[Trade] Jankowski traded to Carolina for 2026 5th

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by rollie619

He got 2 last night.

First one was nice (breakaway). Second one... well that's why you go to the garbage areas. Because you're a journeyman vet of 396 games!

https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/car-v.../09/2024021016

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by BigThief

No one knows him as that and thankfully most people over 19 don't care.

My friend is interested in what happened.

[rollie619]

Originally Posted by 1991 Canadian

Yea, very weird draft. 2012 is definitely a good draft to look at when people get a bit too high/low about their teams picks right after a draft.

-None of the top 4 picks has been in the NHL for the last 2 years
-Have some very good defenseman, a couple high end forwards, but is a somewhat weak draft overall
-Produced two of the best goalies of this era in the NHL in Hellebuyck and Vasilevskiy
-A hilariously poor draft for the Oilers with Yakupov, Moroz, Gustaffson (didn't sign), Reinhart (traded a 1st and 2nd for)


All things considered, Jankowski ended up being ok value for the Flames at 21 overall. I'm happy to see him keep a job down elsewhere in the NHL.

That said, I'm very curious who the Flames would've picked at 14. Every player picked from 14 to 21st has had a better NHL career than Jankowski.

I'm also really curious if the Flames truly had Jankowski in mind when they traded down. Was their one of those other picks they thought they could sneak through to 21?

The pointless what-if to me is "what if the Flames drafted Vasilevskiy"? The Giordano as captain era, 80 percent of the Gaudreau era, the Flames didn't have a solid netminder.

Rebuild timing wise, that would've been a perfect pick.

Who's to say Vasilevskiy would've developed on the Flames though. I wanted Oli Matta at the time, but Janko has had a better career so far.

[Bingo]

That's why I think the word bust is thrown around too quickly.

He's forged a great career for a guy that went 2/3 of the way through the first round. Decent pick overall.

Wish they would have spared the "best guy in the draft" crap, but time has healed the shouldn't have taken him at all view.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Shazam

My friend is interested in what happened.

An athlete spoke to an attractive woman at some point and then the two of then had sexual relations. Really mind-blowing stuff, you don't see that type of thing happen normally.

[Steve Bozek]

Originally Posted by Groot

An athlete spoke to an attractive woman at some point and then the two of then had sexual relations. Really mind-blowing stuff, you don't see that type of thing happen normally.

I’m shocked!

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Groot

An athlete spoke to an attractive woman at some point and then the two of then had sexual relations. Really mind-blowing stuff, you don't see that type of thing happen normally.

Oh I see. I knew a chick that went out with a Stampeder for a while. They may have known each other biblically.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by 1991 Canadian

That said, I'm very curious who the Flames would've picked at 14. Every player picked from 14 to 21st has had a better NHL career than Jankowski.

I'm also really curious if the Flames truly had Jankowski in mind when they traded down. Was their one of those other picks they thought they could sneak through to 21?

The pointless what-if to me is "what if the Flames drafted Vasilevskiy"? The Giordano as captain era, 80 percent of the Gaudreau era, the Flames didn't have a solid netminder.

Rebuild timing wise, that would've been a perfect pick.

Yes. That was their plan. Even though he was ranked in the 40s. Apparently they were worried about one other club who was interested in him.

Vasilevsky would have been fine on the Flames. But also Hertl, Teravainen or Wilson would have been nice.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Always wondered who the player was they thought about trading that pick for.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Oh I see. I knew a chick that went out with a Stampeder for a while. They may have known each other biblically.

It was a silly throwaway remark because he married her and I know the Drake family (awesome people) and links him back to Calgary even though he is away. I thought it was mildly to lowly interesting. Carry on please. Sorry.

[rollie619]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Always wondered who the player was they thought about trading that pick for.

Well to be fair I don't know it was Turris. It just seems to match up with the timeline of when they scouted Jankowski and positional needs at the time.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by fotze2

It was a silly throwaway remark because he married her and I know the Drake family (awesome people) and links him back to Calgary even though he is away. I thought it was mildly to lowly interesting. Carry on please. Sorry.

