2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

It's funny, I've seen fans on here vehemently deny a good NHL comparison for Parekh could be Evan Bouchard.

Obvious flaws and all, turning out like Bouchard would be a good news story for Zayne Parekh and the Flames. The ceiling could obviously be higher, but there is no guarantee his career even amounts to Bouchard's.

Parekh is a far better skater to Bouchard, without a question. Bouchard is terrible defensively for a big part because of his below average foot speed. That alone makes his floor likely higher than Bouchards current performance

[Paulie Walnuts]

Hopefully he’s reading. The last time someone made a stupid decision with him he ended up setting records.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

I’m not talking about how it looks, rather the production.

I think Bouchard has 50 in 62 games this year, so you’re underselling his production a bit.

A 60-70 pt player who can anchor your power play is probably a median outcome for Parekh.

Let’s be clear, Bouchard is a 40-50 pt dman without the glitter twins. He is trending more toward an Erik Gustafson than an elite dman in this league.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

It's funny, I've seen fans on here vehemently deny a good NHL comparison for Parekh could be Evan Bouchard.

Obvious flaws and all, turning out like Bouchard would be a good news story for Zayne Parekh and the Flames. The ceiling could obviously be higher, but there is no guarantee his career even amounts to Bouchard's.

I'll accept the premise that until Parekh plays and succeeds in the NHL he has a higher bust potential than Bouchard, and Bouchard flaws and all is an established and productive NHLer


however their junior stats don't really line up all that well, despite both being picked in the top 10. Parekh in the OHL has scored goals at a rate of 0.494 goals /game (highest for D in OHL history), Bouchard is a little less than half that at 0.242 g/game. Only Ryan Ellis has more points/game in the last 30+ years than Parekh, Bouchard is below the likes of Mews, Del Zotto, Andersson


I don't see their junior production as that similar TBH

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

So you would do that trade any day of the week, but not this week?

LOL. I probably misstated. This team is rebuilding. No need to get a player who doesn't collectively help when they'll eventually move into their competitive window.


If I were a team actually competing for a championship, I'd do the previously stated deal, no question.

[The Cobra]

Make no mistake, Parekh is a spectacular prospect, but he is still a prospect.

Even spectacular prospects bust.

He’s not even rated the top prospect in the league.

He still needs to learn to be better defensively in the NHL, and Dmen take time to establish themselves in the NHL.

Lets not expect too much too soon.

[Jiggy_12]

Dahlin is so good. Parekh would be a tough pill to swallow though. I’d love to have both ideally.

Dahlin will only be 27 when our new building opens

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I would not go after Dahlin. Priority needs to be adding skill up front. That's where any trade capital and cap needs to be applied.
I'm a big fan of taking a run at Marner. He checks all the boxes, except not being a centre. Play driver, tremendous skill, with a two-way game.

Yes please.

I would love to see the Flames take a run at Marner. They have the cap space and he is the right age to offer a 7 year contract to.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Let’s be clear, Bouchard is a 40-50 pt dman without the glitter twins. He is trending more toward an Erik Gustafson than an elite dman in this league.

The Bouchard player comp I've been using for a while is Dennis Wideman.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Major Major

The Bouchard player comp I've been using for a while is Dennis Wideman.

The linesmen better lookout Bouchard can’t even see straight.

[dissentowner]

I'm pretty sure if we ended up drafting McKenna there would be the same crowd saying we need to temper expectations. Either they underestimate or they don't grasp what Parekh has accomplished. Dahlin is a very good D man but at the same age he was not remotely doing what Parekh has. We are talking about a player who's ceiling is not Dahlin, it's generational D man. That isn't to say that's what he will become but the possibility is there and that means there is no chance you trade that player. Parekh hitting his potential ceiling means he is the best player to come out of his draft, Macklin included.

