2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

That would be a stupid move. Parekh is doing things in junior we have not seen since Bobby Orr. That is a guy you don't move period.

If Parekh turns out to anywhere close to the player Dahlin is, Calgary would be ecstatic.

Now, the age and timeline of Calgary's road to contention is relevant here, but simply based on the player alone, Dahlin has way more trade value than Parekh.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

If Parekh turns out to anywhere close to the player Dahlin is, Calgary would be ecstatic.

Now, the age and timeline of Calgary's road to contention is relevant here, but simply based on the player alone, Dahlin has way more trade value than Parekh.

That's assuming that Parekh's ceiling is Dahlin. I've got news for you: it's higher.

[dino7c]

I don't think some yet grasp what Parekh is doing...he is already a top 3 pick in a redraft.

look at the Flames 3 on 3 record, just improving that has the Flames in a divisional spot and I think he could as early as next season. Heck he could probably help now.

[Stormchaser]

So cool to think that we may have a real star on our hands! I love being excited about these prospects! Kind of the same excitement since Gaudreau / Monahan / Chucky

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I don't think some yet grasp what Parekh is doing...he is already a top 3 pick in a redraft

And Dahlin was a consensus #1 OA.

It’s fun to have an exciting prospect. But let’s not go all Oilers fans here and assume Parekh has multiple Norris trophies in the bag.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

And Dahlin was a consensus #1 OA.

It’s fun to have an exciting prospect. But let’s not go all Oilers fans here and assume Parekh has multiple Norris trophies in the bag.

It's funny, I've seen fans on here vehemently deny a good NHL comparison for Parekh could be Evan Bouchard.

Obvious flaws and all, turning out like Bouchard would be a good news story for Zayne Parekh and the Flames. The ceiling could obviously be higher, but there is no guarantee his career even amounts to Bouchard's.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

If Parekh turns out to anywhere close to the player Dahlin is, Calgary would be ecstatic.

Now, the age and timeline of Calgary's road to contention is relevant here, but simply based on the player alone, Dahlin has way more trade value than Parekh.

Need to also consider the $11M salary as well though. Highest paid defender in the NHL vs full ELC ahead of him.

With Parekh, you still have the ability to go sign another $10M player.

[bluejays]

I would deal Parekh and a 1st for Dahlin any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Only problem is Dahlen is 24. Still young and all but we have little else. It wouldn't make sense with our compete window and needing to build for the draft.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

It's funny, I've seen fans on here vehemently deny a good NHL comparison for Parekh could be Evan Bouchard.

Obvious flaws and all, turning out like Bouchard would be a good news story for Zayne Parekh and the Flames. The ceiling could obviously be higher, but there is no guarantee his career even amounts to Bouchard's.

Bouchard is not a good comparison at all. Yes, he gets points and is a terrible defender (we'll see about Parekh in that regard), but other than both being defensemen, there is little to nothing similar in their games.

Hughes is the perfect example of Parekh's ceiling, based on style of play.

Bouchard is a 40-50 pt, 3rd pairing, lousy defender on any other team but the Oilers. He gets his full 2-minute PPs on that 5-man unit, with no accountability defensively, on that team. He isn't getting that anywhere else.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

It's funny, I've seen fans on here vehemently deny a good NHL comparison for Parekh could be Evan Bouchard.

Obvious flaws and all, turning out like Bouchard would be a good news story for Zayne Parekh and the Flames. The ceiling could obviously be higher, but there is no guarantee his career even amounts to Bouchard's.

I think the main difference between the two is that Parekh is a risk taker, which on occasion, can backfire. Bouchard isn't as much of a risk taker as he is just oblivious sometimes. Parekh also needs to be more aggressive to pressure the opposing player with possession. We'll see how coachable he is when he turns pro. Bouchard on the other hand is a good offensive player, but just has low HQ. No amount of coaching can fix that.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Bouchard is not a good comparison at all. Yes, he gets points and is a terrible defender (we'll see about Parekh in that regard), but other than both being defensemen, there is little to nothing similar in their games.

Hughes is the perfect example of Parekh's ceiling, based on style of play.

Bouchard is a 40-50 pt, 3rd pairing, lousy defender on any other team but the Oilers. He gets his full 2-minute PPs on that 5-man unit, with no accountability defensively, on that team. He isn't getting that anywhere else.

