2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Huberdeau game didn’t need to be broken and rebuilt. Darryl Sutter destroyed him. He was doing all things in Florida he came to Calgary and was used like he was a bum.

If you go back to his interviews when he came here he talked about how playing penalty kill and getting ice time really helped his game. So Darryl decided to play him 14 minutes a game.

And no Marner isn’t playing wing because Toronto is deep at C. He always was a winger.

I said, he can play center but you aren't going to play a top line player down the line up just because. I guess I should just believe you over Craig Berube right??

[Ped]

Word is Marner played some center in junior but not regularly. His dad pushed him for to be listed as a center/wing in his draft year, and in his D+1 year he started at center but struggled and was put back on the wing.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I said, he can play center but you aren't going to play a top line player down the line up just because. I guess I should just believe you over Craig Berube right??

He is a winger. He has never played center. You can check all his scouting reports from junior.

Not sure why you have to make things personal and be disrespectful.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He is a winger. He has never played center. You can check all his scouting reports from junior.

Not sure why you have to make things personal and be disrespectful.

I'm well aware of Marners history. But thank you, I'm citing current interview responses from the current head coach of the Toronto Maple Leafs who believes Marner can play center if needed.

Perhaps the tone you're receiving is due toyour posting behavior and how you're conveying opinions but instead posting as your opinion is factual.

Everyone is wrong except Paulie. And, you're a broken record. Which is annoying. You could have saved everyone a metric ton of wasted energy is you just stuck to your OG post about your thoughts on Dylan Cozens instead of spamming ad nauseum the same post over and over and over.

[Ped]

Well, to be fair, just because Berube believes Marner can play center, doesn't mean he can. He hasn't played center at all in the NHL; you would think if he could, someone would have tried him there, especially when Matthews or Tavares has been unavailable.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

My personal opinion retool rebuild or contending is free agency should be used to fill some holes not try to go after the big fish.

A couple pages back you had a gm just say the biggest mistakes are made on Trade deadline and July 1st.

Nashville is a great example. They won July 1st but they aren’t winning hockey games.

I usually agree but the Flames don't want to build the normal way.

Given this org's plan of some sort of retool but without tanking, and trying to make the playoffs despite knowing they're not really a contender but also trying to get younger but not willing to sell on vets, I think they basically have to find superstars via trades and free agency.

FWIW I think they're going to get shut out in UFA a couple more times, perhaps bottom out and realize against their will oh we do actually have to do this the hard way.

If you play in NYC, you can do a 1 year rebuild and then just sign the best 28 year old on the market. But in Calgary nah

[Pickle Juice]

Now that the dust has settled from the trade deadline.

Who are the top offer sheet candidates this summer the flames could be looking at?

Is there any college free agents the flames could have interest in? Sandman looking for you on the college free agents, any gems in there?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by saillias

I usually agree but the Flames don't want to build the normal way.

Given this org's plan of some sort of retool but without tanking, and trying to make the playoffs despite knowing they're not really a contender but also trying to get younger but not willing to sell on vets, I think they basically have to find superstars via trades and free agency.

FWIW I think they're going to get shut out in UFA a couple more times, perhaps bottom out and realize against their will oh we do actually have to do this the hard way.

If you play in NYC, you can do a 1 year rebuild and then just sign the best 28 year old on the market. But in Calgary nah

That is the path we are most likely headed down. For all the we can’t waste Wolf, well trying to retool is wasting Wolf. Superstars are rarely traded especially the ones we need down the middle.

They tried this approach every year with Iggy and Kipper and face planted outside of 1 year.

Even Carolina trading for a star is finding out that’s it’s hard. They have had a winning team for years who needs stars to take them to the next level and it seems like no one wants to play there.

[traptor]

With Wolf, how theyre deciding to avoid bottoming out, our roster and our prospect pool we pretty much need to be in on every reasonably aged star forward, regardless in they're a winder or center. Marner included.


Wolf is ready to go now and we have no stars forwards in the system.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Pickle Juice

Now that the dust has settled from the trade deadline.

Who are the top offer sheet candidates this summer the flames could be looking at?

Is there any college free agents the flames could have interest in? Sandman looking for you on the college free agents, any gems in there?

Off the top of my head:

6'3" D John Prokop, who I believe attended Flames camp a few years back.

https://www.eliteprospects.com/playe...99/john-prokop

The gem of this year's crop is TJ Hughes, who Reggie Dunlop mentioned in the NCAA Prospects Thread.

https://www.eliteprospects.com/playe...73/t.j.-hughes

Carter King is from Calgary, and is Tacoman's son.

https://www.eliteprospects.com/playe...51/carter-king

Some of the named mentioned at the beginning of the year have regressed statistically. I think this kid attended Flames camp as well:

https://www.eliteprospects.com/playe.../gleb-veremyev


https://www.eliteprospects.com/playe...94/luke-haymes

[Paulie Walnuts]

Wolf isn’t 50. He still has a lot of years ahead of him.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Wolf isn’t 50. He still has a lot of years ahead of him.

Wolf's just about 24. We have a 10 year window with him if he's healthy.

Unless your getting a prospect like Bedard or celebrini it isually takes 3-5 years after drafting them to get into the NHL and make some type of impact.


Maybe we already have a Pastranak in the system and he'll pop out soon. But then it still helps to have signed a Marner.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by traptor

Wolf's just about 24. We have a 10 year window with him if he's healthy.

Unless your getting a prospect like Bedard or celebrini it isually takes 3-5 years after drafting them to get into the NHL and make some type of impact.


Maybe we already have a Pastranak in the system and he'll pop out soon. But then it still helps to have signed a Marner.

McKenna is probably a day 1 player and those goes make an impact right away.

But again it’s still a team with all wingers no elite #1C.

They really screwed it up in 2022 when Johnny and Matthew left. But as you saw in the presser we don’t say the R word in calgary.

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1898757193345671471

[Toast_Man]

Originally Posted by Pickle Juice

Now that the dust has settled from the trade deadline.

Who are the top offer sheet candidates this summer the flames could be looking at?

Is there any college free agents the flames could have interest in? Sandman looking for you on the college free agents, any gems in there?

I'd offer sheet Mavrik Bourque this summer.

[Badgers Nose]

If he can't stay in Toronto he's going somewhere warm where he can play and be left alone. There is zero chance he comes here even if when open the bank for him. California or Florida for example.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

That’s the thing and he’s a winger. How many wingers does this team need. I get that he’s a legit 1st line winger but so was Huberdeau.

Even the talk about Rantanen another winger. Why chase him? He’s even older than Marner.

That could be 3 contracts you are stuck with.

They are better looking to find a reverse Hamilton deal.

8-9 usually.

Edit: damnit, this is the Trade & Spec thread. Closing old tabs on the phone now. This time it’s for sure see you in June.

[Roof-Daddy]

Florida has an ass ton of cap space in the off season and the cap is expected to continue to rise, my bet is Marner ends up there.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Florida has an ass ton of cap space in the off season and the cap is expected to continue to rise, my bet is Marner ends up there.

I'll go with Chicago.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Florida has 17.5M in space. I think Bennett is the only big name they have to sign.

Depends on what Marner wants, does he use Rantanen as a comp?

Also, another sick thought is Toronto targeting Bennett if they lose Marner.