[dino7c]

I feel like we had this convo with Wolf in recent years

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I'm pretty sure if we ended up drafting McKenna there would be the same crowd saying we need to temper expectations. Either they underestimate or they don't grasp what Parekh has accomplished. Dahlin is a very good D man but at the same age he was not remotely doing what Parekh has. We are talking about a player who's ceiling is not Dahlin, it's generational D man. That isn't to say that's what he will become but the possibility is there and that means there is no chance you trade that player. Parekh hitting his potential ceiling means he is the best player to come out of his draft, Macklin included.

I respect your opinion being in Ontario you know parekh.

However dahlin in wj at 17 I remember was awesome . Sweden no not as much press?

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by looooob

I'll accept the premise that until Parekh plays and succeeds in the NHL he has a higher bust potential than Bouchard, and Bouchard flaws and all is an established and productive NHLer


however their junior stats don't really line up all that well, despite both being picked in the top 10. Parekh in the OHL has scored goals at a rate of 0.494 goals /game (highest for D in OHL history), Bouchard is a little less than half that at 0.242 g/game. Only Ryan Ellis has more points/game in the last 30+ years than Parekh, Bouchard is below the likes of Mews, Del Zotto, Andersson


I don't see their junior production as that similar TBH

2nd, to “Tony Mackenzie” ??

Look at this guys stats.. just quits? Wtf?
https://www.quanthockey.com/ohl/en/r...e-leaders.html

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Andrew

I respect your opinion being in Ontario you know parekh.

However dahlin in wj at 17 I remember was awesome . Sweden no not as much press?

As a 17 year old Dahlin had 22 points in 24 games against weaker competition in the Sweden Jr league. As a 17 year old in the OHL Zane Parekh in 66 gp had 33 goals and 96 points. Again, what Parekh is doing is unreal. In my own draft rankings I had him going either 2nd or 3rd. He didn't but in redraft he probably goes in one of those two spots. Especially with the steps he has taken in his own end, he has put the work in. This is a player that we are really lucky fell to us where he did.

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

As a 17 year old Dahlin had 22 points in 24 games against weaker competition in the Sweden Jr league. As a 17 year old in the OHL Zane Parekh in 66 gp had 33 goals and 96 points. Again, what Parekh is doing is unreal. In my own draft rankings I had him going either 2nd or 3rd. He didn't but in redraft he probably goes in one of those two spots. Especially with the steps he has taken in his own end, he has put the work in. This is a player that we are really lucky fell to us where he did.

I hope your right. I get he is gifted offensively. I wouldn't discount 6'5 in nhl. That's all
D is important

[Monahammer]

Cozens already looking pretty damn good in Ottawa. Paulie you should be taking a lap or two already bud.

[CliffFletcher]

If scoring is all that mattered in assessing prospects, the job of an NHL scout would be pretty easy.

Projectability matters. Being 6’5” played a big part in Dahlen going #1 OA and his development into an elite defenceman. Lots of high scoring prospects have had only middling NHL careers because their offence didn’t translate or their play without the puck hurt their effectiveness.

Nobody is questioning that Parekh is extraordinarily talented. The question is how that will translate to the NHL. And we won’t know that until he plays in the NHL.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

As a 17 year old Dahlin had 22 points in 24 games against weaker competition in the Sweden Jr league. As a 17 year old in the OHL Zane Parekh in 66 gp had 33 goals and 96 points. Again, what Parekh is doing is unreal. In my own draft rankings I had him going either 2nd or 3rd. He didn't but in redraft he probably goes in one of those two spots. Especially with the steps he has taken in his own end, he has put the work in. This is a player that we are really lucky fell to us where he did.

Hey, now that you say that, I’m very curious about the Flames draft board? One to 12 what was that order? Any inside info on that?

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

And Dahlin was a consensus #1 OA.

It’s fun to have an exciting prospect. But let’s not go all Oilers fans here and assume Parekh has multiple Norris trophies in the bag.

I like Dahlin but he is not even the best defencemen in his draft class. Not sure the scouts got the consensus right.