Nothing on Wikipedia about "Drake" on Jankowski's page, you must be a Russian bot.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by devo22

wasn't the rumour that the Flames had Morgan Rielly at 1? Might be wrong though.

Toronto - under Burke - had Rielly at 1. I remember Burke speaking about that somehow.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I think part of the reason why they picked Jankowski was the long-standing need for a #1 C. It was a 'hail mary' of sorts. They did get every scout in the Flames org rotated in to view Jankowski at least once. For me, it was a fascinating pick for so many reasons. It took a long time for Jankowski to develop enough to join the team, and his first season was really, really good. Heck, every single one of his goals in his first season were goal scorer's goals. Second season was better statistically from what I remember, but scored more 'lucky goals' that year. Then the wheels fell off in the third season.


Going from Gulutzan in his rookie year, to Bill Peters in his second year, to Bill Peters/Geoff Ward in his third year - I felt like it was a mistake letting him go after his first disappointing season. However, since then he just hasn't got much traction. He has led the AHL in points not long ago (or was a least very close last time I had checked that year), but just hasn't been a full-season player at any time outside of Calgary. Hopefully he will stick in Carolina. Certainly a great start for him.



I can't help but cheer him on. It wasn't his fault that the Flames picked him where they did, then directly compared him to Joe Nieuwendyk, and then stated he was going to be the best player from the draft. Then he had 3 coaches in 3 years, and left unsigned. Hopefully he does well in Carolina and gets a half-decent retirement deal there or somewhere else.

[CroFlames]

I'm happy that this guy is able to find work in the NHL. I thought he was destined for Europe after all that hyping by Feaster.

Feaster was really bad.

[browna]

First of all, good for Jankowski to stick around. Rosters, team dynamics, management, injuries and a lot of things dictate if bubble players stick around, and he worked hard to keep playing.

Jankowski made this work in spite of the far too high pick and the pressure that came with it.

There was a reason that GM didn't work in any position in hockey for 4 years prior to his slithering his way into the Flames role, and, hasn't been anywhere near a NHL team in the 11+ years since being fired.

One of the Flames ownership groups biggest follies and probably biggest regrets.

[simonsays]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I think part of the reason why they picked Jankowski was the long-standing need for a #1 C. It was a 'hail mary' of sorts. They did get every scout in the Flames org rotated in to view Jankowski at least once. For me, it was a fascinating pick for so many reasons. It took a long time for Jankowski to develop enough to join the team, and his first season was really, really good. Heck, every single one of his goals in his first season were goal scorer's goals. Second season was better statistically from what I remember, but scored more 'lucky goals' that year. Then the wheels fell off in the third season.


Going from Gulutzan in his rookie year, to Bill Peters in his second year, to Bill Peters/Geoff Ward in his third year - I felt like it was a mistake letting him go after his first disappointing season. However, since then he just hasn't got much traction.
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Only quoting part of your very good post. I always felt like Jankowski didn't know how to use the other players on the ice. So many of his first year goals were break to the net / shoot / score. But I feel like when he was a Flame he never used his teammates.


But that said there's something special about anyone who can carve out 400+ NHL games. And he's got nothing but respect from me. Even if I was never a huge fan.



I think part of his longevity is the fact that he just can just drive the puck the whole way up the ice without worrying about his teammates. But when we picked him in the 1st round we had no idea that that was all he could really do offensively.

[rollie619]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Yes. That was their plan. Even though he was ranked in the 40s. Apparently they were worried about one other club who was interested in him.

Vasilevsky would have been fine on the Flames. But also Hertl, Teravainen or Wilson would have been nice.

New Jersey was the other team if I remember correctly.

[Ped]

If true, they grabbed Stefan Matteau instead - 92 games.

[rollie619]

Originally Posted by Ped

If true, they grabbed Stefan Matteau instead - 92 games.

It just goes to show what a crapshoot the NHL Draft can be. It's a testament to Jankowski's work ethic that he made it to 400 games. He gets a lot of flak around here for what he's not. While the green text may have been appropriate for Wisebrod being right, 400 NHL games is nothing to sneeze at.