will or will not translate to impact players. At the NHL level they now face size with speed.

[bdubbs]

Originally Posted by bluejays

I know we’re all going silly talking about hypothetically dealing Parekh with no rumour attached, but his style on the ice is so much like Bedard. He’s got the same stature and release style. A year ago Bedard was a can’t miss and a generational talent from his world junior showing. He’s now a bit muted. Point is you never know how smaller stature players specifically, will or will not translate to impact players. At the NHL level they now face size with speed.

Why are people constantly questioning Parekh's size as if he's some midget?

Zayne Parekh
Defense -- shoots R
Born Feb 15 2006 -- Markham, ONT
[19 yrs. ago]
Height 6.00 -- Weight 185 [183 cm/84 kg]

From HockeyDB.

He's an average sized D-man and taller and heavier than Quinn Hughes and Adam Fox.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by 5abi

Why is Parekh not being called up? Honest question

It is a part of the NHL-CHL transfer agreement. Like dino said, If a player is returned/sent to juniors, he can't return to the NHL team until his junior team's season ends.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by bdubbs

Why are people constantly questioning Parekh's size as if he's some midget?

Zayne Parekh
Defense -- shoots R
Born Feb 15 2006 -- Markham, ONT
[19 yrs. ago]
Height 6.00 -- Weight 185 [183 cm/84 kg]

From HockeyDB.

He's an average sized D-man and taller and heavier than Quinn Hughes and Adam Fox.

He doesn’t look 6’. He could be but it doesn’t pass the smell test where athletes have their sizes bloated. Anyway, we simply don’t know how his size will translate to the league.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by bluejays

I know we’re all going silly talking about hypothetically dealing Parekh with no rumour attached, but his style on the ice is so much like Bedard. He’s got the same stature and release style. A year ago Bedard was a can’t miss and a generational talent from his world junior showing. He’s now a bit muted. Point is you never know how smaller stature players specifically, will or will not translate to impact players. At the NHL level they now face size with speed.

Bedard is doing fine...Hawks are failing him. Put McDavid on the Hawks with that supporting cast and guess his numbers.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I mean that IS literally the discussion

Trading a star prospect for a current star. We had this convo with Wolf and anyone who wouldn't make the hypothetical trade was called crazy at the time although it now seems like the right call. When you factor in age, contract, ect. you are losing massive advantages in exchange for less risk (taking the sure thing)

The discussions around Wolf were like the discussions around Coronato last year -- basically throw him in for a moderate improvement or to get a deal done. I wouldn't have even considered that and argued that. But trading a stud prospect who has considerable development risk for an established top three young player at the same position with long term contract security? I'd absolutely consider it.

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by bluejays

He doesn’t look 6’. He could be but it doesn’t pass the smell test where athletes have their sizes bloated. Anyway, we simply don’t know how his size will translate to the league.

Only way to settle this is for someone from CP to find Zayne and measure him.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Jiggy

Only way to settle this is for someone from CP to find Zayne and measure him.

Craig Conroy's listed at 6'2 and Parekh is maybe a couple inches shorter (although he has jealousy inspiring hair):

[bdubbs]

Originally Posted by bluejays

He doesn’t look 6’. He could be but it doesn’t pass the smell test where athletes have their sizes bloated. Anyway, we simply don’t know how his size will translate to the league.

My apologies. I guess I was foolish to attempt to dispel concerns with mere facts. Your eye test should be reported on each player profile going forward to ensure maximum accuracy, yes?

[SemicolonD]

So could we potentially call him up for the playoffs? I know it's a lot of pressure and not the place to put in a rookie, but just imagine if he has an instant impact like Makar did. Would be nice for something like this to go right for the Flames for once.

[Sample00]

Originally Posted by SemicolonD

So could we potentially call him up for the playoffs? I know it's a lot of pressure and not the place to put in a rookie, but just imagine if he has an instant impact like Makar did. Would be nice for something like this to go right for the Flames for once.

if the Flames continue to be in a hunt for a playoff spot, there is little chance that he gets into games.
He might be along for the ride and maybe gets a look if the Flames start to seperate themselves from the pack but at this point, I doubt he gets in.

[memphusk]

I would call him up for the playoffs. Let the kids play.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

Craig Conroy's listed at 6'2 and Parekh is maybe a couple inches shorter (although he has jealousy inspiring hair):

They all have great hair.

[mile]

Parekh measured in at just over 6'0 at the combine...


https://thehockeywriters.com/2024-nh...s-and-weights/

Zayne Parekh: 6-foot-0.25, 178 pounds.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

This is not true. Dahlin had 44 points in the ACTUAL NHL in his draft+1 season. Parekh's NHLE is 46 (according to another poster)... Dahlin was also younger in his d+1 year.

I get the hype around Parekh and that he's put up a historically special season in the OHL but to ignore how amazing Dahlin was at the same age and how great he is now -- on a very crap team -- isn't a proper evaluation of the two players.

Yes, be excited about him, but if Calgary gets offered Dahlin for Parkeh 1:1, it'd probably be smart for them to take it because of the pitfalls of development. You can't just assume he's going to be better than arguably the best young defender in the NHL.

The best young defender in the NHL? When the hell did Dahlin become Makar? You are vastly overrating Dahlin here, he puts up decent offensive numbers and is a career -61. Also Dahlin at 17 was still in junior, I have no idea what you are babbling about him putting up NHL numbers when we were discussing what they did in junior.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

It's not bonkers at all.

How they do it is different, and Enoch is right about calling out some points inflation from playing with McDavid, but if we're looking at production, Parekh topping out as a 60-70 pt D that scores the majority of his points on the powerplay and needs to be sheltered 5-on-5...that's completely in the realm of possibilities.

Based on his junior career and trajectory, there's rightful optimism Parekh amounts to more, but it's not even remotely as bonkers as you're suggesting.

It’s possible, more likely than Parekh being a total bust, but it’s still a bonkers comparison.

Bouchard’s OHL production was 60% of Parekh’s to the same point. Hell, Parekh has already put up more points in 3 years than Bouchard did in 4. Find me another player that people are projecting as a player who was 2/3rds as productive in junior.