I’m not talking about how it looks, rather the production.

I think Bouchard has 50 in 62 games this year, so you’re underselling his production a bit.

A 60-70 pt player who can anchor your power play is probably a median outcome for Parekh.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

And Dahlin was a consensus #1 OA.

It’s fun to have an exciting prospect. But let’s not go all Oilers fans here and assume Parekh has multiple Norris trophies in the bag.

Neither of Cale Makar and Quinn Hughes went #1 overall either. I think some thought Makar went to high.

Would you trde either of them for Dahlin?

[FanSince'01]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I think the main difference between the two is that Parekh is a risk taker, which on occasion, can backfire. Bouchard isn't as much of a risk taker as he is just oblivious sometimes. Parekh also needs to be more aggressive to pressure the opposing player with possession. We'll see how coachable he is when he turns pro. Bouchard on the other hand is a good offensive player, but just has low HQ. No amount of coaching can fix that.

You've already said it, but I was going to mention too that Parekh's hockey IQ is sky high, which sets him apart from a lot of other similar prospects. The kid is super smart and has very rare on-ice talent and his GAF meter is also pretty high.

I get people wanting to temper expectations because we're Flames fans and s*** always seems to go wrong for us, but this is the best prospect we've had since Johnny or Tkachuk (edit: and Wolfie, but not talking goalies here) and it's not out of the realm of possibility he ends up more impactful than either of them.

It's okay to get excited, people.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

And Dahlin was a consensus #1 OA.

It’s fun to have an exciting prospect. But let’s not go all Oilers fans here and assume Parekh has multiple Norris trophies in the bag.

How did you get from A to B there? Who said he has multiple Norris trophies in the bag?

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Neither of Cale Makar and Quinn Hughes went #1 overall either. I think some thought Makar went to high.

Would you trde either of them for Dahlin?

Makar > Dahlin > Hughes... Makar gets the slight nod because he's won on a good team, but I think if Dahlin had the same opportunity of playing with the quality of players Makar plays with, they'd be very similar.

I've made a couple of edits... but who is this about?
"An electrifying defenseman with ankle-breaking moves, [this player] is ready to show the NHL what he's made of. He's been [compared to] Bobby Orr, but his passing ability and puck control techniques are quite unique for a defender from any era."

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by FanSince'01

You've already said it, but I was going to mention too that Parekh's hockey IQ is sky high, which sets him apart from a lot of other similar prospects. The kid is super smart and has very rare on-ice talent and his GAF meter is also pretty high.

I get people wanting to temper expectations because we're Flames fans and s*** always seems to go wrong for us, but this is the best prospect we've had since Johnny or Tkachuk (edit: and Wolfie, but not talking goalies here) and it's not out of the realm of possibility he ends up more impactful than either of them.

It's okay to get excited, people.

Totally. Get excited. Parekh is a high, high end prospect that I want to succeed so badly... but in comparison of established best-in-the-NHL-young defenders, Parekh doesn't have the same value 1:1... Hopefully, he'll exceed those other guys when he gets to the NHL, but he's not done it yet.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't be excited about him.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

I’m not talking about how it looks, rather the production.

I think Bouchard has 50 in 62 games this year, so you’re underselling his production a bit.

A 60-70 pt player who can anchor your power play is probably a median outcome for Parekh.

He is a 60-70 pt player in the situation he is in, in Edmonton. On any other team, he is probably a 40-50 pt player. Situation matters a LOT - more than most fans realize, IMO.

However, I do agree that a 60-70 pt player is probably the median outcome for Parekh.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by bluejays

I would deal Parekh and a 1st for Dahlin any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Only problem is Dahlen is 24. Still young and all but we have little else. It wouldn't make sense with our compete window and needing to build for the draft.

So you would do that trade any day of the week, but not this week?

[Andrew]

D wins championship. If we have shut down d to complement his skillset. Parekh shortfall can be isolated. Otherwise give me dahlin any day with his size.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

That's assuming that Parekh's ceiling is Dahlin. I've got news for you: it's higher.

I’ve got news for you.

Parekh has much better chance of being lower than Dahlin than better.

Dahlin is proven, Parekh is not.